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There are several applications that I use whose iOS equivalent doesn't offer the functionality I need/want. My use for a MacBook is to have OS X on the go, mainly.

Yeah, if an iPad was the better option for you, you'd have gone with it long ago. I don't understand where his "lifestyle" comment is coming from. It's not like MacBooks are cool and iPads aren't.
 
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You could make do with an iPad - mine works for 10 hours for a single charge. In today's world it's unknown why people want to demote their computers to tasks that a simple phone can perform. Maybe that's called lifestyle.

Lol...

"It's unknown"...I could do most things on my 4 year old MacBook 5 times faster than the same operation on your iPad. I personally have zero use for an iPad, whether it be using the less quick touch screen typing or typing on a finicky, expensive, shoddy keyboard accessory that requires a 3rd party charging solution (micro USB).

This is a post about Skylake in the next MB...if the poster wanted an iPad for whatever he's trying to accomplish, pretty sure he would already have an iPad based on Apple's advertising craze for the device over the past 5 years.

I can assure you there are more than enough power users on this forum who wouldn't dare touch an iPad when trying to be efficient in whatever task they're performing. Not to mention lack of compatible software for iPads for a majority of enterprise applications
 
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Lol...

"It's unknown"...I could do most things on my 4 year old MacBook 5 times faster than the same operation on your iPad. I personally have zero use for an iPad, whether it be using the less quick touch screen typing or typing on a finicky, expensive, shoddy keyboard accessory that requires a 3rd party charging solution (micro USB).

This is a post about Skylake in the next MB...if the poster wanted an iPad for whatever he's trying to accomplish, pretty sure he would already have an iPad based on Apple's advertising craze for the device over the past 5 years.

I can assure you there are more than enough power users on this forum who wouldn't dare touch an iPad when trying to be efficient in whatever task they're performing. Not to mention lack of compatible software for iPads for a majority of enterprise applications
you have taken my words out of the context, so your "lol" sounds a little bit not quite polite. We were talking browsing, picture viewing and music streaming. Please be more careful next time you quote my posts.
Power users? On a the retina macbook forum? Well here is a rare case where I agree with our fellow-member boltjames.
 
you have taken my words out of the context, so your "lol" sounds a little bit not quite polite. We were talking browsing, picture viewing and music streaming. Please be more careful next time you quote my posts.
Power users? On a the retina macbook forum? Well here is a rare case where I agree with our fellow-member boltjames.

Didn't mean any disrespect, just thought your post was a bit misguided.

Just because your phone can do a task, it doesn't make it better than a computer at performing that task. You said "it's unknown why people want to demote their computers to tasks that a simple phone can perform". It's not unknown, it's for fairly obvious reasons. Even for browsing or music streaming, these tasks are much more efficient on a computer, especially when dealing with multiple tabs or multiple songs.

Also, I don't believe I took anything out of context when I included the sentence you wrote prior to the quote you were referring to??
 
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Lol...

"It's unknown"...I could do most things on my 4 year old MacBook 5 times faster than the same operation on your iPad. I personally have zero use for an iPad, whether it be using the less quick touch screen typing or typing on a finicky, expensive, shoddy keyboard accessory that requires a 3rd party charging solution (micro USB).

This is a post about Skylake in the next MB...if the poster wanted an iPad for whatever he's trying to accomplish, pretty sure he would already have an iPad based on Apple's advertising craze for the device over the past 5 years.

I can assure you there are more than enough power users on this forum who wouldn't dare touch an iPad when trying to be efficient in whatever task they're performing. Not to mention lack of compatible software for iPads for a majority of enterprise applications

Years ago I wanted to embrace the iPad and kick my heavy notebook to the curb as I travel a lot and was tired of the weight, the thickness, the bulky power supply, the noisy fan, the slow boot times, the crappy battery life, the blurry screen, and all the rest.

That lasted about two weeks.

Right now, my iPad is nothing more than my movie and TV show player on flights and my laying-in-bed web browsing device. I need a real keyboard, I need true multitasking, I need folders and subfolders, I need to build Powerpoints, I need to construct spreadsheets, the iPad just isn't as good as a notebook.

Back to the RMB, it's the perfect notebook as a complimentary tool to the iPad. Having them both is still less than the weight/bulk of my old notebook and now I get the best media device for travel and the best productivity device for travel and couldn't be happier. Thin movie player for an airline tray table, full size keyboard for meetings, retina displays, 18 hours of combined battery life. 12" Retina MacBook + iPad Air = The Apple Dream Team.

BJ
 
you have taken my words out of the context, so your "lol" sounds a little bit not quite polite. We were talking browsing, picture viewing and music streaming. Please be more careful next time you quote my posts.
Power users? On a the retina macbook forum? Well here is a rare case where I agree with our fellow-member boltjames.

I think you're being a bit over-sensitive here.

And, yes, power users on the rMB forum. Hello. We don't all need lots of local processing grunt.
 
Years ago I wanted to embrace the iPad and kick my heavy notebook to the curb as I travel a lot and was tired of the weight, the thickness, the bulky power supply, the noisy fan, the slow boot times, the crappy battery life, the blurry screen, and all the rest.

That lasted about two weeks.

Right now, my iPad is nothing more than my movie and TV show player on flights and my laying-in-bed web browsing device. I need a real keyboard, I need true multitasking, I need folders and subfolders, I need to build Powerpoints, I need to construct spreadsheets, the iPad just isn't as good as a notebook.

Back to the RMB, it's the perfect notebook as a complimentary tool to the iPad. Having them both is still less than the weight/bulk of my old notebook and now I get the best media device for travel and the best productivity device for travel and couldn't be happier. Thin movie player for an airline tray table, full size keyboard for meetings, retina displays, 18 hours of combined battery life. 12" Retina MacBook + iPad Air = The Apple Dream Team.

BJ

Totally agree that your use cases demonstrate where the iPad shines. As far as a portable 'media' device, it's unbeatable. Especially if you have a cellular model, the combined screen resolution, display quality, battery life, etc all combine for the best experience for media viewing/consuming.

Personally, I don't travel often enough to justify owning an iPad. My in bed device is actually my 6s+. It's easier to hold than an iPad/iPad mini and offers almost identical functionality. Well, I actually do own an original IPad mini, but I turn it on about every 3 months to make sure it still works lol. After I download app/software updates, I put it down for another 3 months. I'd estimate I used it for 15 minutes in 2015.

Effortless multitasking, file management, quality keyboard input, and intensive software applications are all reasons the Mac isn't going away anytime soon. iOS devices have come such a long way, it's truly incredible honestly, but Macs will have a place in the foreseeable future.
 
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Well, I actually do own an original IPad mini, but I turn it on about every 3 months to make sure it still works lol. After I download app/software updates, I put it down for another 3 months. I'd estimate I used it for 15 minutes in 2015.

Part of the reason you put down that iPad mini, though, is that its performance was abysmal and after an update to iOS 8 it became nearly unusable.
 
Part of the reason you put down that iPad mini, though, is that its performance was abysmal and after an update to iOS 8 it became nearly unusable.

That's true, but this summer I was lent an iPad Air 2 for about 2 weeks and I hardly ever even used that. Regardless, I'm just not an iPad person. If I had an iPhone 6 or 5S, then I could see there being a purpose. But the 6s+ screen is big enough if I'm going to surf and consume media on an iOS device.

Having to deal with another device where Apple's less than reliable iCloud services sync my photos, data, etc. is just not worth it to me. Couple that with having to keep apps updated, typing in account passwords, updating software updates, and some terribly formatted iPad apps, having a second iOS device is more of a chore than a luxury, for me at least.
 
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Years ago I wanted to embrace the iPad and kick my heavy notebook to the curb as I travel a lot and was tired of the weight, the thickness, the bulky power supply, the noisy fan, the slow boot times, the crappy battery life, the blurry screen, and all the rest.

That lasted about two weeks.

Right now, my iPad is nothing more than my movie and TV show player on flights and my laying-in-bed web browsing device. I need a real keyboard, I need true multitasking, I need folders and subfolders, I need to build Powerpoints, I need to construct spreadsheets, the iPad just isn't as good as a notebook.

Back to the RMB, it's the perfect notebook as a complimentary tool to the iPad. Having them both is still less than the weight/bulk of my old notebook and now I get the best media device for travel and the best productivity device for travel and couldn't be happier. Thin movie player for an airline tray table, full size keyboard for meetings, retina displays, 18 hours of combined battery life. 12" Retina MacBook + iPad Air = The Apple Dream Team.

BJ

This is very similar to my experience and use case. My first iPad was the iPad 3 and I tried to use it as a notebook replacement for a while. Clunky keyboard covers, trying countless apps to get some semblance of a file system and connection to my files elsewhere, frustration over no multitasking, and a lot of wasted time later I just stopped. I realized that for me, the iPad was a good consumption device but could not replace my notebook.

I sold my iPad 3 and bought a iPad mini 2 when it was released, and that combined with my rMB is perfect for my use. No more frustration. I have a real computer that can run OSX and Windows and an iPad for light browsing and media. If I had to choose only one, it'd be the rMB without question. It's such a useful little machine.
 
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If it weren't for Apple, innovation like Thunderbolt and Lightning wouldn't exist, or would take decades longer. I don't think Apple is niche by design, but they value innovation and "being different" more than market share. The day Apple changes its philosophy or culture is the day you will not have something as sleek as the rMB in your hands anymore. Regardless of your opinion about OS X, you still wouldn't trade your rMB in for a Dell right now. USB is king, not Thunderbolt, I agree, but without Thunderbolt, USB-C would not be where it is going now. I think you're quick to judge and put down. Not telling you how to "be," but a less grating tone would help you out here. Unless you like being flamed, then by all means continue...

Thunderbolt is made by Intel and existed as fiber solution before Apple got involved, Apple only supplied some help for the copper part. Intel own ALL IP on thunderbolt. TB3 is solely developed at Intel Israel.
 
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This is very similar to my experience and use case. My first iPad was the iPad 3 and I tried to use it as a notebook replacement for a while. Clunky keyboard covers, trying countless apps to get some semblance of a file system and connection to my files elsewhere, frustration over no multitasking, and a lot of wasted time later I just stopped. I realized that for me, the iPad was a good consumption device but could not replace my notebook.

I sold my iPad 3 and bought a iPad mini 2 when it was released, and that combined with my rMB is perfect for my use. No more frustration. I have a real computer that can run OSX and Windows and an iPad for light browsing and media. If I had to choose only one, it'd be the rMB without question. It's such a useful little machine.
Same here: rMB plus iPad Air. Only thing is the Lack of power in the rMB, hopefully the new March Release will include a lighter Mac Book pro 12" or an Update of the current rMB
 
What are the chances that in the next Macbook, we will see a processor increase and longer battery life? i'm looking for the battery life of the Macbook Air which is around 12 hours.
 
What are the chances that in the next Macbook, we will see a processor increase and longer battery life? i'm looking for the battery life of the Macbook Air which is around 12 hours.

Skylake would increase both of those things. The battery gains are not that great though. Any update will be to skylake.
 
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I see a couple of people running with the rMB + Ipad combo. For me, I feel as if the rMB would be my go to machine for work + play and my iphone 6+ would be my ultra-portable. I feel like owning an rMB, ipad, and an iphone is over-kill but if it works for others than nice!

I may however buy a monitor and have a dock station.
 
I see a couple of people running with the rMB + Ipad combo. For me, I feel as if the rMB would be my go to machine for work + play and my iphone 6+ would be my ultra-portable. I feel like owning an rMB, ipad, and an iphone is over-kill but if it works for others than nice!

I may however buy a monitor and have a dock station.

exactly what I do. My macbook serves as my "ipad" and every day laptop. I dock when I am at work.
 
Skylake would increase both of those things. The battery gains are not that great though. Any update will be to skylake.

The only thing I really want from the MacBook Air is the 12 hour battery life, I think that would be great on the retina MacBook. The professor bump would also be welcome.
 
I see a couple of people running with the rMB + Ipad combo. For me, I feel as if the rMB would be my go to machine for work + play and my iphone 6+ would be my ultra-portable. I feel like owning an rMB, ipad, and an iphone is over-kill but if it works for others than nice!

I may however buy a monitor and have a dock station.
In my case I use the iPad to watch movies on the go, read magazines, do quick edits of office documents and comment PDFs with a stylus. All things that are not possible or suboptimal with both iPhone and Mac book ;)
 
Faster performance would be nice - but that trades off battery and weight - I'll stick to MBP for now!
 
Skylake would increase both of those things. The battery gains are not that great though. Any update will be to skylake.
From preliminary results, the skylake will do two things, alleviate throttling issues as we see in many Skylake configured windows laptops and significantly improved GPU, especially on CoreM models (up to 50% seeing many Ars benchmarks). These should definitely make the use of the rMP less painful, especially the GPU performance considering how many applications rely on GPU acceleration now (with Metal even more so).
 
From preliminary results, the skylake will do two things, alleviate throttling issues as we see in many Skylake configured windows laptops and significantly improved GPU, especially on CoreM models (up to 50% seeing many Ars benchmarks).
The throttling issues are due to heat dissipation, not the CPU itself, so Skylake will not have any major effect on that, unless Apple clocks Skylake lower than the current Core M CPU's.
 
How big are the chances that the next iteration of the rMB will have the much anticipated Thunderbolt 3 port on-board?

I've read reports that the Skylake CPU is capable of driving up to three 4K displays at 60 Hz via Alpine Ridge. However, Intel will move the TB3 controller on the cpu-die no earlier than Kaby Lake. Thus, I'm confused whether it's worth the waiting for a TB3 introduction in the Skylake rMB or grab the current rMB?
 
How big are the chances that the next iteration of the rMB will have the much anticipated Thunderbolt 3 port on-board?

I've read reports that the Skylake CPU is capable of driving up to three 4K displays at 60 Hz via Alpine Ridge. However, Intel will move the TB3 controller on the cpu-die no earlier than Kaby Lake. Thus, I'm confused whether it's worth the waiting for a TB3 introduction in the Skylake rMB or grab the current rMB?

Exactly. That feature, in my opinion, makes it worth waiting for. Whether we will see TB3 in the next iteration is an unknown, however.
 
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