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Snow Leopard Adds Minor Often Requested Tweaks: Put Back, Stack Folder Navigation

volfreak said:
  1. printing the contents of the finder window
  2. printing a file from the Finder - right-click and choose print to send the selected file(s) to the printer
:)
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Great suggestions!!!!!

Wasn't printing contents,a part, no, not just a part of OS 9 but a STAPLE of os 9 much touted against wintel's not having it?
 
jackfrost123 said:
Great suggestions!!!!!

Wasn't printing contents,a part, no, not just a part of OS 9 but a STAPLE of os 9 much touted against wintel's not having it?
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Yes it was. And, to my knowledge, you still can't do this on Windows (at least up through XP SP3 - haven't tried it on Windows 7 yet). It would really be nice to get this feature back (at least for me).
 
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As a Mac convert from about a year and 1/2 ago, I would welcome both of the items mentioned in the article.

I would add that Finder needs work -- it is NOT as functional as Windows Explorer -- especially the whole drag, wait for the destination folder to pop open, drop thing. (And while we are at it, can we get rid of the odd face icon for Finder? What is that about?)
 
spunkybart said:
As a Mac convert from about a year and 1/2 ago, I would welcome both of the items mentioned in the article.

I would add that Finder needs work -- it is NOT as functional as Windows Explorer -- especially the whole drag, wait for the destination folder to pop open, drop thing. (And while we are at it, can we get rid of the odd face icon for Finder? What is that about?)
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I'll beg to differ it's not as functional. Here are some things that are different.

1. Open Windows Explorer (in Explore mode to where you have the tree view in the left pane and contents in the right pane). Expand a folder. Click a file in that folder. Now, go to the left pane and try and delete the folder. Can't be done as there is a file in use. How silly is that? Just because I have a file selected in the right pane, I can't delete the parent folder. I can also move a folder on the Mac while a file is open. Can't do that in Explorer either.

2. Open a document on the Mac. Go to the Finder and locate the file. Rename the file to something else. Now try that on Windows. Won't work.

3. Open a document in a folder on the Mac. Go to the Finder and rename the folder. Doesn't work on Windows.

Now, why would someone want to do these last two you ask. Well, maybe I don't want to do a Save As to change the file name (#2) but I think a more appropriate title is needed and I don't want to end up with 2 different files, one that I'll just get rid of. I don't need/have to close the file, then rename it. I can do it live. Similar situation with a folder.

4. Have a file open - let's say it's Volfreak_text.txt. Click Save As and navigate to the folder holding the text file, which also incudes a "Ballfreak_text.txt" file. Decide that you want to rename the "Ballfreak_text.txt" file to "Ballfreak_text2.txt" so you rename it in Windows Explorer (Save as dialog). Now you want to name the "volfreak_text.txt" to "Ballfreak_texdt.txt". Can't do it because Windows still thinks that "Ballfreak_text.txt" still exists. You have to Cancel out of the dialog and then do Save As again. This time, since "Ballfreak_text.txt" doesn't exist, you can rename the file. Why doesn't Windows check when it saves the file instead of building a list of files in the folder when you access the dialog? On a Mac, no problems.

5. On the Mac, say you want to save a file to a network share that's not currently mounted. While in the "Save" dialog in Finder, the share is not there. App-switch to the Finder and mount the share. App-switch back to the app where you're saving the document and the share will be displayed. On Windows, the list of available shares/drives are what's available when you access the save dialog. It doesn't update dynamically like the Finder does.

As to the speed of folders popping open, go to Finder. Click Preferences. Set the time for springloading to pop open a folder to the shortest time possible. It makes it almost instantaneous.

So, while each has their own plusses and minuses, I find the plusses more on the Finder than I do on Explorer. And I find more minuses on Explorer than I do on the Finder. YMMV.:)
 
Somewhat possible

dejo said:
One thing I wish Windows Explorer had that Finder does is something like "New Finder Window".
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While it's not the same, there is a way to get this. Just choose any folder in any Explorer view and right-click and choose "Explore". It will open a new Explorer window with that folder displayed in the Explore mode.
 
volfreak said:
2. printing a file from the Finder - right-click and choose print to send the selected file(s) to the printer

:)
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You can already print from the Finder, it's just not in the contextual menu (unfortunately). Just select a file, the click File > Print. It does have to open the associated program, which they might make obsolete if they integrated Quicklook's functionality with it, but it closes it again immediately (if it wasn't already open). I assigned the :apple:-P keyboard shortcut to it as it is in other programs so it's very simple to print from the Finder now.

jW
 
Mal said:
You can already print from the Finder, it's just not in the contextual menu (unfortunately). Just select a file, the click File > Print. It does have to open the associated program, which they might make obsolete if they integrated Quicklook's functionality with it, but it closes it again immediately (if it wasn't already open). I assigned the :apple:-P keyboard shortcut to it as it is in other programs so it's very simple to print from the Finder now.

jW
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That's great. I hadn't bothered to look in the File menu for this. I know when 10.0 came out, it wasn't in there and so I've never bothered to look and see if it was added back in.

Thanks!:)
 
volfreak said:
5. On the Mac, say you want to save a file to a network share that's not currently mounted. While in the "Save" dialog in Finder, the share is not there. App-switch to the Finder and mount the share. App-switch back to the app where you're saving the document and the share will be displayed. On Windows, the list of available shares/drives are what's available when you access the save dialog. It doesn't update dynamically like the Finder does.
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I like your thinking, but on this one you're actually making it more complicated than necessary (in Leopard, at least). You can simple select the shared computer from the sidebar in the Open or Save dialog box, enter password if needed (I usually have them saved because I access them often enough), and navigate to the folder where you want to save it. Never even leave the dialog box.

So, while each has their own plusses and minuses, I find the plusses more on the Finder than I do on Explorer. And I find more minuses on Explorer than I do on the Finder. YMMV.:)
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I find very few plusses to Explorer, and lots in the Finder. Lots of room for improvement, but when it's the best, I'll use it despite any flaws it still has.

jW
 
Mal said:
I like your thinking, but on this one you're actually making it more complicated than necessary (in Leopard, at least). You can simple select the shared computer from the sidebar in the Open or Save dialog box, enter password if needed (I usually have them saved because I access them often enough), and navigate to the folder where you want to save it. Never even leave the dialog box.

I find very few plusses to Explorer, and lots in the Finder. Lots of room for improvement, but when it's the best, I'll use it despite any flaws it still has.

jW
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On the first part, you're correct. Sometimes, though the only way to connect is to Cmd-K from the Finder (for instance I found, under Tiger, that Finder has trouble if there are more than 2,000 computers in the share or domain - on our Windows network, we have something like 175 domains and in one of the domains, we have almost 3,000 computers shared). In Tiger, the only way to connect to those computers was to use the Cmd-K. Leopard is much better, as you noted.

I guess I should have used that as the example more so than what I did. That's true on never having to leave the dialog.

Thanks for pointing that out.:)
 
You know, I completely forgot about the previous ability, under Classic, to print the directory contents of windows.

Yes, absolutely I think that should be returned.

That being said, however, one can obviously drop to a CLI prompt and direct a directory listing command's results to a text file, and then print that resulting text file.

What I'd really like is fhtye reversed the assignments of the "New Finder Window" and "New Folder" keyboard shortcut commands. I'm sorry, but CMD+SHIFT+N is inconsistent with CMD+O, CMD+P, CMD+DOWN-ARROW, etc., and needlessly so.
 
spunkybart said:
As a Mac convert from about a year and 1/2 ago, I would welcome both of the items mentioned in the article.

I would add that Finder needs work -- it is NOT as functional as Windows Explorer -- especially the whole drag, wait for the destination folder to pop open, drop thing. (And while we are at it, can we get rid of the odd face icon for Finder? What is that about?)
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Maybe we can get a cute little dog like the one on the XP search function.
 
dejo said:
One thing I wish Windows Explorer had that Finder does is something like "New Finder Window".
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I try to be OS agnostic, but that is one thing about windows that annoys the crap out of me, no control-n for a new window, nothing in the menu, no wonder windows users need file cut & paste.
 
ihabime said:
I try to be OS agnostic, but that is one thing about windows that annoys the crap out of me, no control-n for a new window, nothing in the menu, no wonder windows users need file cut & paste.
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I was playing around with my friends Windows 7 installation and Ctrl + N does bring up new explorer windows. Still a piece of crap tho.
 
Eric S. said:
Maybe we can get a cute little dog like the one on the XP search function.
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Maybe Apple could bring back Clarus, the DogCow, and have it go "Moof" while it searches. Of course, it would only get one or two Moofs out before the search was done. Speaking of search. Windows file searches are SO incredibly slow in Explorer. It just loops through each folder, checking its contents and then on to the next. Spotlight is SO much better (even though some of the changes in Leopard weren't positive) and WAY faster.:cool:
 
Where is QuickLook for Stacks?????

It never made sense to me that those 2 features didn't work together.
 
volfreak said:
Maybe Apple could bring back Clarus, the DogCow, and have it go "Moof" while it searches. Of course, it would only get one or two Moofs out before the search was done. Speaking of search. Windows file searches are SO incredibly slow in Explorer. It just loops through each folder, checking its contents and then on to the next. Spotlight is SO much better (even though some of the changes in Leopard weren't positive) and WAY faster.:cool:
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Let's leave the mascots to Nintendo and Sega. Spotlight rules.
 
ihabime said:
I try to be OS agnostic, but that is one thing about windows that annoys the crap out of me, no control-n for a new window, nothing in the menu, no wonder windows users need file cut & paste.
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Command (Windows Key) - E for new explorer Window.
 
Has anyone noticed Snow Leopard now calculates file and drive sizes according to SI standards? Finally now 1KB really is 1000 bytes.
 

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