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Sketchy Rumor Says Vision Pro Will Launch in Final Week of January
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You'd probably agree that "insane" is a bit of hyperbole. The AVP costs as much as two bare bones MacBook Pros. For the paradigm shift that it promises (you clearly understand this, it's a productivity device with the 'insane' ability to virtualize multiple massive displays, it's $1500 less than Apple's own $5-6k XDR displays (!) and it's also its own computer), it's very reasonably priced.
As for the "release" date, given that this will be unlike any product Apple has sold and from what we've heard there will be a bespoke customization process to ensure that every customer has the fit and lenses that create the best possible experience, late January may be when they start scheduling appointments.
We aren't going to see people lined up a week in advance to buy one or crowds on "launch day". Assuming they won't be able to produce much more than 500,000 units this year, they will spread these appointments over the course of 2024. As a shareholder and Apple enthusiast, this ongoing PR will be great marketing for the company since the demand for this device will far, far outstrip supply for at least this year.
I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll buy one, but assuming that I'll be able to resell it for at least 2/3 of its value in a year or two without too much hassle (but it's hard to believe I wouldn't love it), I may pull the trigger.
Yes, It's going to be very interesting to see how this evolves over the year.
I really really would love to own a Vision Pro.
what stops me most is knowing it's a 1st gen product (and I have bought other 1st gen Apple product before and very quicky regretted it, when I see the following model) The news of better screens (and other lessons learned from this version one) and what's going to happen after the initial hype stage wears off.
Almost without question people are going to go crazy about it's visual quality and UI polish for quite a few months, and the fun/amazing apps that come out also.
It's the what happens after that which I'm interested to see.
They hype will drop, but how much will it drop, how soon will it drop, and after it does, what is Apple going to do to retain positive news about it whilst working on the next model.
If it's 2 years from a cheaper model, that s a long long time to keep up interest.
Just wish I could go to sleep and wake up in 2 years right away and skip this waiting
That's an excellent point and we don't know yet what version 2 looks like.
Imagine version 2 in two years time is about to come out, with many improvements due to learning how version 1 performed, better screens, faster, better battery and this is perhaps 6 months from now.
And perhaps cheaper than this v1 model also due to lessons in manufacture and supply improvements.
Who would want the old (by then) model at even half it's original price?
Apple's Vision Pro headset will launch in the last week of January, a sketchy online report coming out of China claims.
The information comes from Wall Street Insights, a Chinese investor news service with an unproven track record for Apple rumors. The website claims to have obtained exclusive information suggesting that the Vision Pro will launch on Saturday, January 27 in the United States. While the report clearly says that the launch is set to occur on a date that falls on a Saturday in the United States, there is a chance that the website is actually referring to January 27 in China, which falls on Friday, January 26 in the United States – a much more likely date for the launch of the Vision Pro.
Apple has rarely launched any of its hardware products on Saturdays, so it seems very unlikely that the Vision Pro headset would be the first. The company likely prefers to launch products on weekdays to align with normal business hours, ensuring maximum media coverage and stock market reaction. Friday, January 26 is likely also a more accurate interpretation since Apple overwhelmingly chooses Fridays to launch its new devices.
Apple simply says that the Vision Pro headset will launch "early" this year and has not yet announced any specific time frame for pre-orders and the product's launch. Oft-accurate Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo recently said that he expects the Vision Pro to hit shelves in late January or early February, which effectively lines up with this latest report from China. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, on the other hand, has been firmer in saying that Apple is planning the device's retail launch for February.
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Is this going to be as large as Nintendo´s original Game Boy launch in 1989 ?
It’s always interesting to read the lively discussion here about AVP. It reminds me of the combined hype of the ride hailing apps, self driving cars, and electric vehicle tech that existed in some folks’ imaginations in the early to mid 10s - and still persists to this day despite the evidence.
One version of the hype-driven idea was that in very short order, we would rearrange modern society because of the convergence of these 3 tech innovations. Workers would be free to live hours from their computer-based jobs in new communities, call an Uber which drove itself, powered by a green grid, then, hands-free, enjoy a completely safe, quiet, private ride to work all while sleeping, relaxing, video chatting, or doing whatever they wanted in a private car slash living room on wheels. Who would want this? Didn’t matter, really… the fantasy helped fuel speculation.
The difference between the hype - and the “limitless imagination” - and reality was the sobering actual present capability of the tech. Uber was and is still about exploiting cheap labor and skirting regulation; any serious engineer knew autonomous driving was and is a near impossibility; and while EVs have mostly lived up to their potential, charging networks outside Tesla’s are plagued with issues and instead Uber cars mostly have been shown to increase overall emissions, VMT, and noise and other pollution, rather than somehow make our VMT more efficient.
So, I am interested to see what AVP does in terms of real performance as someone who has always been interested in computing tech. But, as we can all see from the real evidence on the board, often the goal from this region is to simply help investors become wealthier, not to actually develop products that are useful and real. (Theranos, anyone?) And so I’m waiting with interest but skeptical rather than breathless.
One version of the hype-driven idea was that in very short order, we would rearrange modern society because of the convergence of these 3 tech innovations. Workers would be free to live hours from their computer-based jobs in new communities, call an Uber which drove itself, powered by a green grid, then, hands-free, enjoy a completely safe, quiet, private ride to work all while sleeping, relaxing, video chatting, or doing whatever they wanted in a private car slash living room on wheels. Who would want this? Didn’t matter, really… the fantasy helped fuel speculation.
The difference between the hype - and the “limitless imagination” - and reality was the sobering actual present capability of the tech. Uber was and is still about exploiting cheap labor and skirting regulation; any serious engineer knew autonomous driving was and is a near impossibility; and while EVs have mostly lived up to their potential, charging networks outside Tesla’s are plagued with issues and instead Uber cars mostly have been shown to increase overall emissions, VMT, and noise and other pollution, rather than somehow make our VMT more efficient.
So, I am interested to see what AVP does in terms of real performance as someone who has always been interested in computing tech. But, as we can all see from the real evidence on the board, often the goal from this region is to simply help investors become wealthier, not to actually develop products that are useful and real. (Theranos, anyone?) And so I’m waiting with interest but skeptical rather than breathless.
Perhaps it's simply a difference of opinion as opposed to a lack of understanding. Nice video though.
I am looking forward to being able to watch the 360° video I shot of the U2 show at the Sphere in Las Vegas on it. It's up on YT, but right now I only have a cardboard, which sucks. Hoping to someday be able to virtually attend the Masters golf tournament and the Super Bowl on the AVP!
I remember the hype about HDTV. TV was going to go digital and it would open up new possibilities for entertainment. TV's were also going to be flat, and you would be able to hang them on the wall like a painting. This was the late 80s and early 90s, and I couldn't wait to see it happen. Well, I could wait. I did wait. A decade went by before I saw my first HDTV with my own eyes, and they were so expensive, especially the flat ones. Slightly more affordable were the HDTV sets made with good old reliable cathode ray tubes.
Boy, HDTV sure was a bust.
Even more of a bust was the idea of the paperless office. During the 1990s we were promised that with Email and the "Internet", we wouldn't need to use so much paper. But the opposite thing happened! People would receive emails, but reading them on their desktop monitors was just not comfortable, and what if you needed the information when you were away from your desk? Solution: Print out the emails. We were using more paper than ever. The Paperless office was never going to happen in the real world.
Then one day around 2009 I was being given a tour of a metal factory in Hereford, UK, and the man showing me the facility pointed to a multi-story building on their campus. Those were where they used to keep all of the paper records of their sales and accounts and the results of their quality tests. All of it was in the computer now, and they rented space in that building to other companies.
And the HDTV revolution happened as well.
The hype was true. Things just happen when they're ready. And in ways that don't always match the blue sky predictions.
Apple isn't Theranos, by the way. Apple's key to success is delivering products that make their customer's satisfied.
If you're going on record, make a more specific prediction.... Something like: "I predict Apple will stop selling VR/AR products within the next 3 years."
Back then, a shooter in VR would be a quite nauseating experience, because it would be a quick conversion that wasn't really optimized for VR, unlike the much newer HL2 VR port or Half-Life: Alyx. But that's a completely separate issue from eye strain.
The only VR headset that has given me eye strain is the Oculus Go I tried at the store, but that's because it ran at 60Hz, and that is instantly uncomfortable to me.
Besides that, any visual problems I've experienced with VR have been annoyances rather than any kind of strain.
On your own.
And there’s nothing wrong with that. But for me this is the fundamental flaw of this device, yes you can watch films, view 3D photos and have immersive sports but non of these experiences can you share with anyone. And a lot of the time these are all things you do with others.
I think the better analogy is to compare AR/VR headset with 3D television. Neat technology that has been around for longer than TVs existed, but nevertheless never went mainstream.
Also higher resolution video improved something that has already been around for almost a century. An easy sell, once the devices got cheap enough.
I mean, we are on a rumors website for an unreleased product that we have very limited knowledge about. And many of the people describing "fantasy" use cases are responding to people who are basically saying that VR/AR in general is next to worthless as a technology.
I don't think the first Vision Pro on its own has the potential to revolutionize how most people use computers. But I am glad that Apple is releasing a product that many people can get value out of now, instead of just iterating in secret for another decade until they think it's a mass market product. I've personally been getting value out of VR technology for almost 8 years now.
I find it more interesting that people who think VR/AR is a worthless technology have hundreds of posts on a nerdy forum about how anti-social VR tech is or how much it sucks in general. (not throwing shade at you, BTW)
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It's actually amazing what they've done in a $499 computer. Multiple workable monitors. For many types of work, this is all you need. It is way more than proof of concept. It's already fully functional now. Will Apple do it much better for $3500? Absolutely! They can take what's already available and turn it into something magical. No one has the knowledge and resources to do this better...and it's almost here.
Apple hadn't foreseen that they would be attempting to usher in a new era in computing in a year where the biggest, most exciting, most revelatory advancement in computing would be AI-enabled operating systems and apps on existing forms of hardware. I'm not sure what humanity's problems Vision Pro is trying to address; on the contrary, when I think of an operating system that understands what I want to do and can do the actual work for me, I get chills down my spine.
No doubt the reviews of VP will be great - I expect this to be a very polished system with many wow-inducing gimmicks. But having seen what AI can do for humanity, and seeing how incompetent Apple has been with Siri for well over a decade, I'm getting a sense that not only Apple bet on the wrong horse (AR/VR) - it's in the wrong race entirely.
No doubt the reviews of VP will be great - I expect this to be a very polished system with many wow-inducing gimmicks. But having seen what AI can do for humanity, and seeing how incompetent Apple has been with Siri for well over a decade, I'm getting a sense that not only Apple bet on the wrong horse (AR/VR) - it's in the wrong race entirely.
Same. Exactly. Just came home last night with my 15PM so I can take spacial videos of the grandkids when I see them this weekend.
It is somewhat depressing how some of the enthusiasts here are looking forward to taking spatial videos of their family members. I hope they do have enough time left to actually have a conversation or play with the kids/grandkids, not just be a bystander who takes pictures and videos.
My niece somtimes get's really annoyed when the grownups constantly take pictures of her ... and rightly so.
My niece somtimes get's really annoyed when the grownups constantly take pictures of her ... and rightly so.
See the picture from new year's eve in Paris that's doing the rounds. Thousands of people just holding up their phones to record the fireworks, no celebrations, no hugs, nothing.
Exactly. I saw that too. What an eerie atmosphere.
There is one couple kissing in the forground. The guy has his hand up taking a video though. Maybe there is some hope
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Yeah but owning a BMW or Merc back then was also a wow, your rich car. Like really rich.
Now, I know people with average or below incomes who have one.
Vision pro is more powerful, just like a switch to a game boy.
Not the same, in my humble opinion. Keen to see what it does, but being even more couch ridden than my iPhone has made me, is not what I want.
And I know my work ain't using these for a while.
Ps I need a new ipad. Asap.
All the best for the people that can get one and afford one.
It expected to cost close to 5K AUD. I could get 2 Macbook Airs or 1 MacBook Pro and an Air.
Its going to be amazing, I’m sure of it but whats its Headlining App or function.
It will be great after a few years. It’s like the OG Apple Watch again.
Also, it reminds me of this…
It expected to cost close to 5K AUD. I could get 2 Macbook Airs or 1 MacBook Pro and an Air.
Its going to be amazing, I’m sure of it but whats its Headlining App or function.
It will be great after a few years. It’s like the OG Apple Watch again.
Also, it reminds me of this…