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While I like the full look of aqua (eg Tiger, not the hybrid Leopard), I can see how some professionals wouldn't like the shiney, plastic look.
Choice in this case is good, even if its just between Aqua or Marble.
 
Aqua is starting to look dated compared with the likes of the iPhone interface and Windows 7. It needs to be updated for Snow Leopard.

Windows 7 lol? You gotta be kidding me. That UI is horrible looking. The icons, the whole look and feel are just terrible. It doesn't look very professional to me at all. Does Microsoft have graphic designers working on it at all?
 
Excellent Question

Can anyone tell me why you can't simply choose your own colour scheme/theme in OS/X?
Is there something wrong with being able to choose whatever colour you like for your menubar, etc., as you can in Windows?

This is an excellent question. My personal opinion would be to let the user decide if they want Aqua as the default UI look or Marble or (as someone else said) Corian or whatever.

That said, Apple likes control of things to a pretty good extent - your system will look this way...and that is why you will not be able to choose something else if Apple decides to give everyone whatever Marble is for Snow Leopard.
 
Windows 7 lol? You gotta be kidding me. That UI is horrible looking. The icons, the whole look and feel are just terrible. It doesn't look very professional to me at all. Does Microsoft have graphic designers working on it at all?

Windows 7 is building up a head of steam in the preview markets and on TV news bulletins. I suspect this may actually provide some real competition for OS X
 
These are idiots talking. Fitting to content is only as useful if the content remains stable... which is usually NEVER the case unless it's a static document which is also very vague because most images are zoomable... most text documents are multi-page.

There is really no argument for maximizing to content vs fully using the entire screen other than people's personal opinions.

One argument for the zooming document is so that you can see documents behind the main document so it is easier to compare / copy paste items to those documents. This may have been the case 10 years ago, but with alt tab, and more importantly expose, it is no longer needed.

The facts are that maximizing to desktop allows the most surface area to be used and focused on the application at hand. With alt tab and expose and spaces Apple has all but removed the function of the zoom button by creating vastly superior solutions.

What I'd like to see next is fullscreen mode in ALL work related applications. Pages is a great start, the fullscreen mode is a huge improvement to focusing your writing.

I hope for Snow Leopard they remove the zoom button and introduce a maximize button (with animation if they wanted to) and then introduce a third button for fullscreen mode to replace the capsule on the right top part of the window.

YES! YES! Please! Fullscreen mode is must for pro-apps! More single window apps!! A properly working maximize! maximize to content is totally useless. The OS X has a tendency to become a huge window-clutter monster, Ihope Apple comes up with something the makes the UI much more streamlined and consistent. And please let the user have more control over colour scheme...

-Tomi
 
finally here comes the interface change that we have been waiting for so long

hope they have a few more surprises for us too cant wait to see what they are and how snow leopard performs :D:D
 
The knee-jerk blind defense some of you people have to Apple's way of doing things is amazing to me sometimes. It's okay to have thoughts and opinions of your own, You can respect, or use, or enjoy some one/thing without turning a blind eye to every flaw.

This is why choices are a good thing, it takes all kinds to make a world. We all use osx for different reasons. Some are Developers, Some are photographers, Some are just users, Some are UNIX admins. Each may have a different preference..

"resize to fit" is one of the most retarded features I've seen.
A) How many times have you seen it resize wrong and not fit the content? I've seen this happen in safari plenty of times.

B) not all content has a "size". I open iTerm and I have a standard 80x25 window and I hit maximize and it stretches vertically. Why? I wanted it full screen not 80x73. What the ****? What about an email? What exactly is the predetermined width of some random text only email supposed to be?

There's also no consistency here with this "resize to fit". I open slashdot right now and I manually resize the window to have very little width and I hit "resize to fit" and I get a very long window that fits the content pretty well. Then I manually drag the window in to a very wide shape, short height but very long width and I hit the very same "resize to fit" button and now I have a fullscreen Safari. Why? Shouldn't the same button on the same application displaying the same content be consistent?

I can see why some of you would like this, That's why I was saying I'm a big fan of CHOICES. Why can't we just toggle the functionality of this? Why can't we pick the silver theme in settings but then change the color? It would be trivial. What if I don't like silver? This isn't some major overhaul that's going to take time away from giving you people more retarded transition effects when you open up time machine or whatever it is you want..

I like OSX, but it's far from perfect. I use it exclusively as my desktop oriented OS, yet at the same time I still have actual opinions of my own and unwilling to swallow every load they want to bust in my mouth.

I agree 100%. I hated the Zoom function on OS X, it's the most inconsistent feature ever. Also it's a pain in the butt resizing windows in OS X, you can only resize from one corner.

Sometimes you just want to block out the crap on your desktop and other windows, while still keeping the menubar and all your toolbars.
 
I agree 100%. I hated the Zoom function on OS X, it's the most inconsistent feature ever. Also it's a pain in the butt resizing windows in OS X, you can only resize from one corner.

Sometimes you just want to block out the crap on your desktop and other windows, while still keeping the menubar and all your toolbars.

Most inconsistent feature ever? Explain, because sounds like BS so far.
 
I agree 100%. I hated the Zoom function on OS X, it's the most inconsistent feature ever. Also it's a pain in the butt resizing windows in OS X, you can only resize from one corner.

Sometimes you just want to block out the crap on your desktop and other windows, while still keeping the menubar and all your toolbars.

The button is fit to size, meaning when u click it the application opens up a window to the size it needs. The "inconsistancy" you speak of is just the fact that different programs use different size windows.
 
The button is fit to size, meaning when u click it the application opens up a window to the size it needs. The "inconsistancy" you speak of is just the fact that different programs use different size windows.

Not quite. It is very inconsistent.
For example, with some apps you get maximize (keynote, iPhoto) and some you get the fit size (Safari, Address Book) yet others you get something entirely different (iTunes, Calculator).

The iTunes and Calculator zoom button is especially confusing, as it transforms the app itself.

I'm not complaining of the button, in fact I never use it and I really wouldn't mind if in Leopard they got rid of the minimize and zoom buttons as they are pretty useless.
 
Don't change a thing

I really like the current interface. If anything continue to bring everything up to the iTunes standard. Do not make 3rd party developers change again, I don't want to wait another year to get my computer interface attractive.
 
I really like the current interface. If anything continue to bring everything up to the iTunes standard. Do not make 3rd party developers change again, I don't want to wait another year to get my computer interface attractive.

I would rather everything move to the pro app interface. Mmmmmmn Aperture.
 
I would absolutely love a mobilme-like interface for everything:
mail_gallery_1_20080711.jpg

Every osx upgrade so far has had some kind of gui tweak, i just hop apple goes with the dark smoke colored buttons, which they might seeing as they are moving away from the candy-like feel.
 
After years of licking Aqua, I think I've finally developed diabetes. I'm all for the marble.
 
finally here comes the interface change that we have been waiting for so long

hope they have a few more surprises for us too cant wait to see what they are and how snow leopard performs :D:D

Maybe, just maybe, we'd see the 3D desktop interface which the Apple patent was published not too long ago?

With Windows 7 stealing a lot of the good ideas from the 2005 version of OS X (Tiger), most notably common shared library, and shortcut keys UI, expose and dock and so on. Surely Apple has something good in store for Snow Leopard to put it another few years ahead of Microsoft. I mean at the casual user to power user level.

Of course at the professional level, Snow Leopard has OpenCL and Grand Central :apple: already that Windows 8 or 9 still needs to match / copy!
 
I would absolutely love a mobilme-like interface for everything:
mail_gallery_1_20080711.jpg

Every osx upgrade so far has had some kind of gui tweak, i just hop apple goes with the dark smoke colored buttons, which they might seeing as they are moving away from the candy-like feel.

Absolutely!! The black gradient (similar to the trademark Steve Jobs (now Phil) keynote presentation background) is slick and professional!

Let's hope it happens - I think it's quite likely!! Like many have said speculating from the iWork slight tweak of GUI, most notably when you create a new document in Pages from the template chooser - the black background and elimination of any border / menu bar, and when you've clicked on a template to select it, the template zoom in (scale up) and become the document.

All for OS X core animation!! (Has Windows copied, sorry i mean "made",
something similar to the core animation framwork?)

Just as Win 7 thinks it is cool and is copying the candy look of Mac, Mac says the eye-candy was cool but we are stylishly slick now!
 
Absolutely!! The black gradient (similar to the trademark Steve Jobs (now Phil) keynote presentation background) is slick and professional!

Let's hope it happens - I think it's quite likely!! Like many have said speculating from the iWork slight tweak of GUI, most notably when you create a new document in Pages from the template chooser - the black background and elimination of any border / menu bar, and when you've clicked on a template to select it, the template zoom in (scale up) and become the document.

All for OS X core animation!! (Has Windows copied, sorry i mean "made",
something similar to the core animation framwork?)

Just as Win 7 thinks it is cool and is copying the candy look of Mac, Mac says the eye-candy was cool but we are stylishly slick now!

I was agreeing with you until you went all 'elitist fanboy' on me and started poking at MS. This discussion has nothing to do with them yet the fanboys always need to pick at them every chance they get...
 
Care to explain?

Microsoft makes crappy products and they constantly copy Apple's innovations. They deserve to be laughed at. My girlfriend just got a new MacBook to replace her Windows-Piece-of-Crap computer.
 
Microsoft makes crappy products and they constantly copy Apple's innovations. They deserve to be laughed at. My girlfriend just got a new MacBook to replace her Windows-Piece-of-Crap computer.

People like you make me want to get violent. You are such a fanboy that you are too blinded to see that Apple copies just as many ideas from MS as MS does from Apple. The worst thing about this is the Apple misses out on copying the best features of windows while MS copies the best parts of osx.
Get your head out of Job's bum and stop being a fanboy.
 
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