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There will be only slim MacBookPro as the news said.

No more optical drives.

You dont need powerful GPU in a laptop. If you are a gamer, you play with iOS or Xbox perhaps even AppleTV will have some games.

Laptops are for adults. Not for gaming children.

Who are you to say what someone needs?
 
Hey Guys!

I'm very new to the releases of MacBooks, I've actually never followed one. I only have experience from the iPhones and iPads. Now to my question. How do they announce their laptops? Do they do it the same way as they do with the phones or is it just an update in the store?
 
I'm disappointed as it may mean that a refresh to Ivy Bridge may not occur in summer.

I've been saving my pennies just for a newer model but I'm not so sure I want to drop 2k on a laptop that uses a chipset that will be replaced in a couple of months.
 
I'm disappointed as it may mean that a refresh to Ivy Bridge may not occur in summer.

I've been saving my pennies just for a newer model but I'm not so sure I want to drop 2k on a laptop that uses a chipset that will be replaced in a couple of months.

I believe there was a rumor about two days ago hinting that a certain OEM forced Intel to delay the Ivy Bridge launch because they ordered a majority of their supplies, especially the low-voltage ones. ;)
 
I'm disappointed as it may mean that a refresh to Ivy Bridge may not occur in summer.

I've been saving my pennies just for a newer model but I'm not so sure I want to drop 2k on a laptop that uses a chipset that will be replaced in a couple of months.

they will probably have Ivy Bridge, they will probably have intel backing them up with early adoption of the newest chipsets (like last year with second gen Sandy Bridge)

Stef
 
Hey Guys!

I'm very new to the releases of MacBooks, I've actually never followed one. I only have experience from the iPhones and iPads. Now to my question. How do they announce their laptops? Do they do it the same way as they do with the phones or is it just an update in the store?

They do a press release, all of the usual tech magazines and web sites run articles about what's changed or improved. On the Apple website the latest product to be updated usually gets the homepage for a while and a 'new' badge appears next to the updated items on the store page. Nothing close to the fanfare involved with the release of a new iPhone or iPad. iOS is now 70% of Apple's profits and the public are much more excited to hear about new iOS products than they are about updates to the older lines.

I think customers have become accustomed to a level of quality in MBP's and expect that they'll have the latest greatest features with every update.

If there is a complete redesign of the MBP there will be quite a bit more fanfare, so this update might get more press coverage than usual.
 
If they have Ivy Bridge, I will be the first to camp outside, or at the very least order online :D
 
They do a press release, all of the usual tech magazines and web sites run articles about what's changed or improved. On the Apple website the latest product to be updated usually gets the homepage for a while and a 'new' badge appears next to the updated items on the store page. Nothing close to the fanfare involved with the release of a new iPhone or iPad. iOS is now 70% of Apple's profits and the public are much more excited to hear about new iOS products than they are about updates to the older lines.

I think customers have become accustomed to a level of quality in MBP's and expect that they'll have the latest greatest features with every update.

If there is a complete redesign of the MBP there will be quite a bit more fanfare, so this update might get more press coverage than usual.

Thanks for the answer!
So there's not going to be any way to know when they reveal it, like we did with the iPad for example?
 
There will be only slim MacBookPro as the news said.

No more optical drives.

You dont need powerful GPU in a laptop. If you are a gamer, you play with iOS or Xbox perhaps even AppleTV will have some games.

Laptops are for adults. Not for gaming children.

In this day and age real adults who want to use one computer for all their work and happen to work on graphics intensive programs need powerful discreet graphics... preferably pro versions and not gaming versions.

What would create the perfect solution would be a thunderbolt dock that added pro graphics, variety of ports and maybe even an optical drive allowing the burning of dvd's for clients.

That way the bulk of the graphics work is done at the desk connected to the dock while the laptop remains ultra portable for travel and meetings.
 
In this day and age real adults who want to use one computer for all their work and happen to work on graphics intensive programs need powerful discreet graphics... preferably pro versions and not gaming versions.

What would create the perfect solution would be a thunderbolt dock that added pro graphics, variety of ports and maybe even an optical drive allowing the burning of dvd's for clients.

That way the bulk of the graphics work is done at the desk connected to the dock while the laptop remains ultra portable for travel and meetings.

The interesting thing is that originally laptops was all-in-one devices while desktops were modular ones. Apple would invert this logic making modular laptops (MBA plus TBolt add-ons) and all-in-one desktops (iMac).
 
As a Musician and Audio Engineer, I would be sad to see the ODD go; however, the amount of use my disk drive sees has been decreasing dramatically over the past few years. Hopefully Apple puts something of use in its place, maybe more USB ports, larger battery, an SSD drive. I would love to have at least 3 usb ports on my 13", in the studio and on stage I have to use a USB hub to accomodate my needed external devices, which is far from ideal. Also, I want to see the models come straight out of the box with at least 8gbs of ram.
 
I'd choose the one with the ODD because I actually use it. SSDs are nice but too expensive at the moment (you can get a 1TB HD for the price of a 256GB SSD, not worth it at all)



An SSD doesn't necessarily drive the price up. A 16-32GB 'cache' SSD could be used to speed up a 500GB drive. ( a much higher cache percentage than the 4GB hybrid drives that are out). Once resistriced to not being the primary storage drive the cost of the SSD could be made the same as the cost of the ODD that it replacing. So net price change isn't necessarily up.

The issue is putting components that are more highly valued by a wider set of users. Not expensive components versus less expensive ones and turning it into "do I value it more to pay more" issue. Keep the costs the same and it is much easier to see what people put a higher value on between two items they are being asked to buy.

and I'm sure they can upgrade the rest of the computer without removing a vital component like they've been doing so far.

The "vital" aspect is relative to individuals. It is the aggregate value appeal that will drive inclusion or not. Making people buy components they don't want also has issues. So far there is nothing concrete to suggest that the ODD goes out and only "nothingness"/"thinness" goes in.
 
It is no secret that Apple pushes forward at a much faster rate than the industry; in a lot of cases, they force the industry forward. But there are so many possibilities and ideas that Apple could enact by getting rid of the one thing that they have been trying to discontinue for years.

And yet they still cling to FireWire even though I haven't used a single device with FireWire in five years.

Funny that. :rolleyes:
 
The interesting thing is that originally laptops was all-in-one devices while desktops were modular ones. Apple would invert this logic making modular laptops (MBA plus TBolt add-ons) and all-in-one desktops (iMac).

Not really since TB isn't restricted to laptops. iMacs are just as modular capable as MBA. Perhaps bigger building blocks but just as modular.

For instance, if add a TB display to an iMac it will then have two Ethernet ports and dual FW800 controllers. While not quite as a big a jump as from zero to one, it is still a jump. For example someone with a FW800 disk drive and a audio digitizing device can put them on separate buses to maximize real-time throughput with equipment they already own.
 
I still need an optical disc drive. Having said that - I would prefer an external one in exchange for a lighter computer or one that has a larger battery and runs longer.

What I really hope is completely clear to Apple that they must offer a Pro notebook with the most recent and powerful notebook CPUs and GPUs. Otherwise the geeks would start shopping elsewhere. Even so the Geeks are only a 10% fraction of the buyers, they are usually the ones that influent a lot of people - the main part of the remaining 90%
 
Display support

It is my understanding Intel integrated graphics 4000 style will address up to three monitors. If the model with the graphics card also does this, we may see some monitor intensive applications be able to use smaller Powerbook 13 and 15 to drive them either all at once or headlessly. That is what I will be looking for.

Rocketman
 
Make a better iPad

I can't stand the term 'retina display' its marketing BS from Apple at its best. At first they claimed it to be on par (or better) than typical print resolution (300dpi) and yet the term is still used even for the iPad when its well below the 300dpi mark.

I'd expect noobs in the public to be duped by the term, but not anyone on forums like this one, most of us here are pretty tech savvy.

Seriously folks, make your own higher pixel-density iPad if you don't like the iPad 3's retina display. Otherwise get over it, 'cause the display looks freakin amazing. They could call it a poopy pooper mcpooperson display, and I would still buy it - "retina" sounds much better though.
 
I have a MBP 17" and I can't see the pixels at normal viewing distances. Curves are smooth enough for me and all media looks great on it. I don't need the "retina" display.
As for the ODD - I hardly use mine and have been thinking of the SSD replacement kits OWC sells. As for the "hassle" of carrying around an external drive - You guys who are burning DVDs on the go for clients are already carrying around blank DVDs, just carry less of them when you have to carry the drive.
I can see them very well they are little lighting colorfull dots over all your sceen
 
Seriously folks, make your own higher pixel-density iPad if you don't like the iPad 3's retina display. Otherwise get over it, 'cause the display looks freakin amazing. They could call it a poopy pooper mcpooperson display, and I would still buy it - "retina" sounds much better though.

Again, its the TERM and the perception of its meaning that bothers mean. Jobs compared the iphone retina display to a book, basically 300dpi implying it'd be 300dpi or more (since the human eye cant see past that). Now you have the iPad thats LESS than 300dpi and the term *still applies* even if they had that math formula.. it doesnt mean anything because its been voided by their inconsistency. So... its marketing BS.

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And yet they still cling to FireWire even though I haven't used a single device with FireWire in five years.

Funny that. :rolleyes:

Dont worry, Firewire will have a new companion on the 'failed' list soon; Thunderbolt.

1+ year later and still barely any devices available and even the scarce choice is overwhelmingly overpriced. Once USB 3.0 comes out for MacBooks, TB is going to be dead; noone is going to want to buy new connections just to use TB, noone is going to ditch all their old peripherals for the TB (one because its pointless and two because there are no peripherals anyway!), etc. etc.
 
I don't think I've ever used the ODD in my MBP. The App store and flash drives should make ODD's obsolete. ODD's use far too much valuable space for the amount they're used anymore.

If that space could be used to provide more storage and more battery capacity I think consumers would be happy with the tradeoff. As it is, my MBP is thin enough, it doesn't need to be much smaller than it is. It could use a couple hours worth of additional battery power though. Removing the ODD opens up a number of different possibilities, all of which are more exciting than a nearly obsolete form of media storage.
The flash drives cost more, and the app store,is a good choice for you as somebody haveing money, but not to me, paying always for every download!

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you're saying consumers have spoken they want an professional laptop? A laptop that is professional means it needs these ports. you're a moron thinking because people like you who never use the full power of such an machine are entitled to make such comments. What you want is an macbook pro, but what you need is an macbook air. and you are by no means a professional user.
Yeah you are right, a pro machine need ODD and all ports and all things a real macbook pro lastly have!
 
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