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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?

CmdrLaForge said:
Does it make sense to find out at which age the cards are usually failing and what computers are impacted most ? Are those mainly the SR units ?
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Yes but I've asked this question in this thread and no one could provide an answer. I consider myself an average user was problem free for ~2yrs before my GPU crapped out. I thought I was one of the lucky problem free ones... nope.

My GPU has been recently replaced and is now defect free. So I hope that there is a relationship to age.
 
Hi guys,
On july 4th the MBP finally gave out. The graphics became totally corrupt, the screen started flashing, artifacts and tearing came on. Tried to restart the machine but it wouldn't make it to leopard most of the time... when it it artifacted and froze. Some times we got the message displayed on the pic.

We called the applecare guys, they setup an appointment for the genius bar over at woodfield mall (on the 4th which was amazing to me). We took it in mentioned the symptoms, the tech ran a little program and confirmed it was the GPU. They were going to order the part and replace the logic board... We also had a problem with the lcd screen in which it had a big bright spot in the middle of the screen when we bought it but didn't want to be without the MBP so we lived with it... but they'll be replacing the screen too.

My question: the tech said the data on our drive would be ok because the repair was going to be taking place at the apple store (woodfield mall) and they would only physically replace the logic board and the screen. They wouldn't have mess around with the software. Is that true ?
If it isn't we already gave them the laptop but should we go back and see if they can open the MBP take the drive out and back it up somehow ? We run everything on PCs except all the creative designs are done on her MBP and unfortunately she never ended up backing up her files.

I was going to open the MBP take the drive out and see if I could ghost it but I didn't want to take a chance of them voiding the warranty because of it.

(another forum member suggested I post the info here too)
 

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My MBP (Early 2008) started showing some symptoms 2 days ago and I took it to an AASP today. I was told they were going to perform some tests.
From what I have read, Apple is replacing the faulty 8600M GT with more faulty 8600MGT. Can anyone clear this out for me? Is this really true?

I was told Apple is replacing the logic board with a "Rev.2" logic board which also has faulty 8600M GT and it's a matter of pure luck because no one can tell if it's going to fail eventually. Shouldn't Apple be replacing the entire MacBook Pro with a new one? Isn't this only a matter of time till our repaired Mac shows this issues once again?

Thanks for your help!
 
My MBP just had its logic board replaced. Had it just over 2 years. Applecare took care of it and had everything running in 5 days. All the data was still in tact. But I did have to re authorize the iTunes and mobile me.
 
AUGUST 2008 MBP 3,1. mine died on the 4th too. and no applecare so anyone with a brain could figure that my week is trashed like my mbp..... . fried logic board costs 335ish not including labor/tax/shipping.... just ordered a new mbp....

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LIFE SUCKS!:mad: NOT EVEN MY FAULT!
 
pedroL said:
My MBP (Early 2008) started showing some symptoms 2 days ago and I took it to an AASP today. I was told they were going to perform some tests.
From what I have read, Apple is replacing the faulty 8600M GT with more faulty 8600MGT. Can anyone clear this out for me? Is this really true?

I was told Apple is replacing the logic board with a "Rev.2" logic board which also has faulty 8600M GT and it's a matter of pure luck because no one can tell if it's going to fail eventually. Shouldn't Apple be replacing the entire MacBook Pro with a new one? Isn't this only a matter of time till our repaired Mac shows this issues once again?

Thanks for your help!
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Sorry but no one's been able to answer this...
 
phooi said:
Sorry but no one's been able to answer this...
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I was afraid of that... :(
I sincerely hope that Apple comes with a REAL solution for their costumers in a recent future! This warranty extention is just a way to calm down their costumers without actually providing a solution.

Thanks for your reply phooi.
 
Reading deeper into this issue... we did notice that after the new smc 1.3 fan update the MBP was quieter. Meaning when it would normally be blasting the fans it was just a quiet hum instead of the tornado we were used to.

Apple released the update to kill all the bad 8600 to get some cash out of Nvidia?

What is the warranty on the replacement logic board ? I have less than a year left of AppleCare (june 2010).
 
mainomega said:
Reading deeper into this issue... we did notice that after the new smc 1.3 fan update the MBP was quieter. Meaning when it would normally be blasting the fans it was just a quiet hum instead of the tornado we were used to.

Apple released the update to kill all the bad 8600 to get some cash out of Nvidia?

What is the warranty on the replacement logic board ? I have less than a year left of AppleCare (june 2010).
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The warranty on the video card is three years from the date of purchase.
 
mainomega said:
Apple released the update to kill all the bad 8600 to get some cash out of Nvidia?
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I was told something like that by an AASP technician.
Not that the update was intended to get some cash out of NVIDIA, but that the update was intended to accelerate the 8600M GT issues.
Why? I have no idea...
 
pedroL said:
I was afraid of that... :(
I sincerely hope that Apple comes with a REAL solution for their costumers in a recent future! This warranty extention is just a way to calm down their costumers without actually providing a solution.

Thanks for your reply phooi.
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You're welcome. The only consolation is that Apple has changed their support documents to include the following:

"...Apple will continue to evaluate the repair data and will provide further repair extensions as needed."

Hopefully that means it will extend beyond the 3 years listed in their support document.

mainomega said:
Reading deeper into this issue... we did notice that after the new smc 1.3 fan update the MBP was quieter. Meaning when it would normally be blasting the fans it was just a quiet hum instead of the tornado we were used to.

Apple released the update to kill all the bad 8600 to get some cash out of Nvidia?

What is the warranty on the replacement logic board ? I have less than a year left of AppleCare (june 2010).
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I don't think a replacement MLB resets the warranty so I would guess that in your case it will be June 2010. You do have a few options:

1. Sell your MBP now.
2. You can try to burn out the GPU again and try to get Apple to issue a replacement.
3. See my response above and hope Apple will continue to replace the MLB free of charge assuming it is another GPU failure, post Applecare that is.
 
....aaaand we're at page 71 of this fabulous thread.

I just sent my macbook pro in for applecare repairs for unrelated issues and low and behold they replaced the logic board! i guess somehow they can tell that there is an imminent failure looming.

An alternate possibility is that they finally have replacements that will not fail. Are there any others out there who have had unsolicited logic board replacements from applecare?
 
Mine has not failed yet, knock on wood, what are your build weeks for those that have failed- if you recall? Seems like there might be pattern by now.
 
My 15" Macbook Pro's 8600 died last week (bought July 2007). It had been perfectly fine until the screen didn't display anything upon being brought back from sleep on July 2. I used screen sharing to do a backup with Time Machine (hadn't done that in weeks), then brought it into the the Oakbrook Terrace Apple store on Friday (July 3), and got it back yesterday. They said they replaced it with a revision 2 logic board, and that the problem shouldn't crop up again. I don't know if I believe that, so I guess we'll see.
 
DoNoHarm said:
....aaaand we're at page 71 of this fabulous thread.

I just sent my macbook pro in for applecare repairs for unrelated issues and low and behold they replaced the logic board! i guess somehow they can tell that there is an imminent failure looming.

An alternate possibility is that they finally have replacements that will not fail. Are there any others out there who have had unsolicited logic board replacements from applecare?
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It just shows you how much of a problem this 8600 problem really is. It is unconscionable (not blaming Apple) that we should all live with a time bomb EVEN after it has been repaired.

I'm just hoping someone from Apple will comment on whether the latest GPU replacements (the infamous "revision 2") have solved the problem so I can get on with enjoying my MBP.
 
ghostchild said:
SONOFA___________ now i have to go back.... idiots... and i just spent a couple thousand on a new mbp. !!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
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Actually, since you said your machine is August 2008, shouldn't it still be covered under the standard 1 year warranty? It's still July!
 
CmdrLaForge said:
Just to make sure - I assume as well on an external display ?

Cheers
LaForge
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Yes, since external displays are driven by the video card, they won't show anything either. In fact, this is one way to confirm it's your video card and not just your screen if you don't get anything on an external display either.
 
this is for all nvidia 8#00 cards...which pretty much ruined a whole generation of laptops(if you wanted to buy a used one the choices become thin since so many had these). to make it far worse, there was never a fix for it. i called up a tech in which this was confirmed. i guess it's cheaper to keep replacing it with another defective one since it takes about a year for it to die. nvidia deserves credit for best support in linux drivers, but they sure messed up with the 8#00 line.
 
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