The people just want its specs upgraded and not a re-design.
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Sketchy Video Shows Possible iPhone SE 2 With Glass Back and Headphone Jack
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The iPhone SE is gorgeous and nothing needs to change aesthetically. Put in a new CPU, add 3D touch, maybe a better camera, and some other gizmos and whatsits and we're good to go for a another few years.
If you are pro, you are not using the free headphones anyways. And no one said you can't use wired headphone, but in terms of the iPhone, Apple isn't going to add a jack back to the phone.
There is no science to back this up. Audio quality will always depend upon the original recording and the quality of the channel. There is nothing inherently better about a wired connection.
For a really mixed message, it should have a 1/4" headphone jack.
I never dreamed the company made popular by the iPod would try and kill the universal standard for wired consumer audio, all for the sake of a cash grab.
When the iPhone 3,4,5,6 were on sale, I never wanted to stop people using bluetooth audio - why do you want to stop me using wired?
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Man, if apple goes with that same design it means the end is near. There's nothing new to do with phones. When that happens - people start keeping their phones 2, 3, 4 years or longer. I was a 'new phone every year' guy and am keeping my current phone at least two years.
Let's do the math. What happens when everyone goes from once a year to twice a year? Revenue is cut in half. This is the extreme and won't happen but it is good drama.
Let's do the math. What happens when everyone goes from once a year to twice a year? Revenue is cut in half. This is the extreme and won't happen but it is good drama.
1) I am a "pro" and I use those cheap headphones all-day-long.
I'm not mixing or mastering so quality is not important - but reliability and latency are important. I don't want headphones that if I forget to charge them I can't do my job.
2) You have to use a dongle. This is a downgrade in functionality and usability and merely a gesture from apple. It's a further nudge towards AirPods by offering a sub-par user experience. Dongle is easily lost, expensive, fragile, disconnects easily when removing from pocket.
3) Want a bet? If Apple removed the screen, and enough people didn't buy/compained, they'd add it back. Also, no developing country (where people don't have huge disposable incomes) will fall for AirPods. They'll want cheap, reliable, long-lasting wired headphones and Apple knows it.
And they must be horrible. Were you the one who predicted that Apple would never make another small SE sized iPhone because no one wants it, that size is on its way out?
Apple is going the same route as with their computers if that’s being the case... we all know how that ends up.
You're wrong. Don't spread misinformation.
Bluetooth headphones generally support a maximum of 768 kbps while standard wired headphones can handle up to 2,304 kbps, if not higher.
Using identical speakers & preamps, a wired connection is inherently better sounding than wireless, not to mention more reliable.
Why don't you want iPhones to have headphone jacks?
I don't want to stop you using wireless
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The iPhone SE doesn't come with Lightning headphones. No iPhone that has a 3.5mm jack does. And since you didn't specify which model you have, and are posting in the "iPhone SE" thread. . . .
Many do like the older design better. Include me in that group. Yes Apple has tons of dough, but the SE is the budget phone. Apple is not going to spend money innovating a phone they sell for $350. If you want new design and innovation on the guts Apple will have you paying for it. That neighborhood is around $1000. Apple won't design and build a phone at a cost of $300 and sell it for $350. It is not lazy, it is business. While my costs for a new design may be off, my point is Apple doesn't spend money without their usual rate of return.
Please educate me - why did they remove the headphone jack if not to boost sales of AirPods?
Making more money off iPhone users was the primary motivation for removing the jack - the 3.5mm jack makes them no money.
Whereas...wireless audio gets them AirPod "subscribers" - people who drop $160 every 2-3 years, forever.
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The design isn't outdated.
That's kind of what I was getting at. As long as the casing is essentially the same, by all means, make the thing full screen, do the fancy glass lamination, give it Face ID, make it OLED... As long as I can stick it in my Dodger Blue Spigen Slim Armor S, I'm good.
Nope. Wasn’t me. My wife has an SE and absolutely loves it. I can definitely see the appeal for non-tablet-sized smartphones.
Also, I have no idea as to the quality of cheap BT headphones’ quality, but their quality isn’t the point. The point is that they’re cheap.
I don't fully understand the request for the jack. I understand, that people have their favourite headphones that they want to keep using and these headphones already have a long cable. I know that adapters are usually annoying but in this case, does it really matter that your cable becomes 3 inches longer if you use something like this?
oh and then there is the argument: I want to charge and listen to music at the same time, well you still can do if you use lightning for audio and wireless charging for ... charging ...
Sooner or later the jack will die, so did serial ports on computers and wheels without tires...
The Razr flip phone was also a timeless design, that doesn't mean it's still relevant.
All Apple needs to do is add a full-front laminated display, keep the rest and it will sell like crazy.
Or here's another idea: why not use the body of an iPod touch, whose value prop right now is debatable? It's slim, svelte and arguably just as timeless a design.
Not to mention you have to charge them every few hours (BT)
Indeed, I also don't get why the audiojack haters see things so black and white. When did choice become a bad thing?
3.5mm jack is a beautifully designed universal standard, found on all kinds of devices worldwide.I don't fully understand the request for the jack. I understand, that people have their favourite headphones that they want to keep using and these headphones already have a long cable. I know that adapters are usually annoying but in this case, does it really matter that your cable becomes 3 inches longer if you use something like this?
oh and then there is the argument: I want to charge and listen to music at the same time, well you still can do if you use lightning for audio and wireless charging for ... charging ...
Sooner or later the jack will die, so did serial ports on computers and wheels without tires...
The provided dongle is absolutely no solution - what happens when you switch headphones from phone to laptop say....do you leave the dongle hanging from your $1000 phone? Or do you put it in your pocket until you can lose it?
It’s a total joke to think anybody can consider that dongle a viaible alternative to a 3.5mm jack. It’s a ******** gesture from Apple. The experience using a dongle is designed to further ‘encourage’ people to upgrade to their expensive, disposable Airpods.
No one is satisfied with using a dongle to use 3.5mm headphones.
If you have Airpods and like them, i’m pleased for you.
I don’t deny you your Airpods - don’t deny me my headphone jack.
Good design doesn’t get old. Or should we start redesigning how speakers work because the tech is hundreds of years old? Or wheels?
No one alive can justify the removal of that headphone jack for anything other than profit
Yep. I really don't get all those defending Apple's "courage" (with some pretty smug comments to boot) taking away a feature that provides cheap, simple, reliable, better sounding, and universal device-agnostic connectivity. You'd think it's all part of a grand future master plan, only to find out it's just Cook wanting to sell more AirPods and Beats X.
POV anecdotes:
1) At the time I'm using 2 iPhones, 2 MacBook Pros, 1 iPad and 1 iMac. I'd have to unpair and re-pair whenever I need to switch audio sources. It's stupid, unnecessary and time consuming as a user.
2) I LOVE my wireless JBL's for gym & running, and wouldn't go back to corded microphonic hell. That being said, when I switch to my trusty Shure SE846 I hear a world of difference, even if the input device is merely a phone. BT convenience? Yes. Sound quality? Still a long way to go.
3) Having to charge yet another thing? No thanks.