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Mossberg's SL review is up: http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090826/apple-changes-leopards-spots/

He tested 3 Macs of various vintage but doesn't really discuss how SL treats them differently. The review is superficial in that he only discusses the superficial and "daily use" aspects, but that is to be expected since he is mostly a consumer oriented reviewer.

He final verdict is that SL is a solid update, but not a "must have," and most consumers (probably not talking to MR readers) won't notice any differences (which is true, especially if they have a machine that is 3+ years old).
Uncle Walt is typically viewed as someone who definitely knows what he's talking about but also a little too "PRO" Apple without much criticism. I think this review was written probably to show those pointing the "shill" finger at him that he is not afraid/concerned about generating any negative Apple press. I generally respect what Walt has to say, but it is no secret that he prefers Apple over Microsoft in every area.
 
I honestly haven't noticed much of a difference between Leopard and Snow Leopard in the past day of using it.
 
10.6.1

Not surprising that bugs and quirks have cropped up in the inital release of Snow Leopard. As a typical listener of Mac Break weekly podcast and MR reader, the inital release of a new OS usually comes with it's share of quirks and bugs that need ironing out.

I doubt that the majority of readers here will be dissuaded to buy the new OS right away away unless you have some mission critical tasks.

I for one will snap up SL right after i leave the office tomorrow afternoon at my nearest Apple Store.

Being the OSX rookie I am, will SL still host my HP printer and Epson scanner in the same bullet proof way that 10.5.8 does?
Never had to do a major update to X before and getting the feeling this is a dumb question to pose already!
 
But CNet says it's .. slower?

I'm totally confused by that CNET review which says "it's only a little slower than Leopard", as if they are used to every new OS being much slower. I thought SL was supposed to be faster in all but a very few cases but the speed bars they print show it slower in pretty much every one of their categories.

I know GCD and OpenCL mostly only really boost performance on apps written with them in mind (or using some of the cocoa queue operations which GCD can easily parallelize) but ... that shouldn't make things slower. This also seems at odds with the findings of the beta testers and apple's whole push for this release.

Is CNET confused?
 
I just got a call last night from a friend asking me to come out to visit for the weekend 3 hours away and i said yes, forgetting SL comes out tomorrow. :mad::mad:

Bring your Mac with you, and stop by the Apple store on the way over!

I bought my copy of Leopard at an Apple Store somewhere in North Carolina while I was travelling through there. Installed it on my Mac that night in my hotel room.
 
Multi-touch

There is also some reports out there that the muli-touch gestures, 3 and 4 finger WILL be available on Macbooks/Macbook Pro's going back as far as 2006. Basically if you have 2 finger gestures now you can get the 3 and 4 finger gestures. I will believe it when i see it though!
 
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...

What the heck is this crap about you can upgrade Tiger with it? Does the license permit it? If not, it's theft and illegal. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If he's advocating piracy he needs to be called out on it.

Do we all really want Apple to start with draconian license enforcement like Microsoft does? :(
 
Are you guys going to force it to boot into 64 bit mode? I think I read about someone using the GM who said if you start it up holding the 6 and 4 keys it will go into that mode and applications were launching much faster. I wonder if the speed tests that CNET did saying it was slower were in the 32 or 64 bit mode.

Is there anything "dangerous" about forcing it to boot into 64 bit mode?
 
Are you guys going to force it to boot into 64 bit mode? I think I read about someone using the GM who said if you start it up holding the 6 and 4 keys it will go into that mode and applications were launching much faster. I wonder if the speed tests that CNET did saying it was slower were in the 32 or 64 bit mode.

Is there anything "dangerous" about forcing it to boot into 64 bit mode?

if it was dangerous the option wouldn't be built into the OS
 
I think this review was written probably to show those pointing the "shill" finger at him that he is not afraid/concerned about generating any negative Apple press.

Or *shocker* Snow Leopard doesn't knock his socks off. Of course, it's not really supposed to either.
 
There is also some reports out there that the muli-touch gestures, 3 and 4 finger WILL be available on Macbooks/Macbook Pro's going back as far as 2006. Basically if you have 2 finger gestures now you can get the 3 and 4 finger gestures. I will believe it when i see it though!

This is not true. On my 2007 MacBook, the only multi-touch is two-finger scrolling, even with Snow Leopard. So I'm told. ;)
 
It's part of that whole "we trust our customers" mentality.

Lol - FALSE.

It's part of the whole "we-have-billions-of-f*ing-dollars-and-don't-care-about-a-few-million-bucks-especially-if-it-gives-us-a-good-reputation-so-that-people-keep-coming-back-to-give-us-more-billions" mentality.


=]
 
From Macworld's review of the abomination that is Quicktime X (a huge step backwards there Apple...kind of like how when you 'improved' iMovie)

"It’s a nice interface if you’re running in full-screen mode, but it’s an utter disaster otherwise"

"Now here comes this strange QuickTime window, unbounded by any sort of frame, playing off on its own. It looks, quite frankly, like a mistake."

Which comes full circle to why OS X with each new iteration gets worse and worse when it comes to interface consistency!
 
and a new MacBook Pro laptop Apple lent me for testing with Snow Leopard pre-installed.
Wow, this Mossberg must be really good for their stock. =P

I want what SL focuses on - speed and efficiency - so this is going to find a home with me.
 
There is also some reports out there that the muli-touch gestures, 3 and 4 finger WILL be available on Macbooks/Macbook Pro's going back as far as 2006. Basically if you have 2 finger gestures now you can get the 3 and 4 finger gestures. I will believe it when i see it though!

This is not true. On my 2007 MacBook, the only multi-touch is two-finger scrolling, even with Snow Leopard. So I'm told. ;)

Have you tested it on a final release of SL? I tested the Developer Preview on my 2007 Macbook Pro and it didn't work either, but there was also several other SL features missing from that release too.
 
Have you tested it on a final release of SL? I tested the Developer Preview on my 2007 Macbook Pro and it didn't work either, but there was also several other SL features missing from that release too.

I have tried it on the final release. I looked for those options in System Preferences. Now, I'm not the most adept geek in the world, so I'll admit if I'm wrong.
 
I can't help but get the impression that it's just a service pack. I don't really see anything that's worth getting REALLY excited over, or anything really different. :/
 
There is also some reports out there that the muli-touch gestures, 3 and 4 finger WILL be available on Macbooks/Macbook Pro's going back as far as 2006. Basically if you have 2 finger gestures now you can get the 3 and 4 finger gestures. I will believe it when i see it though!

If I recall correctly, these 3 and 4 finger gestures were merely a software tweak and didn't rely on any special hardware. I remember people downloading hacks on the first MB (only two finger gestures) to make it function like the newer MB whose 3 and 4 finger gestures were touted as newer exclusive features.
 
Have you tested it on a final release of SL? I tested the Developer Preview on my 2007 Macbook Pro and it didn't work either, but there was also several other SL features missing from that release too.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that my core duo 06 macbook doesn't have 3 or 4 finger gestures, but then again I don't believe that it is supposed to be getting them with SL, I believe the rev A. macbook air will be getting the gestures but I'm not sure about what other models. Also so far SL seems very stable, the only third party software that I use that doesn't work seems to be afloat and PlugSuit, as well as SRS iWOW but I'm sure in a couple of weeks that will be addressed with updates. For those that use 1password there is a beta that you can sign up for the 3.0 release. Other than that so far so good, I haven't really experienced any bugs and it does seem to be a little quicker than Leopard was.
 
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