Sketchy Video Shows Possible iPhone SE 2 With Glass Back and Headphone Jack

[neoelectronaut]

A shame this isn't real, because of it's real it'd be awesome.

 

[Sevendaymelee]

I bought an SE because I missed the form factor of a smaller iPhone. I had always felt that texting in landscape mode on the 4S was by far the most natural feeling and so, when they said they'd release a small iPhone again, I conjured up mental images of me flying around the keyboard in landscape again like the good old days before our phones morphed into the size of small counties. But after I got it and tried it, I realized that Steve Jobs was right when he chose the 3.5 in design. It's just slightly too large to text in landscape and far too thin to text in portrait mode. In short, it's really only good at slipping into your front pocket and staying out of the way. Other than that, meh...

 

[9081094]

Apple is only putting design and engineering effort into the iPhone X and iPad Pro. So this SE2 rumor make more sense. Apple doesn't have to to do much extra design work, and also a single piece glass back in cheaper that using three pieces.

I guess you’re right. By seeing what’s getting released these past years, there must be only 2 engineers working at Apple. I’ve high hopes for some secretive project they’re working on, if not, there is no other explanation than total mismanagement.

 

[willmtaylor]

I'm not sure why so many people are so insistent the headphone jack will be removed.

1) This would require additional redesign/manufacturing processes
2) As the size and internal layout likely isn't changing there is likely little to nothing to be gained by freeing up that area.
3) Since this isn't top of the line device, Apple doesn't feel the need to push the envelope
4) One key demographic for the SE is the low cost and less developed demo. An area where keeping the headphone jack might make sense. Sorta like how Apple continued selling 1 variant of macbook with an optical drive for so many years.

All that being said, I could still see Apple removing it, but due to the above reasons I'd put it much closer to 50/50.

That all seems fair, but I’m not sure point 2) is a done deal. I think it’s a relatively reasonable assumption but not 100%.

 

[giggles]

Apple offers some “just in case anybody is still into that” products with longer cycles (macmini, mbp 13” 2012 for a long time, ipod classic for a long time, etc.), I wouldn’t be surprised if the SE is seen as “just in case somebody needs a small phone and/or headphone jack” (I think there are a number of specialized accessories that work thru the headphone jack? including for accessibility?). So it could totally have the headphone jack. And the premium feel of the taptic engine vibration would still be unavailable on the lowest end iphone..

 

[9081094]

A shame this isn't real, because of it's real it'd be awesome.

You’re really satisfied with the thick bezels and small screen? I can understand some would prefer the smaller form factor but not giving it all screen really makes it look... well the same as 6 years ago. In other words: dated.

 

[mudflap]

This could be real. Apple's team nowadays is so complacent and expedient, they wouldn't shy from reiterating a 6 year old design.

I love that design. I think it's beautiful. Smart phone designs don't have to change every year. I think of iPhones like Porchses — you don't mess with a classic design like the 911 so why would you mess with the classic design of the iPhone 4?

 

[44267547]

I'm not sure why so many people are so insistent the headphone jack will be removed..

Its been stated many times, Apple‘s views don’t share retaining the 3.5 mm Jack anymore. They made that clear, actually multiple executives have commented how the 3.5 mm Jack is antiquated technology and it’s time to move on from that. Also, retaining the 3.5 mm Jack will would be a horrible business practice if one phone retained it and the other iPhones no longer supported it, which would send mixed messages based on Apples own statements and viewpoints. Apple would likely want consistency across their iPhone lineup. I truly believe the 3.5 mm Jack will not be consideration for any future iPhone models since the iPhone 7. If the SE is updated, it will will not keep the headphone jack,

1) This would require additional redesign/manufacturing processes
2) As the size and internal layout likely isn't changing there is likely little to nothing to be gained by freeing up that area.
3) Since this isn't top of the line device, Apple doesn't feel the need to push the envelope
4) One key demographic for the SE is the low cost and less developed demo. An area where keeping the headphone jack might make sense. Sorta like how Apple continued selling 1 variant of macbook with an optical drive for so many years.

And:

5.) Considering there is absolutely zero guarantee there will be an iPhone SE 2 at all, given all these rumors really mean nothing in the sense of mudslinging and throwing whatever sticks, and I believe we won’t see an iPhone SE refresh it all in 2018 (Also according to Kuo). And certainly not during the fall, when Apple is about to introduce three new iPhones and they won’t let an SE take away from the limelight.

 

[spazzcat]

AirPods are awesome, as long as you don't mind the idea that when you buy AirPods, you are subscribing to listening.

Much like a subscription, they have a pretty fixed life-span of around ~2-3years until the battery packs in.

At which point you have to decide - do I resubscribe to the listening experience I've become accustomed to (for another $169 or whatever it is).

I don't want to subscribe to listening. My 3.5mm jack works fine. The cable never bothered me. A new set of apple earphones costs £8. I could buy dozens of pairs for the price of AirPods.

You know you can buy BT headphones that cost about $10 right? They will be the same quality as the free wired ones Apple gives.

 

[9081094]

Except the boring huge bezel outdated front, everything else looks awesome

The front looks like an old crt monitor compared to an oled tv panel to me. But hey, some like retro design.

 

[H818H]

You know you can buy BT headphones that cost about $10 right? They will be the same quality as the free wired ones Apple gives.

No, they will sound worse - all wirelessly transmitted audio will sound worse than a wired connection to the same headphones/speakers.

And I'll have to remember charge them up.

And they're disposable - in the bin in a few years.

And they're not ideal for any pro usage - audio or video production - too much latency, so what, I carry a second wired pair sometimes?

And I'll have to go through an irritating pairing/switching process every time I move between iPhone/laptop/imac, rather than just unplugging and replugging, never removing the headphones from my head.

Anyway - glad you seem to like bluetooth. Why don't you want me to have the choice to use wired?

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

No more leaks, please!

I think you may be on the wrong forum . . . this is MacRumors . . . the clue is in the name.
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I want the same size as my SE but a larger screen. If it’s just a processor bump and wireless charging then I guess I’ll be holding off of my purchase for another year.

Hate it all you want ya’ll but you have to know that eventually every iPhone model will get the “notch” treatment. I just wish for the SE to do it now not next year.

Defintely agree on full screen (although reports suggest it's now unlikely sadly) - could do without a notch though, not a fan.

 

[dwaltwhit]

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[H818H]

I have had mine since I got my 7 and it has not been lost or damaged.

What do you do when you switch from listening to your phone to a laptop/imac?

Do you leave the dongle hanging from your $800-1000 phone, blocking the charging port?

Or do you take it out altogether, put it somewhere safe until you want to switch back, retrieve it and re-connect it at both ends? If so, you're a more organised, methodical person than me.

I think most people would struggle with the latter. That little cable seems fragile, likely to disconnect when removing from pockets, expensive.....

No-one can really view the dongle as a viable alternative from the company where "things just work".

They want you to buy AirPods, and the dongle is a clever little nudge in that direction.

That's not to say a few exceptional people like yourself can't make it work, but it's a compromise and a downgrade in both functionality and usability not to include a 3.5mm jack.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Looks like a fake/clone to me due to the Apple logo being too big

 

[themoose]

I don't entirely disagree. For me this is also the ideal handset size and form factor. But to leave it unchanged to such a degree after 6 years, from a company with virtually unlimited budget and innovation potential, is f--ing lazy to a fault. Give it a full-front display at least, and it will sell out like Coachella early bird tickets.

a full front display like the X? so that would make it the iPhone SE X? i would actually like to see that (an SE sized full screen display). maybe in a wider form factor to have the aspect ratio (possibly even overall viewable area?) consistent with the plus screens.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Y'all dumb. This is a custom housing for the 5S/SE. I've seen the exact same on Instagram. Chinese people are so bored. Plus, this has the headphones jack, the real one would not.

Can you link to some of the instagrams?
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To some of us it isn’t outdated.

Well said..
I find the SE design language to be timeless, elegant and frankly just "better" than what they've put out of late.

It's so comfortable to securely and comfortably hold and use.

 

[SeattleMoose]

Replacing my 4S next month. If the SE 2 retains the headphone jack (and home button), I'm in. If not, gonna get the "old" SE before they run out. Please Apple!!! Don't jack us around!!! Keep the jack!!!

Apples sometimes overshoots its own product perfection for the sake of change...

Sad how everyone who hates the headphone jack and overall form factor would turn the SE into the 7/8/10. You can call me a "luddite" all you want but I know what I like and I don't like the new phones/phablets. Besides, having choices keeps the product line more diverse.

 

[Fixey]

Just a replacement case for the SE or 5s, what’s the big deal why waste space on the website showing it, Samsung still the gold standard time Apple do something about it and release a edge to edge screen quick, iPhones are looking dated, retro looking

 

[ktecac]

I own an iPhone SE for the small size, not the cost. I own AirPods but I usually only use them at work cause I also own some Shure in-ear monitors.

Just to confirm Airpods can only work with SE via Bluetooth right?

I hate bluetooth - if I'm going to buy wireless headphones I'm not going to be doing it that way.
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AirPods are awesome, as long as you don't mind the idea that when you buy AirPods, you are subscribing to listening.

Much like a subscription, they have a pretty fixed life-span of around ~2-3years until the battery packs in.

At which point you have to decide - do I resubscribe to the listening experience I've become accustomed to (for another $169 or whatever it is).

I don't want to subscribe to listening. My 3.5mm jack works fine. The cable never bothered me. A new set of apple earphones costs £8. I could buy dozens of pairs for the price of AirPods.

Good to know. I'm counting on the price going down a bit or the convenience of them being worth it - there's still the back up of the wired headphones if it isn't.

 

[zed1291]

Just to confirm Airpods can only work with SE via Bluetooth right?

I hate bluetooth - if I'm going to buy wireless headphones I'm not going to be doing it that way.
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This question doesn't even make sense. The model iPhone one is using has absolutely nothing to do with the fact AirPods are Bluetooth headphones.

 

[smorrissey]

3.5mm headphone jack FTW!

 

[rafark]

This could be real. Apple's team nowadays is so complacent and expedient, they wouldn't shy from reiterating a 6 year old design.

A design so perfect like this one is timeless.

 

[EugW]

I own an iPhone SE for the small size, not the cost. I own AirPods but I usually only use them at work cause I also own some Shure in-ear monitors.

Losing the headphone jack is still something I don't want to deal with even though I know I can use the included adapter. Why? Because from personal experience of also owning an 8 & a X two separate times (three no-jack iPhones) I've lost the converter all three times within a 2 week window. The converter is not able to stay on the headphones the entire time because I use my headphones with multiple devices (many of which don't have lighting jacks).

Also, I cycle as my main mode of transportation. To & from work alone is 20miles but I often ride other places before/after work. Tracking my biking uses the battery excessively so I usually have a battery pack for charging my iPhone. I can't charge and listen to music with my wired headphones without another losable adapter (no good).

I couldn't care less about water resistance. I am almost never in a situation where I wanted it & I've had water damage on zero of the iPhones I've owned [since iPhone 3G].

If iPhone SE 2 has a headphone jack, I'll be getting it day 1. I don't care if it's an iPhone 8 with 4" screen, exact form factor of SE with updated internals, or something totally different. I'd even tolerate iOS 11 for the updated cameras & speed.

If there's no headphone jack then I'm at least waiting until iOS 12 and hopefully some of the white space and terribly large text is removed from the first party apps. I will not be buying a new phone with subjectively worse hardware and software on it than I have in my current iPhone SE (iOS 10.3.3).

I still have my original Lightning to headphone jack adapter from 2016, using my Uncourage:

 

[janitor3]

Nice design, pity they will not be a headphone jack on the SE2..