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Snow Leopard to Bring Unifying 'Marble' User Interface?
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M$ stuff sure as hell isnt cheap! (other than my beloved 360). Their software is outrageously expensive!
remember kiddies Microsoft != PC makers.
Regarding the costs, if you have honest comparisons (surely there're other threads on this) with exact same specs hardwares (some people only compare the processor speed but not the front side bus and the fsb to processor ratio, or the ram - DDR3 vs DDR2), you definitely cannot include the words "far more" in your statements.
Even with the exact same specs, the hardware architecture are differently built - interconnections of components, on board thermal management etc. which all determines what efficiency your hardware specs could run at.
Obviously, the Mac hardwares are built with attention to details and run at higher efficiency of the hardware specs' potential (as been benchmarked). it is the value vs price ratio you need to compare, not just a broad term "cost" without an insight of what you really are getting.
As for the copying, it's a simple "Spot the difference" game when you compare the 2005 version of OS X (Tiger) with Vista and Win 7. It's a no brainer who roll out the features first that people are "wow-ing" now over Win 7. (let's all pretend vista never existed for now) E.g. common share library, journal/index file system, or the GUI such as dock, press one key to show the desktop, to all the shortcut keystrokes winkey + spacebar, etc... to name but a few.
Um, how about the three buttons on the top corner of your windows? The hide/minimize, zoom/maximize, close/exit trio? Microsoft was using that since Windows 95, while Macs were still running System 7. This was a key identifying UI element of Windows 95 and was made possible because of the taskbar. And guess what, OS X rips both the button trio and taskbar from Windows.
And how about Alt-Tab? Task manager?
Anyone who thinks Macs are the best and Microsoft copied everything from Apple is an idiot fanboy.
I would absolutely love a mobilme-like interface for everything:
Every osx upgrade so far has had some kind of gui tweak, i just hop apple goes with the dark smoke colored buttons, which they might seeing as they are moving away from the candy-like feel.
That looks a lot like Windows Vista (think WMP11 and Explorer).
Geez, why so defensive? I was asking for examples, never having used Windows until about a year ago. Thanks for supplying some.
WMP11 is gorgeous, so i wouldnt mind that at all
Though WMP is a bit more blue than the mobileme theme.
iMovie '08/'09's GUI is also very dark. I have been wondering for a while if this GUI will succeed the iTunes 7 one.
I wonder if i'm the only one who's happy enough with the os,looks wise,the way it is....
Meh i will be looking into stability,speed and resource management in Snow leopard and certainly not looks...Well,ok i would want for it to be a "good looking" OS but give me all that stuff and you can have the looks
Meh i will be looking into stability,speed and resource management in Snow leopard and certainly not looks...Well,ok i would want for it to be a "good looking" OS but give me all that stuff and you can have the looks
Anyone done or fancy doing some mockups?
Oooooh, i didnt even think of this. I might if i have a few minutes and im bored. Though it would probably just end up being the same thing as the MobileMe theme mockups at macthemes.
MS did 'borrow' from Apple a lot. Even before Win95. Use the Google before you choose to bash.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_6
System 6 introduced cooperative multitasking via Switcher as written by Andy Hertzfield. System 6 was released in 1988. Yes, that is 1988. 7 years before Win95.
System 6 had two buttons on each window menu bar:
Close window and a max/min button. The max/min button acted like a switch - same button click to max then click to min. They were NOT in the same corner, however which is why in 10.x they are grouped in the upper left(most folks on a mac closed windows and not min/max as a day to day operation) wherein Windows had them in the upper right after system 6.
THis is System 6.0.8:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Finder608.png
I ran a Mac Classic for years on S6/7 until the CRT was damaged. Always booted, never crashed. It was a good machine and it did things that Windows just couldn't touch at the time.
One frustrating aspect of that time in history is that the file standards that we have today - JPEG/PNG etc and disk formats were just not there yet. IT was very tedious and often fruitless to try to swap images/files between the two systems.
WMP11 is gorgeous, so i wouldnt mind that at all
Though WMP is a bit more blue than the mobileme theme.
Which song is selected to play?
The page is soo busy, I cannot tell...?
I think it's that teeny space in the bottom-left corner, that has enough room to show four characters.
The first song in the first album is green, indicating that its playing. Also, the fact that it is playing and you would thus be able to hear it might be an indication to what you are listening to.
So you're disagreeing that the window is significantly busier than iTunes. And it's not as easy to tell at a glance what song is playing. What if you were scrolling? Would you be able to see the green? What if you didn't know the song? (Yeah, some people don't know every track in our libraries, some people have more than ten gigs of music
)
When did i say that?
I also never said that...
No.
I have bout 30 gigs of music and can name every song just by hearing it. Im a musician though, so i might be a bit obsessive about that.What if you didn't know the song? (Yeah, some people don't know every track in our libraries, some people have more than ten gigs of music
Im not here to defend WMP, i just said i like the way it looks. Looks dont necessarily means its a great interface though. Look at Cog:
Its not very pretty, but its by far the easiest to use, imo, and thats why i use it. That and the fact that it syncs to a folder, something no other iTunes music player can seem to figure out.
Why dont you just calm down a bit, nobody is here to attack your precious iTunes, so relax.
When did i say that?
I also never said that...
No.
I have bout 30 gigs of music and can name every song just by hearing it. Im a musician though, so i might be a bit obsessive about that.
Im not here to defend WMP, i just said i like the way it looks. Looks dont necessarily means its a great interface though. Look at Cog:
Its not very pretty, but its by far the easiest to use, imo, and thats why i use it. That and the fact that it syncs to a folder, something no other iTunes music player can seem to figure out.
Why dont you just calm down a bit, nobody is here to attack your precious iTunes, so relax.
I have 29.70 gigs and couldn't tell you what each track is (A lot of it is electronic though). It's stupid of you to defend a music player just because it isn't iTunes and even dumber if you need to rely on your knowledge of each song just to identify what's playing.
EDIT: You also have a very nice collection of music! Modest Mouse, MSI, NIN, Sigur Ros, Floyd and the Faint are all some of my favorites. However, if you go from K to V in just 12 Artists then I seriously doubt you have 30GB of music. Unless that counts movies, and huge music videos.
When did i say that?
I also never said that...
No.
I have bout 30 gigs of music and can name every song just by hearing it. Im a musician though, so i might be a bit obsessive about that.
Im not here to defend WMP, i just said i like the way it looks. Looks dont necessarily means its a great interface though. Look at Cog:
Its not very pretty, but its by far the easiest to use, imo, and thats why i use it. That and the fact that it syncs to a folder, something no other iTunes music player can seem to figure out.
Why dont you just calm down a bit, nobody is here to attack your precious iTunes, so relax.
I wasn't attacking WMP, just stated an opinion that the current song playing wasn't obvious to me.
Last year I download nearly 700 free songs from the South by SouthWest conference. I am still learning the artists and music as each song is from different artist. Visual clues augment aural ones. But again, my opinion.
No.
Me too. It is ok with me. I have never focused on the GUI unless it has gotten in the way. Like, for example, the "New Hardware" installed with XP every time you pop in a USB thumbdrive.
A popup for New Hardware detected. Pop up for the name of the hardware. Pop up to let you know the hardware is available for use.
Good idea, bad implementation.
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Originally Posted by miketcool
Apple really should be aware that Marble can be quarried in ways that aren't environmentally sustainable. Depending on the quarry, Marble can also contain high levels of radon as well. They really should stick to highly polished metals or possibly Corian.
Is he being sarcastic? You bet he is! This baby's off the charts!
Originally Posted by miketcool
Apple really should be aware that Marble can be quarried in ways that aren't environmentally sustainable. Depending on the quarry, Marble can also contain high levels of radon as well. They really should stick to highly polished metals or possibly Corian.
Is he being sarcastic? You bet he is! This baby's off the charts!
