Core Duo chipsets don't support 64bit, so it won't appear to be any faster for you. UNLESS it's a Core 2 duo
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Core Duo chipsets don't support 64bit, so it won't appear to be any faster for you. UNLESS it's a Core 2 duo
-Sam
You are only partially right. Yes, it is true that Core Duos don't support 64-bit computing, but Snow Leopard still has plenty of other optimizations that will benefit even these users. For example, the rewritten Finder is faster for everyone, except perhaps the really old Core Solo Intel Macs.Core Duo chipsets don't support 64bit, so it won't appear to be any faster for you. UNLESS it's a Core 2 duo
-Sam
Core Duo chipsets don't support 64bit, so it won't appear to be any faster for you. UNLESS it's a Core 2 duo
-Sam
64 bit doesn't make anything faster, it just allows you to address more data, like using more ram. (afaik, I could be wrong)
I really couldn't see Apple forcing people to upgrade instead of having the option to make a clean install. The whole "it just works" tagline doesn't go well with that. I will definitely do a clean install since I use way too many 10.5 specific tweaks and hacks.. input managers, SIMBL tweaks, 3rd party add-ons, as well as lots of more or less obscure 3rd party apps relying on 3rd party frameworks.
Good thing Tiger users aren't _forced_ to buy iWork and iLife either.
But in the end I think the most significant effect of 10.6 Snow Leopard will take a couple of months to show. Mostly I'm hoping for ffmpeg to incorporate Open CL, thus accelerating 9400M for hugely improved HD playback (using Mac mini w/Plex as a media center). Also apps utilizing GCD for a more efficent use of the CPU would be great.
Am I missing something? All I'm reading is a Snow Leopard is slightly slower and has some minor bugs. The reports of new features such as "put back," expose in the dock, and exchange support really isn't amping me up much.
Actually, 64bit brings a whole host of security features and access to extra registers as well. So when you run Safari in 64bit mode you have all the security features plus you also get (32bit Safari has this as well) - isolated plugins that are sandboxed which will hopefully 'pwn2own' victory's will be more difficult in the future.
In response to Ademius, I've found that the novelty of iLife and iWork pretty much wore off me within a few months; ever since then, when ever I install a new copy of Mac OS X, I never install iLife or iWork. Snow Leopard + CS4 Master Edition + Office 2008 = Very Happy Chap
It will be interesting whether CS5 brings complete Cocoa and not just Cocoa for Photoshop I just got a call last night from a friend asking me to come out to visit for the weekend 3 hours away and i said yes, forgetting SL comes out tomorrow.
It's FAST
I've been evaluating 10A432 for about 2 weeks on my Mac Pro 2.66 Dual Core.
New features don't comprise a long list, and for the most part are fairly subtle...but nice. By far, the greatest improvement is speed. Fast, fast, fast. Startup is fast. Shutdown is darn near immediate. And app launching is "now".
Definitely worth the $29.
I've been evaluating 10A432 for about 2 weeks on my Mac Pro 2.66 Dual Core.
New features don't comprise a long list, and for the most part are fairly subtle...but nice. By far, the greatest improvement is speed. Fast, fast, fast. Startup is fast. Shutdown is darn near immediate. And app launching is "now".
Definitely worth the $29.
it's a different compiler and newer instruction set. a lot of the problems in Windows earlier this decade were due to problems in x86 and the compilers that were available.
I'm going into my local Apple Store to get a family pack tomorrow. My dad wants me to the be guinea pig before he installs it on his Macs.
I installed Leopard the day it was released, so I'm prepared to face any bugs and incompatibilities. I love dealing with problems like that. Reminds me of the days when I used Windows.
I installed Leopard the day it was released, so I'm prepared to face any bugs and incompatibilities. I love dealing with problems like that. Reminds me of the days when I used Windows.
Been running 10.6 in beta on a test machine up until 10a432 was released. I backed up my iMac and did a fresh install using 10a432 and then reinstalled my software.
I have been running the following daily with NO crashes whatsoever.
System spec:
2008 iMac 3.06ghz 4GB Ram 500GB HDD nVidia 8800GS 512MB
WD Mybook 1TB HDD FW800
Maxtor 1 Touch 200GB FW400
Canon MP220 Printer/scanner
Software installed:
Adobe CS3 (Just Dreamweaver, Acrobat and Photoshop though)
VM Fusion (don't know what walt is running on his but mine has been bulletproof so far)
Office 2008 (you need rosetta for the installer)
Roxio Toast Titanium 10.2
Quicktime 7 Pro
iWork 09
iLife 09
Comic Life
Adium
Firefox
handbrake
Circus Ponies Notebook
Rivet (streams media to Xbox 360 & PS3)
Skype
Transmission (torrent client)
Transmit
Unison
VLC
World of Warcraft
I have been running the following daily with NO crashes whatsoever.
System spec:
2008 iMac 3.06ghz 4GB Ram 500GB HDD nVidia 8800GS 512MB
WD Mybook 1TB HDD FW800
Maxtor 1 Touch 200GB FW400
Canon MP220 Printer/scanner
Software installed:
Adobe CS3 (Just Dreamweaver, Acrobat and Photoshop though)
VM Fusion (don't know what walt is running on his but mine has been bulletproof so far)
Office 2008 (you need rosetta for the installer)
Roxio Toast Titanium 10.2
Quicktime 7 Pro
iWork 09
iLife 09
Comic Life
Adium
Firefox
handbrake
Circus Ponies Notebook
Rivet (streams media to Xbox 360 & PS3)
Skype
Transmission (torrent client)
Transmit
Unison
VLC
World of Warcraft
I'm quite sure they'll be updated in a timely manner.
Just as long as Transmission works from the get-go . . .
"But here's a tip: Apple concedes that the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade will work properly on these Tiger-equipped Macs, so you can save the extra $140."
Duh. I don't think anyone needed Walt Mossberg to tell them that. Was Apple really going to release a separate "Tiger Upgrade" with the boxed set that would somehow be different from the "Leopard Upgrade" retail installer? Apple's just trying to upsell it's own software in a completely transparent move.
Duh. I don't think anyone needed Walt Mossberg to tell them that. Was Apple really going to release a separate "Tiger Upgrade" with the boxed set that would somehow be different from the "Leopard Upgrade" retail installer? Apple's just trying to upsell it's own software in a completely transparent move.
What would be better
What would be better:
1. Migrate my current Leopard OS X & all my data to a external HD? Then, do a clean install and have a fresh computer.
2. Some How do a back up of Leopard OS X. My Time Machine wont work and I've tried everything. ANy Ideas?
What would be better:
1. Migrate my current Leopard OS X & all my data to a external HD? Then, do a clean install and have a fresh computer.
2. Some How do a back up of Leopard OS X. My Time Machine wont work and I've tried everything. ANy Ideas?
What a truly hate in snow is the change of Expose. All windows when viewed on the screen are equal in size eliminating the importance or size you have them working at. That and the dock shows,..... for what? The doc just takes up important space that could be used for the display. I can see this as a feature in prefs but not as the only choice. A big step backwards here.
Also the pointer in cs3 remains visible when using tools in PS when it should not be.
Also the pointer in cs3 remains visible when using tools in PS when it should not be.
I'll end up getting it once the .1 update is released.
That said interface wise OS X is an abomination that continues to get more convoluted with each release and bash Window all you want, but at least it's interface is consistent.
That said interface wise OS X is an abomination that continues to get more convoluted with each release and bash Window all you want, but at least it's interface is consistent.
no, but we assumed it would either check for an existing install of Leopard or ask you to insert your Leopard disk for validation
Actually, the same accusation of inconsistency can be made of Windows too - just look at IE in Vista, compared to Windows Explorer. Why, Microsoft, why? It just looks weird.
No they're not. Apple is trying to avoid shipping two separate SKUs. They knew Leopard owners would be upset if Tiger owners could get Snow Leopard for $29 also. So, they made a policy to only allow Tiger owners to purchase the Mac Box Set which is a fantastic deal by itself. You get iLife ($79), iWork ($79) and Snow Leopard ($129) for $149 (at Amazon). If your a Tiger owner, you essentially get iLife and iWork for $10 each (I guess it's $20 each if you buy the $169 bundle from Apple).
Any Battery performance Improvement?
any one tested Battery performance?
my macbook 2.0 GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, will see any performance improvement?
any one tested Battery performance?
my macbook 2.0 GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, will see any performance improvement?
I don't understand this comment.
I am a switcher 3 years now, but I remember working on apples (OS X?) in school in the early '90s and they have not changed much as far as the average user knowing where things are and such? I would say the same for windows, but when they started there photocopiers that all changed...
I don't know why, but that thought never crossed my mind. Maybe it's because Apple has a tendency to couple "easy to use" with "making extra money for itself."
As soon as I heard about the "boxed set" for Tiger users, it just immediately made sense that it was an upsell and the SL installer would work regardless of whether or not the target system was running Tiger or Leopard. Imagine someone who has never purchased Leopard for their Intel iMac buying the boxed set and running the SL installer, only to find that it borked because they didn't already have Leopard installed or asked for a Leopard DVD to validate - they'd immediately say, "what the hell? I just bought this boxed set explicitly because I didn't own Leopard."
Likewise, the mere fact that it's a "boxed set," meaning 3 separate retail installer DVDs, just seemed to me to indicate that Apple wasn't going through the hassle of having a separate run of SL installer DVDs made that had code which examined the target computer for a previous installation of Leopard and/or asked to validate for Tiger users. It would be different if they combined all the installers for iWork, iLife '09 and SL onto a single DVD or matched set of installers (like they do with the recovery DVDs that ship with your machine), but they're not.
I just got a call last night from a friend asking me to come out to visit for the weekend 3 hours away and i said yes, forgetting SL comes out tomorrow.
Friends are more important than a minor OS update...
What inconsistencies would you "fix"?
I'm looking at IE8 and Explorer in Win7. They have a lot of common elements (top border is forward/back, address, and search box), but since they accomplish different things there are difference as well.