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Smaller iPhone to Eliminate Storage, Rely on Cloud-Based Content?

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"I think they'll go back to how they marketed the introduction of the iPhone 1.0 and promote three great things - a phone, an iPod and an internet device, and push, push, push!"

Its kind of funny actually, Jobs said they were launching a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod with touch controls, and breakthrough Internet device, and that these would not be separate products. But a few years later they have released the iPhone, the iPod touch, and the iPad, three different devices that seems to fit those desrciptions. Kind of off topic though.
 
Ya... I wouldn't get this - it seems completely idiotic.

"Oh look, you can get an iPhone with no storage - and you can't use the App Store, or save any pictures on the phone, and you can't have any contacts on the phone either!"

There has to be storage for contacts... and if the thing has a camera, there's gonna be space for pictures. But this totally goes against the whole App Store thing. Apple first tried to push "applications in the cloud" before the SDK/App Store came into being - it didn't work.

Apologies if this just re-hashes everything.
 
This strikes me as pure speculation. If you look at the way Apple has been going with iOS it's ever improving features are then usable by the apps, meaning that better apps can be made. Each sold app brings a little more money to Apple. That's the goal ultimately.

A small iPhone with little memory streaming through mobileMe doesn't generate much revenue after the initial sale of the unit. This isn't the way Apple have been going for a number of years now.
 
I don't buy this latest rumor. I believe it will have same screen size, same apps, same user interface, just no forehead or chin and edge to edge screen. Who wants a dumb phone with no apps when you can get a half decent android for free now?
 
MacRumors said:
... But given the runaway success of the platform, it would still be surprising for Apple to shift away from an App Store-focused ecosystem for the new device....
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not to worry, this will never happen
a smaller phone: perhaps,
less storage and price drop: maybe

but loosing the memory and going cloud all the way, i ain't buying it!

While you're at it, why not discontinue all iPad, iPod and iPhones,
replace them by an iScreen (in several sizes) and go cloud on those devices as well... i doubt this will ever happen...
 
Iphone voip

Why doesnt apple redesign their ipod touch and call it the iphone voip. it would be a an ipod touch that you can talk into just like an iphone, but will have their own voip software and service built in. wifi is growing by leaps and bounds. then phone will enable to you to make voip calls whenever connected to wifi via their app. the phone would not need any cell technology to be inside it
 
This is one of the silliest rumors I have heard....ever.

Yet so many of you are discusing it as if it where fact, for crying out load if you believe this you'll believe the moon is made of cheese.

think about it....

1. Look at the ipod line up how many gigs are housed in a current nano?
2. Carriers are not geared upto such bandwidth requirements, and until we move to 4g wont be
3. Selling something that only works in certain conditions is silly. Do you think Apple are silly? after all they are the highest valued tec company on the planet and growing.

MacRumors sould never have put this hogwash on P1, it's a Page 2 story at best.

sheesh.....

ok rant over, get back to debating this stupidity if you like.....
 
I have been posting on this site for several years that Apple is shifting to a client-server model for its products and services. Here is a summary of related posts:

https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=22690241

If that link does not work, it is simply a MacRumors forum search for the terms rocketman and client and server.

Here are a couple of samples:

4-16-03
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/317025/

1-14-07
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/3249911/

As to this particular rumor, I believe the device will indeed support the app store and have local apps and a surprisingly fast processor so it can act as a mobile hotspot and media server. It may have original 3GS resolution at a higher ppi however since that is widely supported already. The cool thing is you are now taking your entire compute experience with you and can plug into local services such as a larger display or a car system or on your boat. :)

BTW streaming still sucks so you need a lot of cache.

Rocketman
 
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foofan said:
Why doesnt apple redesign their ipod touch and call it the iphone voip. it would be a an ipod touch that you can talk into just like an iphone, but will have their own voip software and service built in. wifi is growing by leaps and bounds. then phone will enable to you to make voip calls whenever connected to wifi via their app. the phone would not need any cell technology to be inside it
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wifi is growing but at a very slow rate compared to other services, it is not a 100% sure thing that you will find a wifi connection every wear (i admit that it is growing non stop)
 
avidos said:
This is one of the silliest rumors I have heard....ever.

Yet so many of you are discusing it as if it where fact, for crying out load if you believe this you'll believe the moon is made of cheese.

think about it....

1. Look at the ipod line up how many gigs are housed in a current nano?
2. Carriers are not geared upto such bandwidth requirements, and until we move to 4g wont be
3. Selling something that only works in certain conditions is silly. Do you think Apple are silly? after all they are the highest valued tec company on the planet and growing.

MacRumors sould never have put this hogwash on P1, it's a Page 2 story at best.

sheesh.....

ok rant over, get back to debating this stupidity if you like.....
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the silliest thing is how people cannot grasp the concept. look at an ipod touch and the price point it's at. People confuse contract pricing with the cost of an iPhone.

Why can't it be basically an ipod touch with 2gb of onboard storage to run a few apps?

Not everyone is a data hog...the iphone 4 is overkill in a lot of cases.

Stripping several options will allow them to get into a totally different market.

Look at all the people that still complain about space on the new MBA. i don't use dvd drive or much hard drive space so to have all that and an ethernet jack is a waste of money. Again, think of how the future will be with computing.
 
would someone please explain this push to make the iphone SMALLER??!! has anyone ever heard someone say "wow, this retina display is beautiful, but damn, i wish they made it much smaller!!".

:confused::confused:
 
rmhop81 said:
yeah and look at the price difference between the 2 devices.
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Exactly. That's what happens when you turn the Touch into a phone.

The device you are thinking of would be an Iphone 4 with a ****** screen and camera. That's still going to be $500.
 
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If it doesn't do apps..... Then it's just an iPod classic, that you have to pay for data
 
Tanguyvd said:
not to worry, this will never happen
a smaller phone: perhaps,
less storage and price drop: maybe

but loosing the memory and going cloud all the way, i ain't buying it!

While you're at it, why not discontinue all iPad, iPod and iPhones,
replace them by an iScreen (in several sizes) and go cloud on those devices as well... i doubt this will ever happen...
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It will happen - but not now. It will happen once we have reliable fast cloud access everywhere without paying arm and leg for it (roaming, ....) .
 
i made a quick mockup

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home button on the left

i hope iphone nano will be something like this:
- 2.8" or 3" display with 320*480res
- 8G storage (or at least 4G ! )
- 3.2mp camera and VGA camera
- very very thin and light
-run every app on appstore (like 3GS)
- cpu and ram similar to 3GS

and 200$.
 
Maybe Apple is just going to an all RAM based phone? You can still run your applications out of RAM, just nothing is stored there when you first turn on your phone.

Turn on Phone, go to play "Angry Birds" -- it is not on the phone (it was just turned on) so it is downloaded from the Cloud. But it is now in RAM.

Next time you go to play Angry Birds, even though you have no connection to the cloud, it plays just fine because it is in RAM.

Remember, FLASH is only needed to store things when there is no power, when it is fully off or out of battery. I don't know about anyone else, but I know that I go MONTHS without ever turning my phone off.

So the only time the "Cloud" would be required is when you first access something that is not already cached in RAM somewhere. Although it would still limit how much RAM you could have. I mean, most computers only have 4 or 8 GB of RAM, where as your phone has 16 or 32GB of FLASH. And, actually, RAM is multiple chips (1 per bit typically) thus takes up more space.

Maybe it's not such a good idea after all. LOL.
 
I get that the storage is expensive...

If this is the case. Sell the phone without storage and let the user supply via a microsd card or whatever. Without storage and apps it is not an iphone. If Apple allows us to supply our own storage it could be a killer little phone.
 
trip1ex said:
Exactly. That's what happens when you turn the Touch into a phone.

The device you are thinking of would be an Iphone 4 with a ****** screen and camera. That's still going to be $500.
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look at the pic above. why is this so difficult to grasp???? lol
 
Why does everyone think cloud storage is a good idea?

Waiting on buffering, not being in a 3G area or being on the train/plane etc just totally limits it. I'll stick to the full size, thanks.
 
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