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Sketchy Rumor: iPhone SE 2 Will Debut at WWDC With Classic Design But Larger 4.2-Inch Display

Relentless Power said:
If the casing is changed, then I don’t believe the 3.5 Jack will exist. It’s also a gateway for Apple to encourage the AirPods as well. Which is not to say the 3.5 mm Jack is not appreciated, but the AirPods are an excellent device for a Bluetooth alternative.
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I'd use AirPods even if my iPhone 8 Plus had a headphone jack as I find them so much more convenient.

IMO the dual-goals of the iPhone SE are appeasing Apple customers who prefer the smaller form factor and appeasing Apple beancounters by leveraging existing industrial design and production capacity. As such, I expect the new phone to continue to be called the iPhone SE and to look identical to it's predecessor with an A10 Fusion CPU and iPhone 7-level cameras.
 
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"However, it's certainly possible Apple could trim down the bezels of the new iPhone SE slightly."

Green area overlay corresponds to 4.2 inches, I look forward to it! :)
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That design, though! Arguably, Apple's best iPhone design! I'd like to see that design with a 4.2-inch display! Price is under $599, with updated specs, & Apple would make a killing!
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Except that Samsung has managed to make a waterproof phone with a headphone jack. That's just the line Apple used to sell their anti-consumer move.
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True. It is kind of sad however that ones choice in an eco system depends on a 60 year old 3.5 jack. I missed it for the first 3-4 weeks. I was not big on BT 4.2 sound so I used my dongle. Non issue for me. I'm good with BT 5.0 on my 8+ now with the device I use.

Apple's inability to deliver stable OS Code these days is a far greater thread than the Lightning Port. ;)
 
Relentless Power said:
I’m all for an iPhone SE 2. If it has an upgraded processor, improved display and retaining the 3.5 mm Jack, that’s a homerun. The iPhone SE doesn’t need major improvements, it just needs to be updated for the demographic who prefer the smaller form factor.
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And those who prefer an all-around well-balanced robust design looking at the big picture and not looking at things like a minimalism design contest.

OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Don't understand the SE love. It's like being in love with a Toyota Camry instead of a Porsche 911.
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I'm so continually surprised by comments like these. Do you really not see the differences in prices and the benefits for others with varying priorities who don't prefer a $100k 2-seater for their family of 4 just like they prefer a reasonably-priced phone without certain user-convenience features stripped away unnecessarily? You really can't see that?

Bruce Patterson said:
ugh, why would anyone buy that thing but if they HAVE to, why can't they at LEAST make it the form factor of the 6 series. What's the point in keeping with that 5 series?!
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And why not? What about those who detest the way-too-slippery-out-of-your-hand 6-series.

Bruce Patterson said:
The bands on the top and bottom never made sense to me. If you're going to do that, why include glass for only those small portions? Looks so choppy and aesthetically so much more poor than the x design.
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Well stated about one of Apple's biggest flaws nowadays, both in their software and hardware. That's putting way too much focus on appearance & prettiness instead of on robust, durable, user-friendly features for the one thing we carry around on ourselves even more than perhaps the thoughts in our heads. Glass on the top and bottom, are you serious? :) Are you wearing glass-bottomed shoes, let me ask? If no, then why not? How long do you think those would hold up if you did?
 
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Bruce Patterson said:
ugh, why would anyone buy that thing but if they HAVE to, why can't they at LEAST make it the form factor of the 6 series. What's the point in keeping with that 5 series?!
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The bands on the top and bottom never made sense to me. If you're going to do that, why include glass for only those small portions? Looks so choppy and aesthetically so much more poor than the x design.
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The 6 series is still available, and the design of the 7 and 8 isn't much different. There's really no point in making yet another phone with that formfactor. The SE appeases the smaller phone crowd, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with a completely new design altogether...
 
I’m a little bit hopeful that any update will use the A11 processor instead of the A10 because of the battery throttle issue. They stated publicly that the A11 is superior in this regard.
 
Iconoclysm said:
More like being in love with a Mini Cooper instead of a BMW X5. Except, with the same horsepower.
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That's a great point..

People who dismiss the SE, especially when it was new, really don't understand that it's a complete mini sportscar of a phone. They really overpowered it, rightly so, so it would last. Mine just runs circles around anything I ask it to do thanks to driving that smaller screen with less pixels on plenty of horsepower underneath.
 
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Relentless Power said:
If the casing is changed, then I don’t believe the 3.5 Jack will exist. It’s also a gateway for Apple to encourage the AirPods as well. Which is not to say the 3.5 mm Jack is not appreciated, but the AirPods are an excellent device for a Bluetooth alternative.
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They are also overpriced and are definitely not suited to everyone’s ears..
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
The SE isn't getting the same A11 found in the X and the 8. It also gets a lower end display.
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It also doesn't need the same horsepower - see: your comment about the display..

(which by the way looks great and just fine unless comparing side by side, which nobody does anyhow)
 
Bruce Patterson said:
ugh, why would anyone buy that thing but if they HAVE to, why can't they at LEAST make it the form factor of the 6 series. What's the point in keeping with that 5 series?!
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Not everyone likes a bigger phone.

The only reason my mum got an iPhone SE was because it was one of the only phones I could find at the time which was the size she wanted while having decent spec/support.

If she wanted a 6, I would have bought her a 6.
 
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The SE is at a cross roads, its a small inexpensive phone that lacked the premium features. Does apple increase the size, features (and price)? Do they keep the form factor, and just make it faster?
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Don't understand the SE love. It's like being in love with a Toyota Camry instead of a Porsche 911.
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only form factor I'm interested in...fits in my jeans pocket easily, one handed operation, has all the power I need for what I use the phone for...phone calls, a couple of games, messaging, email check and websites....and I'm not paying for all the latest gizmo's and features I'll never use....have a 2016 SE with 16gb...bought it the day they came out...still have 9.30 gb of free space on it...don't need to want to pay $1000 for phone.

and to the poster directly above...no form factor or features changes needed beyond upgraded internals...keep it simple and cheap...entry level product to appeal to those like me and emerging market buyers where all other iPhones are cost prohibitive...you want the "fancy" features...buy the "fancier" phone.
 
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nathan_reilly said:
man those are beautiful phones
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Remember when people on this site were trashing the design, saying how ugly those back top and bottom bezels were? There were the usual admonitions of "Apple would never do that" and "No one will buy it". It's amusing that now the design is considered beautiful.

IMO, the 8 is the most beautiful phone Apple has designed to day, a more elegant version of the 5c with a seamlessly smooth and unobtrusive look. As much as I loved my SE, its boxiness felt awkward in my hand. The 8 feels much more comfortable. (The 3G still holds up as the most ergonomic, though.)
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Don't understand the SE love. It's like being in love with a Toyota Camry instead of a Porsche 911.
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Did you ever try to go shopping on a Porsche 911? Or on holidays? It's fun to drive but you can't fit anything inside.
A lot of people want a smartphone to be portable. Not something that looks and feels like carrying an iPad inside your pocket. I still have to laugh whenever I see people running with gigantic smartphones strapped to their arms.
 
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