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Probably this guy bj is getting paid by someone. I have never seen someone so desperately persistent in trying to convince the others in his beliefs. Or is someone who is trying to increase his post count number. He basically steals every discussion about future MacBook and the discussion starts revolving around him instead of the subject.

Exactly, happy to listen and chat to others about different ideas, that's why I'm here. But every time I browse a thread about the future rMB, there's BJ riding skylake into the ground and singing the praises of Broadwell and trying to discredit anyone who thinks otherwise.
That's called a fanatic. It's boring and tiring and I'd rather listen to people who have views and opinions on what we might like to see or what Intel and Apple might be up to, just trying to shut down the discussion is sad.
 
Exactly, happy to listen and chat to others about different ideas, that's why I'm here. But every time I browse a thread about the future rMB, there's BJ riding skylake into the ground and singing the praises of Broadwell and trying to discredit anyone who thinks otherwise.
Click profile name > Ignore

Some posts are going to look a bit odd like someone is arguing with himself but it's going to be worth it in the long term.
 
Isn't this a forum where to talk about what we expect to see and what we'd like to see?

Yes, and it's also a forum to debate which features do/don't make sense.

You won't stop banging on about 'Skylake offers nothing, buy now'. It's irritating. I'm sure the current iteration is great, and if you can get a good deal then sure, buy one, but I along with others am quite happy to wait.

What's equally irritating are hearing the same wishes and dreams from posters that simply aren't realistic or necessary, it's like they think Jonny Ive reads this forum and their repeated whining is going to make a difference. It's one thing to want Skylake for an incremental bump in performance, of course, why not? But it's quite another when you hear people wanting what is basically the MacBook Pro featureset in the RMB form factor for MacBook Air prices. "Yes Mr. BMW, I'd like all the space of the X5 SUV in the form factor of the M2 two-door and I'd like that for $299 with $0 down and 0% financing please!" It's hysterical.

I'm not an Apple fanboy by any means, I judge each product on its merits and right now I really like their phones and laptops. I built my own Skylake gaming rig (6700k, GTX 970) and I'm looking for a portable, nice laptop for when I'm out and about working - but I'm not in any rush for it. The Dell XPS 13 is a nice choice but I'd like to go back to Mac, btw the Dells have had Skylake for a few months now.

My co-workers who didn't want the hassle of Boot Camp chose the XPS13 over the RMB and they regret it every time we sit in the same conference room and open our notebooks. I don't sit there and say 'wow, you have Skylake'. They sit there and say 'boy, your notebook is so thin and light and cool looking, and I can't believe that retina display'.

BJ
 
Click profile name > Ignore

Some posts are going to look a bit odd like someone is arguing with himself but it's going to be worth it in the long term.

Simple yet great idea. Thanks for that :)

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He's just a guy holding onto his dear investment with a tight grip praying apple won't make his shiny macbook obsolete. Everyone knows Skylake update is going to happen, just a matter of time. My brand new Razer blade stealth has TB3. Shame its 2011 technology, I kind of like it.
 
He's just a guy holding onto his dear investment with a tight grip praying apple won't make his shiny macbook obsolete. Everyone knows Skylake update is going to happen, just a matter of time. My brand new Razer blade stealth has TB3. Shame its 2011 technology, I kind of like it.

You can stop acting as if you know me as soon as you like. If Apple releases a new version of the MacBook that truly is improved in a manner in which it markedly improves my workflow I'll buy it on Day #1, sell my current RMB on Craigslist, and move on. My argument in this thread is not about the money. I could care less if I lose $500 in a year. What it's about is an understanding of what the RMB is supposed to be and how Skylake doesn't tic enough boxes to make it worthwhile.

Also, the news that's breaking out of the Apple financial announcements yesterday should close this thread anyway. Word is the Pro and the Air will receive major updates in June. With the RMB really only being 6 months old from a supply-chain standpoint, I do not see Apple touching the RMB in any manner, the Pro and the Air launches will tie up suppliers, producers, materials, in-store transitions, and on and on.

BJ
 
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I'm intrigued, how is it you know so much better than anyone else what the RMB is supposed to be? I have a feeling when they designed it they didn't have anti osx pro windows users in mind for the average buyer. Yet, here you are telling everyone how wrong they are.
 
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I'm intrigued, how is it you know so much better than anyone else what the RMB is supposed to be? I have a feeling when they designed it they didn't have anti osx pro windows users in mind for the average buyer. Yet, here you are telling everyone how wrong they are.

Because I'm it's target market, myself and a handful of others all fit the profile from an age/career/travel/demographic standpoint and we're all thrilled because we understand what the RMB is for. Nothing to do with operating systems, by the way, they don't matter anymore, it's merely personal preference for things that are at their best when you don't know they're there.

Thoroughly read the Apple website. Watch the Jonny Ive video. Watch the Keynote. Understand that Apple didn't start with a MacBook Pro and rip stuff out until they made it as thin as possible; instead they started with an iPad Air and added as little as possible to make it into a real notebook with a real keyboard for busy executives. People love their iPad's. They don't connect to anything. No monitors, no SD cards, no USB, no HDMI, no nothing. We love them for email and reading PDF's and browsing while traveling but could only use them for larger executive work if only they had full-sized keyboards, a mouse, and true multi-window multitasking. The RMB? Exactly that. iPad on steroids. The first iOS device disguised as a notebook.

None of you are 'wrong' by the way. Wanting Skylake, wanting more ports, that's all fair to request. And when the Air and the Pro slim down in June you'll be very happy. With the RMB you're barking up the wrong tree because you don't understand what it's supposed to be. Go read the Apple website, go watch the Ive video, go watch the keynote.

BJ
 
Because I'm it's target market, myself and a handful of others all fit the profile from an age/career/travel/demographic standpoint and we're all thrilled because we understand what the RMB is for. Nothing to do with operating systems, by the way, they don't matter anymore, it's merely personal preference for things that are at their best when you don't know they're there.

Thoroughly read the Apple website. Watch the Jonny Ive video. Watch the Keynote. Understand that Apple didn't start with a MacBook Pro and rip stuff out until they made it as thin as possible; instead they started with an iPad Air and added as little as possible to make it into a real notebook with a real keyboard for busy executives. People love their iPad's. They don't connect to anything. No monitors, no SD cards, no USB, no HDMI, no nothing. We love them for email and reading PDF's and browsing while traveling but could only use them for larger executive work if only they had full-sized keyboards, a mouse, and true multi-window multitasking. The RMB? Exactly that. iPad on steroids. The first iOS device disguised as a notebook.

None of you are 'wrong' by the way. Wanting Skylake, wanting more ports, that's all fair to request. And when the Air and the Pro slim down in June you'll be very happy. With the RMB you're barking up the wrong tree because you don't understand what it's supposed to be. Go read the Apple website, go watch the Ive video, go watch the keynote.

BJ

I'd say that you're at the edge of the target market. You use your MacBook exclusively to run Windows, which is atypical. Not that Apple minds selling computers to people like you who only want to run other operating systems, but the rMB is primarily aimed at Mac users - folks who use OS X and Mac apps - as well as potential switchers. That's why the rMB page on Apple's website calls attention to OS X and bundled software.

You're correct in saying that the rMB isn't intended to replace higher-end laptops, and it's a great choice for those of us who want something more than an iPad Air or iPad Pro. But I take issue with your contention that you're in a better position to say what Apple will do with the rMB, including your claim that they won't even update to Skylake in the near term. I suspect that many people here have more experience with Apple products than you, having witnessed multiple upgrade cycles over many years. It's not your prediction that bothers us, it's your certitude that you understand Apple better than we do that does.
 
I'd say that you're at the edge of the target market. You use your MacBook exclusively to run Windows, which is atypical. Not that Apple minds selling computers to people like you who only want to run other operating systems, but the rMB is primarily aimed at Mac users - folks who use OS X and Mac apps - as well as potential switchers. That's why the rMB page on Apple's website calls attention to OS X and bundled software.

The days of the operating system wars are long, long over. And history shows us that people simply don't care about them. 92% of the world runs Windows, and about 60% of them run Windows XP or Windows 7, about a decade old. And most Windows owners own multiple iOS devices, about as foreign to Windows as it gets for about a day and then you learn how to use it and move on. My wife bounces between Windows and OSX every few years when she gets a new notebook from work, sometimes they're into Dell, sometimes Apple, and it doesn't matter to her as long as she can launch Outlook and Excel and Powerpoint and Skype. An OS is just something to launch apps and get out of the way. The only people who seem to care about operating systems are Mac people and I think it's simply due to feeling like the underdog.

You're correct in saying that the rMB isn't intended to replace higher-end laptops, and it's a great choice for those of us who want something more than an iPad Air or iPad Pro. But I take issue with your contention that you're in a better position to say what Apple will do with the rMB, including your claim that they won't even update to Skylake in the near term. I suspect that many people here have more experience with Apple products than you, having witnessed multiple upgrade cycles over many years. It's not your prediction that bothers us, it's your certitude that you understand Apple better than we do that does.

Understand this please- Steve Jobs himself pitched my corporation and my division on carrying his products and setting up an Apple shop in our stores, to convince us he outfitted us with Macintosh computers, and I learned how to operate a computer on one of those Macs back in 1986. I didn't engage with a MS device until my company switched to IBM desktops in 1992. Since then, between my wife and kids I've purchased 2 MacBook's, 3 MacBook Air's, 1 MacBook Pro, 2 iMac's, and on the iOS side I've owned every iPhone and iPad and Apple TV ever made on Day 1 of its release, being one of those zealots who waited on line at 3AM to get the iPhone 3G and at noon to get the original iPad.

So while I'm a Windows user, I believe I probably have purchased, owned, and used more Apple devices than almost anyone here. There shouldn't be some assumption that because I run Windows on the RMB that I'm somehow a misfit and less qualified to offer opinions on Apple products. And my contention is simply that Apple isn't in the computer business any more, they make phones and tablets and streamers and wristwatches and manage music stores and app stores and retail stores and the days of quick notebook updates are well behind us. If Skylake were some fantastic leap forward, I might be more inclined to think it is happening. Apple has bigger priorities than to release a fractional update to what might be its most niche product.

BJ
 
I'd say that you're at the edge of the target market. You use your MacBook exclusively to run Windows, which is atypical. Not that Apple minds selling computers to people like you who only want to run other operating systems, but the rMB is primarily aimed at Mac users - folks who use OS X and Mac apps - as well as potential switchers. That's why the rMB page on Apple's website calls attention to OS X and bundled software.

You're correct in saying that the rMB isn't intended to replace higher-end laptops, and it's a great choice for those of us who want something more than an iPad Air or iPad Pro. But I take issue with your contention that you're in a better position to say what Apple will do with the rMB, including your claim that they won't even update to Skylake in the near term. I suspect that many people here have more experience with Apple products than you, having witnessed multiple upgrade cycles over many years. It's not your prediction that bothers us, it's your certitude that you understand Apple better than we do that does.
it's pointless to argue with a broken gramophone plate. As you see, his answer is carefully crafted and may branch the discussion in so many ways that the original topic of the thread will sink in the sands of madness. That someone claims they have owned a great deal of apple stuff does not give more weight to their opinion. I may claim my boss has bought me a 200 sq. m. house - prove that I lie!

So, I have a question, please. I am not gonna read the 20-something pages of discussions between bj and his respondends but I would like to ask straightaway:

Is it right that SkyLake will bring to the rMB:
~20% more processor productivity
~40% better graphics
~better battery life

Even if these numbers are not quite correct, I'd rather a skylake laptop simply because it's new, and broadwell is old. If we talked desktops with dedicated gpu, the skylake improvements will be marginal and unworthy to wait for. But the claim skylake will bring marginal improvements to laptops is just... laughable
 
Is it right that SkyLake will bring to the rMB:
~20% more processor productivity
~40% better graphics
~better battery life

Even if these numbers are not quite correct, I'd rather a skylake laptop simply because it's new, and broadwell is old. If we talked desktops with dedicated gpu, the skylake improvements will be marginal and unworthy to wait for. But the claim skylake will bring marginal improvements to laptops is just... laughable

From what I've read, Skylake will bring those numbers, however these numbers are to be taken with a pinch of salt, as apart from maybe the battery life test, to achieve the better CPU/GPU performance, the tests were conducted using synthetic benchmarks, which aren't completely representative of day to day usage. (The battery test IMO is a real life scenario, because, and don't quote me on this, the tests were conducted by Intel in regards to running a 720p film, and the skylake model achieved an extra hour to hour and a half battery life, ceteris paribus).

Therefore, IMO, I wouldn't buy a Brand New MacBook now, however, there are some really good deals on eBay/craigslist - I myself picked up an almost brand new base rMB with 11 months appleCare for less than half the retail price.

If you can hold out, then definitely wait for Skylake, I was actually going to buy another 1.2 model that I found on gumtree, but a user on here convinced me that Skylake is indeed worth waiting for.

The one little tidbit I will add is (and don't take this as Gospel), is that the Skylake/Kaby Lake update (depending on when Apple upgrade the MacBook in 2016), should see a 2nd port added, firstly due to the fact that TB3/USB C are now a universal connection, albeit with Alpine Ridge (which Apple should be able to squeeze in now due to the fact the Skylake Logic board is quite a bit smaller than the Broadwell Logic board). Secondly, if you look at HP's Core M Laptop, it too comes with 2 USB-C ports and a headphone jack, and finally, the original MBA shipped with one USB port, whereas the mk ii had two, therefore if History is anything to go by, we could see two USB-C ports soon.
 
The one little tidbit I will add is (and don't take this as Gospel), is that the Skylake/Kaby Lake update (depending on when Apple upgrade the MacBook in 2016), should see a 2nd port added, firstly due to the fact that TB3/USB C are now a universal connection, albeit with Alpine Ridge (which Apple should be able to squeeze in now due to the fact the Skylake Logic board is quite a bit smaller than the Broadwell Logic board). Secondly, if you look at HP's Core M Laptop, it too comes with 2 USB-C ports and a headphone jack, and finally, the original MBA shipped with one USB port, whereas the mk ii had two, therefore if History is anything to go by, we could see two USB-C ports soon.

Apple has a line of notebooks that are very close in price and design and are confusing for consumers in their retail stores. Differentiation is key, and things like processors and ports are easy for consumers to understand as differences between the models.

You can't look at the RMB in a bubble; you have to look at it in the context of the overall notebook assortment and how it's differentiated from the Air and the Pro so consumers can comprehend them all and choose the one they want. If horsepower means something to a consumer, Skylake is confined to the Air and the Pro which are the performance machines. If weight and size means something to a consumer, the 12" 2 pound form factor is awarded to the RMB which is the portablility/travel machine. There is a delicate balance here if Apple intends to support all three MacBook lines. If the RMB gets two ports and Skylake, and the Air gets thinner and lighter with a retina display, and the Pro gets thinner and lighter and the butterfly keyboard, Apple has a marketing mess on its hands and an even tougher in-store sales experience for its retail division. There need to be marked, dominant, physical points of differentiation between the models and Skylake, number of ports, Retina display, weight, and screen size are the biggest ones.

BJ
 
You do understand there is a core-m version of Skylake right? Just like the Haswell that is in the current generation. It is an incremental generational upgrade, one that will be made with very little fanfare and likely just show up in stores. It's not like the form factor of the rMB is going to change because of the Skylake processor.
 
sell my current RMB on Craigslist

I thought you said that you're a billionaire that looks down on and feels bad for simpleton janitors and such, and you have an expensive wife that drives your kids to yuppy extra-curricular activities, in your flashy BMW, while you rub elbows with white shoe executives in private airport lounges, where they swoon around your status symbol rMB? That kind of person would not bother with such low-life activities like selling on craigslist.
 
You do understand there is a core-m version of Skylake right? Just like the Haswell that is in the current generation. It is an incremental generational upgrade, one that will be made with very little fanfare and likely just show up in stores. It's not like the form factor of the rMB is going to change because of the Skylake processor.

Again, if the upgrade is so subtle as to not change the RMB enough to be noticed there is zero reason for Apple to take the time to engineer to it. Apple is here to sell products. They won't sell 1 incremental RMB because of a quiet upgrade with no fanfare so there's no reason to bother with it. The RMB isn't about performance; it's about portability. Apple will stop the production line for a leap in weight and height, nothing more.

BJ
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I thought you said that you're a billionaire that looks down on and feels bad for simpleton janitors and such, and you have an expensive wife that drives your kids to yuppy extra-curricular activities, in your flashy BMW, while you rub elbows with white shoe executives in private airport lounges, where they swoon around your status symbol rMB? That kind of person would not bother with such low-life activities like selling on craigslist.

One does not get rich by being stupid. $1000 is $1000. And, besides, I enjoy Craigslist and the people I meet through it as I sell my legacy iOS devices annually. Most are hot college student strippers. I should be paying them for the meetups.

BJ
 
I sell my legacy iOS devices annually. Most are hot college student strippers. I should be paying them for the meetups.

Too funny

I spotted this the other am, guy was trying to double the value of his car with one of those Apple stickers you never know what to do with:

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Too funny

I spotted this the other am, guy was trying to double the value of his car with one of those Apple stickers you never know what to do with:

LOL, too funny.

The Craigslist thing for me always goes like this: I wait until I receive my new $399 iPhone on the day of its release, I wipe the old iPhone clean, I submit the unlock request to AT&T. Two days later, the phone is unlocked, I take good photos, I write good copy, post it for sale at the same $399 as my new iPhone. Within an hour I am inundated with purchase requests from low ballers with foreign sounding names. I don't reply to them. After a day I have about 50 responses and I carefully choose to open the emails from females with English sounding names. We email back and forth and they always give me their phone numbers and ask me to call them. Eventually, I speak to a young hottie that I just know is a stripper, and she's the one I ask to meet me at the local Starbucks. As soon as she says she works nights and can only meet me between 10AM and 4PM I know she's a performer. Mission accomplished.

At Starbucks, I set my new iPhone on the table, place the BMW keyfob in a very visible location next to the latte, roll up the sleeve so the Rolex glistens under the halogens, set the Ray Bans up on my forehead. She walks in, she's smokin' hot, I'd give her the damned phone for free if we could just be honest with each other, but alas, she whips out a paper clip, pops the SIM card out of her beaten old phone, asks me to send a test text, hands over a sweaty stack of $20 bills, prances away, the smell of Chanel lingers in the air for a moment, I try not to stare as she glides in to her rusty pink Toyota, another successful transaction, my old iPhone has paid for my new iPhone yet again. For a moment I ponder sneaking off from the wife when she falls asleep and hunting for my buyer at the local clubs, but I lose my energy by midnight and fall asleep on the couch, my binged episode of Breaking Bad playing to silence.

BJ
 
LOL, too funny.

The Craigslist thing for me always goes like this: I wait until I receive my new $399 iPhone on the day of its release, I wipe the old iPhone clean, I submit the unlock request to AT&T. Two days later, the phone is unlocked, I take good photos, I write good copy, post it for sale at the same $399 as my new iPhone. Within an hour I am inundated with purchase requests from low ballers with foreign sounding names. I don't reply to them. After a day I have about 50 responses and I carefully choose to open the emails from females with English sounding names. We email back and forth and they always give me their phone numbers and ask me to call them. Eventually, I speak to a young hottie that I just know is a stripper, and she's the one I ask to meet me at the local Starbucks. As soon as she says she works nights and can only meet me between 10AM and 4PM I know she's a performer. Mission accomplished.

At Starbucks, I set my new iPhone on the table, place the BMW keyfob in a very visible location next to the latte, roll up the sleeve so the Rolex glistens under the halogens, set the Ray Bans up on my forehead. She walks in, she's smokin' hot, I'd give her the damned phone for free if we could just be honest with each other, but alas, she whips out a paper clip, pops the SIM card out of her beaten old phone, asks me to send a test text, hands over a sweaty stack of $20 bills, prances away, the smell of Chanel lingers in the air for a moment, I try not to stare as she glides in to her rusty pink Toyota, another successful transaction, my old iPhone has paid for my new iPhone yet again. For a moment I ponder sneaking off from the wife when she falls asleep and hunting for my buyer at the local clubs, but I lose my energy by midnight and fall asleep on the couch, my binged episode of Breaking Bad playing to silence.

BJ
Dam all I get is some little guy in open toed working boots :) trying to pay me in coins he got from recycling coke cans and cardboard boxes
 
stop the production line? Is this guy for real? Apple does incremental upgrades across their entire line of products all the time. Lol stop the production line, yes it will totally halt business for them to solder one stack of chipsets over the other.

Why did you just give us a play by play of how you sell on craigslist other then to once again show the site how full of **** you are? Sorry man, but you got some issues.
 
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Just looked at the ignored posts by BJ in this thread. Stuff is gold. Like a egomaniac desperately trying to convince others of his own deluded sense of self importance. Jeeze, it's a processor spec bump but here you are bragging about xyz. It's sad. Don't believe any of your bs for a second, who writes how much each thing costs in their signature?
You know most rich people really don't give a **** about bragging, it's those who wish they were rich or don't quite have enough that brag about this sort of nonsense. I went to state school, my sister went to private, you can spot the fakes and wannabes a mile off. I'm 23 and drive a new Mini (BMW) that I bought after writing my previous one off into my neighbours parked car, you're just pathetic. You wouldn't know class and sophistication if it walked right passed you. FYI Rolex's are the tackiest watches ever, classic peasant buy, unlike my Omega Seamaster.
I imagine there's plenty of afluent people on this forum, Apple is a premium brand after all, you aren't one of them. Get help, really.

Anyway, back to topic. Did anyone see the front page news talking about likely release dates for Skylake Macs? Could well be a March release. Can't wait, was playing around with a Space Grey one again in store.
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it's pointless to argue with a broken gramophone plate. As you see, his answer is carefully crafted and may branch the discussion in so many ways that the original topic of the thread will sink in the sands of madness. That someone claims they have owned a great deal of apple stuff does not give more weight to their opinion. I may claim my boss has bought me a 200 sq. m. house - prove that I lie!

So, I have a question, please. I am not gonna read the 20-something pages of discussions between bj and his respondends but I would like to ask straightaway:

Is it right that SkyLake will bring to the rMB:
~20% more processor productivity
~40% better graphics
~better battery life

Even if these numbers are not quite correct, I'd rather a skylake laptop simply because it's new, and broadwell is old. If we talked desktops with dedicated gpu, the skylake improvements will be marginal and unworthy to wait for. But the claim skylake will bring marginal improvements to laptops is just... laughable

Just ignore that guy.

I've been pretty well read up on Skylake and Core-M, reading their coverage on Anandtech. From what I've seen 10-15% IPC for the CPU, 40% improvement for the iGPU and slightly better battery is all likely. Hopefully it shouldn't be too much longer and we will find out. Like you, I'm just happy to wait for the new chips.
Skylake was always about improving the uArch at their lower TDP chips and focusing especially on iGPU performance and continuing Haswell's energy efficiency focus.
 
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The days of the operating system wars are long, long over. And history shows us that people simply don't care about them. 92% of the world runs Windows, and about 60% of them run Windows XP or Windows 7, about a decade old. And most Windows owners own multiple iOS devices, about as foreign to Windows as it gets for about a day and then you learn how to use it and move on. My wife bounces between Windows and OSX every few years when she gets a new notebook from work, sometimes they're into Dell, sometimes Apple, and it doesn't matter to her as long as she can launch Outlook and Excel and Powerpoint and Skype. An OS is just something to launch apps and get out of the way. The only people who seem to care about operating systems are Mac people and I think it's simply due to feeling like the underdog.



Understand this please- Steve Jobs himself pitched my corporation and my division on carrying his products and setting up an Apple shop in our stores, to convince us he outfitted us with Macintosh computers, and I learned how to operate a computer on one of those Macs back in 1986. I didn't engage with a MS device until my company switched to IBM desktops in 1992. Since then, between my wife and kids I've purchased 2 MacBook's, 3 MacBook Air's, 1 MacBook Pro, 2 iMac's, and on the iOS side I've owned every iPhone and iPad and Apple TV ever made on Day 1 of its release, being one of those zealots who waited on line at 3AM to get the iPhone 3G and at noon to get the original iPad.

So while I'm a Windows user, I believe I probably have purchased, owned, and used more Apple devices than almost anyone here. There shouldn't be some assumption that because I run Windows on the RMB that I'm somehow a misfit and less qualified to offer opinions on Apple products. And my contention is simply that Apple isn't in the computer business any more, they make phones and tablets and streamers and wristwatches and manage music stores and app stores and retail stores and the days of quick notebook updates are well behind us. If Skylake were some fantastic leap forward, I might be more inclined to think it is happening. Apple has bigger priorities than to release a fractional update to what might be its most niche product.

BJ

I have no quarrel with your freedom to express your opinions about the computer market, though I disagree with some (and agree with others). It's your condescending attitude that sets me off. Rolex, BMW, beach house, trophy wife? Please. You come across like Donald Trump. So I'm going to take the advice of others here and just ignore you from now on.
 
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I don't even know what Thunderbolt is. I use my MacBook for Windows 10 exclusively, I can't stand Mac's or OSX, I was looking for the thinnest/lightest/fastest Windows 10 machine on the market and the RMB is it.

EDIT: Did a quick Google on Thunderbolt and it seems its a 2011 technology for connecting peripherals to notebooks back in the day. So its pretty obvious why it will never appear on the RMB which is not about old legacy technologies and old legacy peripherals.

BoltJames has been missing out by knowing nothing about Thunderbolt, I'll tell you what. I plumped for the MacBook Air and Apple Thunderbolt display in 2011 and can't imagine living without that kind of bandwidth in my peripheral chain. Well, I can imagine it, I guess, since I've got a Retina MacBook now. TB3 and its 40GBps pipe can't come soon enough.

Steve Jobs yelled at me on a conference call once. And then I got a series of sharp emails from his minions.
 
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I have no quarrel with your freedom to express your opinions about the computer market, though I disagree with some (and agree with others). It's your condescending attitude that sets me off. Rolex, BMW, beach house, trophy wife? Please. You come across like Donald Trump. So I'm going to take the advice of others here and just ignore you from now on.

It's a signature. While truthful, it's intended to be funny. What's condescending is that you read my signature and make false assumptions, if you read my posts there's noting condescending about them, just a viewpoint you occasionally find disagreeable.

And let's be honest please- we're talking about Apple here, an elitist brand. We're discussing the merits of $1,600 notebooks, not the $299 notebooks at Walmart. Point being, we all have money or we wouldn't be Apple supporters.

BJ
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BoltJames has been missing out by knowing nothing about Thunderbolt, I'll tell you what. I plumped for the MacBook Air and Apple Thunderbolt display in 2011 and can't imagine living without that kind of bandwidth in my peripheral chain. Well, I can imagine it, I guess, since I've got a Retina MacBook now. TB3 and its 40GBps pipe can't come soon enough.

Steve Jobs yelled at me on a conference call once. And then I got a series of sharp emails from his minions.

Cool on the Steve Jobs interaction, that's awesome.

Regarding Thunderbolt, my understanding is that it has massive throughput which enables peripherals to scream. That sounds counter to the RMB yet again as it has a weak processor for such things and only a single port. If Thunderbolt is about an array of processor-intensive peripherals, it's completely wrong for the RMB. Another example of people who really want a MacBook Pro Extra Thin who are going about it the wrong way; instead of lobbying Apple to take the Pro and make it thinner, they're asking Apple to take the RMB and make it thicker. Not going to happen.

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Regarding Thunderbolt, my understanding is that it has massive throughput which enables peripherals to scream. That sounds counter to the RMB yet again as it has a weak processor for such things and only a single port. If Thunderbolt is about an array of processor-intensive peripherals, it's completely wrong for the RMB. Another example of people who really want a MacBook Pro Extra Thin who are going about it the wrong way; instead of lobbying Apple to take the Pro and make it thinner, they're asking Apple to take the RMB and make it thicker. Not going to happen.

No, man, that's where you don't get it. The processor is increasingly irrelevant. Data is relevant, and so is the ability to move data. Bandwidth is where it's at. Why is the SSD better than a hard drive? Why is RAM going to give you more of a performance kick than a processor upgrade? Bandwidth.
 
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