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Snow Leopard Adds Minor Often Requested Tweaks: Put Back, Stack Folder Navigation
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Even on just linux, there's lots of other stuff, such as XFCE, fluxbox, etc.
What I meant is that scrolling needs to be fixed. There are currently no scroll bars, and unless you have text right on the edge so it is partially clipped off there is no other indication that there is text scrolled off the sticky. The arrows don't scroll until you get all the way to the top/bottom of the window.
I welcome these tweaks that give even more credence to "the world's most advanced OS" moniker. It's not just the little things that are going to make SL that much better, as screen shots that are circulating, as well as Apple itself allude to Quicktime PRO becoming non-existant.
Surely downloading live video feeds, converting between file types, and video editing right from Quicktime can't be considered a "dull" upgrade. It's these decisive factors that make Apple a front runner in the tech world for a reason.
Surely downloading live video feeds, converting between file types, and video editing right from Quicktime can't be considered a "dull" upgrade. It's these decisive factors that make Apple a front runner in the tech world for a reason.
It will simply blow my mind if aqua theme elements are still in 10.6.. I mean, damn. Soo frickkin ugly and out-dated. Seriously, how much effort could it possibly take to replace them all with granite elements (or whatever they're called), ala iTunes, at least? I'm talking scrollbars, buttons, checkboxes, etc. They're so out of place with the rest of the elements, that bubbly, striped neon blue is just so ugly to look at, and seems straight out of the 90s.
The first thing I do after an OSX installation is replace these files- which doesnt take long at all, and which makes me wonder why apple can't do it. For God's sakes, they better address this in 10.6 There is no reason the UI has to be uglified like this, and I shouldnt have to patch system files to get rid of that crap and make it look bearable. Let's have some damn consistency. There's so many odd UI choices, and I know that Apple can definitely do better, seeing from the iPhone UI and their newer OSX apps.
The first thing I do after an OSX installation is replace these files- which doesnt take long at all, and which makes me wonder why apple can't do it. For God's sakes, they better address this in 10.6 There is no reason the UI has to be uglified like this, and I shouldnt have to patch system files to get rid of that crap and make it look bearable. Let's have some damn consistency. There's so many odd UI choices, and I know that Apple can definitely do better, seeing from the iPhone UI and their newer OSX apps.
Yeah we werer refering to linux distros, not unix as in os x of course.
yeah but like i said what's the user base of ohter than kde or gnoe I would wager less than 0.5% like i said, kde and gnome dominate, apple should rip off the cut and paste and merge folders function from these guys as it's ripped them off countless times in other ideas and then we can all be happy.
Thats such a pain though. I have to switch to text-only file management in order to move files easily? The Worlds Most Advanced OS should have full functionality all the time.
Even so, look at file managers like Thunar. It has cut/paste. I've used many many flavors of linux and i have yet to find a file manager that doesnt cut files.
Apple please add a "add/remove" type of program to Snow Leopard, so it's easier to remove apps that have no uninstall in it's files.
Oh Yay! I'm going to love folder navigation for Stacks. 'Put Back' is long overdue too
Now if only Finder can start doing "Cut" for files...
Now if only Finder can start doing "Cut" for files...
Put back...
Not that useful in my opinion... Nice feature to have, but not that determining.
I usually empty the trash pretty often and, when I want a file back, I can still go in TimeMachine and have it exactly at the same location it was...
What I miss are some features in TimeMachine, like the ability to restore pictures or music directly from iLife or iTunes respectively, the same applies to iCal. I think more software should be "TimeMachine aware" (like Address Book is) so that I can go back from the software instead than the Finder only.
Stacks, on the other hand, look very promising, as I use them quite a lot and like the way they will be organized.
I am so happy with TimeMachine, that I rarely would use the "put back" feature. But that's just me. I'm happy if Apple gives some choice
Not that useful in my opinion... Nice feature to have, but not that determining.
I usually empty the trash pretty often and, when I want a file back, I can still go in TimeMachine and have it exactly at the same location it was...
What I miss are some features in TimeMachine, like the ability to restore pictures or music directly from iLife or iTunes respectively, the same applies to iCal. I think more software should be "TimeMachine aware" (like Address Book is) so that I can go back from the software instead than the Finder only.
Stacks, on the other hand, look very promising, as I use them quite a lot and like the way they will be organized.
I am so happy with TimeMachine, that I rarely would use the "put back" feature. But that's just me. I'm happy if Apple gives some choice
im very happy that Snow Leopard will have the "Put Back" feature as ive definately needed this after forgetting a Trashed file's original location and not pressed command-Z straight away. its a obvious feature that is definitely needed. but couldnt they call it "Restore" instead? sounds a lot better and they could add a button next to Empty in the Trash folder.
the 'drill down' Stacks feature sounds cool but i would really like the Stacks feature that was in the earlier Leopard builds to come back where you could simply highlight a group of files or applications and make a Stack out of it.
applications that you simply drop in your Applications folder dont need an uninstaller. you simply just trash it and its gone! but it will leave a plist file behind in Preferences and maybe a folder in Application Support but they dont take up much space. you can simply choose to leave or trash them.
applications that install via a package with the Installer application should provide an uninstaller within the installer package, a separate uninstaller package or instructions on how to uninstall in the disk image or on the developer's website.
the 'drill down' Stacks feature sounds cool but i would really like the Stacks feature that was in the earlier Leopard builds to come back where you could simply highlight a group of files or applications and make a Stack out of it.
applications that you simply drop in your Applications folder dont need an uninstaller. you simply just trash it and its gone!
but it will leave a plist file behind in Preferences and maybe a folder in Application Support but they dont take up much space. you can simply choose to leave or trash them.applications that install via a package with the Installer application should provide an uninstaller within the installer package, a separate uninstaller package or instructions on how to uninstall in the disk image or on the developer's website.
roll on snow leopard.... it'll probably make my quicktime pro license a bit redundant tho. Im glad its not just me whose missed the Put Back feature of OS 9 in OS X. Maybe if Apple does enough of these small tweaks, MS will have to release "Windows 8, putting all those darned small things Mac users get into Windows"
I hear you.... when i first switched to mac in 07 this bugged the heck out of me in the first week
Cutting a file is the equivalent of using the trash as a shelf. Cutting the file moves the file into the trash (metaphorically speaking), pasting it takes it out again. Nothing wrong with that, except that any copy or cut action in between would 'empty the trash'.
Even a standard cut of non-file elements (text etc.) is dangerous, any distraction before pasting (a phone call for example) and one might cut or copy something else, and whoops the original cut is gone. I've lost a off stuff due to this until I got YouControl with its pasteboard history. Without a pasteboard history cutting is very dangerous.
Or in other words, I would like to always keep an eye on things, never loose sight of it. That is why I light drag'n'drop and pasteboard histories, you can always see what you are going to paste/drop.
Even a standard cut of non-file elements (text etc.) is dangerous, any distraction before pasting (a phone call for example) and one might cut or copy something else, and whoops the original cut is gone. I've lost a off stuff due to this until I got YouControl with its pasteboard history. Without a pasteboard history cutting is very dangerous.
Or in other words, I would like to always keep an eye on things, never loose sight of it. That is why I light drag'n'drop and pasteboard histories, you can always see what you are going to paste/drop.
That was how the very very old cut and paste worked but if you have used windows at all in the last 10 years or so then this is simply not true. What happens is when you cut a file it is simply greyed out and only when you paste the file is it actually moved. If you decide in the mean time to cut anything else the original file simply ungreys itself.
When dealing with lots of folders and heiarchies drag and drop does but a bit tedious.
I enjoyed reading the earlier 'crack pot' theory on UI changes, I'd personally like to see a little more choice on the look of the OS but black buttons aren't my cup of tea.
then create a move automator/applescript and place it in the finder toolbar or as a finder plugin.
That is a built in option.
You can also use quicksilver or spark and various other programs to run a script
It may not be presented in exactly the same manner as in windows but you can get the same result
While that may be true how many people will do this? With an OS you want basic features such as this to be available without having to go around and working out various other things. Simplicity and user friendless are key for features to actually be used. Especially with new users.
It is one of the simple features that have long been missing.
Cut & Paste has its own problems
The problem I've had with cut and paste on windows is that if there's a network blip or some other problem the file can get really hosed. So, I now just copy/paste and then delete the original file. Always a lot safer, even if it's one more step. But I've been bit too many times by cutting and pasting to a network share that I don't use do it any more.
I do like the suggestions to merge file contents instead of replacing the entire folder when copying folders. It would be nice to update the files that already exist but add the new files instead of just wiping out the folder and replacing it with what's in the new folder.
Put Away is something that is very handy and I'll be glad when it's restored. There are two other things that I'd like in the Finder when it's updated:
The problem I've had with cut and paste on windows is that if there's a network blip or some other problem the file can get really hosed. So, I now just copy/paste and then delete the original file. Always a lot safer, even if it's one more step. But I've been bit too many times by cutting and pasting to a network share that I don't use do it any more.
I do like the suggestions to merge file contents instead of replacing the entire folder when copying folders. It would be nice to update the files that already exist but add the new files instead of just wiping out the folder and replacing it with what's in the new folder.
Put Away is something that is very handy and I'll be glad when it's restored. There are two other things that I'd like in the Finder when it's updated:
- printing the contents of the finder window
- printing a file from the Finder - right-click and choose print to send the selected file(s) to the printer
I beg to differ. I think the "aqua" style scroll bars and buttons are really nice. The scroll bars have a neat "overlay" type of feel to them when you drag, and the faint glowing buttons are subtle and easy on the eyes.
After seeing the granite blue scroll bars in iTunes 8, I certainly couldn't live with the entire OS looking like that. I think the granite style is a bit too plain- Aqua is where it's at.
maybe. but if you move files often enough that you need this and so deep into directories that spring folders arent enough for you (do me just fine while replacing folders in application support) then I would say you are perfectly capable to using/creating what I mentioned.
Who are the users of this feature? I dont think any of the computer novice people around me have ever asked me about this
Buddy, you go it wrong, that's the way cut works ONLY with text, with files, unless you paste it somewhere the file stays put where it was and if after cut you do anything else the file stays again, think of it as a "provisional cut", not like a text cut, the file is marked about to be moved to the where the next paste command goes, if there comes no paste command it stays put and is reverted back to as was unmarked and ready to be pasted.