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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?

John89 said:
Dear god my screen just started flashing yellow :(
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Driver issue not hardware issue

Speaking of which i'm just praying the 9600m doesn't suffer the same defect since its practically the same chip as the 8600 but this has me worried

I'm gonna start using the 9600m exclusively now to see if it chokes in the future...good thing i have AppleCare this time

If this issue happens again i seriously won't buy another Apple/Nvidia product ever again.

*Switches on the 9600m chip*
 
daneoni said:
Driver issue not hardware issue

Speaking of which i'm just praying the 9600m doesn't suffer the same defect since its practically the same chip as the 8600 but this has me worried

I'm gonna start using the 9600m exclusively now to see if it chokes in the future...good thing i have AppleCare this time

If this issue happens again i seriously won't buy another Apple/Nvidia product ever again.

*Switches on the 9600m chip*
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That's a good article! Add this more recent one and it paints an ugly picture of Nvidia. So if the 9600 breaks in a computer, would you still be able to run solely from the 9400 or is the whole computer still out of commission?
 
cjacks68 said:
That's a good article! Add this more recent one and it paints an ugly picture of Nvidia. So if the 9600 breaks in a computer, would you still be able to run solely from the 9400 or is the whole computer still out of commission?
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You should be able to logically, the problem is actually being able to switch the cards seeing as you won't be able to see anything on screen clearly so navigating to that preference pane might prove tricky
 
Well, These failures are really annoying.
My 2.2 MBP failed for the 2nd time now. Will be sending it in on Saturday.

Also my sisters 2.4 just came back from repair due to the same problem with the 8600 gpu dying on her.

Come on apple, is there any fix to this? Or will I have to keep sending it in to get my laptop life extended 1 year at a time.

I am fine with sending it in, but how has Nvidia/Apple gone to address this manufacturing fault?
 
Suggested solution...

Here's a better suggestion for Apple in dealing with the 8600 affected machines: Why don't you replace these time-bombs with new MacBook Pros? Or at least give a serious rebate on purchasing new ones? Or something? Anything?
This machine hasn't come close to upholding the reputation Steve Jobs and company have worked towards for decades. The extension of the warranty is nice, but it still means the machine will probably burn itself out again soon after it's expired.
For a student like me, it means I'll still be paying off this computer long after the GPU melts it to death. That's not why I paid for an Apple. And if I'm left holding an expensive brick I can't use, why would I ever replace it with the same brand?

BTW, 2.4 SR MacBook Pro with 256 8600m GT card... I took it in to get service today. Aside from the obvious graphics issue, my Superdrive doesn't read DVD-R discs anymore, blank or otherwise. Also my battery gets about 45 minutes now. But I'm guessing these other problems "are not related to" the graphics card, and won't be repaired. I'll post what happens.
 
solution?

Yeah everyone would want a new machine but there's just no way that can happen consider the scale.

We're all bummed out about the defective replacement cards. For some reason they stated the bad 8600s don't impact the machines made October and after.

Don't see how that's possible but that's the position that's been taken.
 
Romanesq said:
Yeah everyone would want a new machine but there's just no way that can happen consider the scale.

We're all bummed out about the defective replacement cards. For some reason they stated the bad 8600s don't impact the machines made October and after.

Don't see how that's possible but that's the position that's been taken.
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what year ?
 
If that was the case, that would include all Penryn MBP's, right? (introduced February 2008.)

But I don't think that's the case, IIRC there are Penryn owners that had bad GPU's.

I have a Penryn from April 2008, not sure what my chances are.
 
madmaxmedia said:
If that was the case, that would include all Penryn MBP's, right? (introduced February 2008.)

But I don't think that's the case, IIRC there are Penryn owners that had bad GPU's.

I have a Penryn from April 2008, not sure what my chances are.
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My Penryn 2.4ghz died last month, which was also an early April '08 make.

If you have a 8600M GT it's gonna die, theres just no escaping it.
 
What do most of you plan to do? Do you plan to keep replacing the faulty card or sell your MBP for a new one?
 
daneoni said:
Driver issue not hardware issue

Speaking of which i'm just praying the 9600m doesn't suffer the same defect since its practically the same chip as the 8600 but this has me worried

I'm gonna start using the 9600m exclusively now to see if it chokes in the future...good thing i have AppleCare this time

If this issue happens again i seriously won't buy another Apple/Nvidia product ever again.

*Switches on the 9600m chip*
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I highly doubt that the NVIDIA 9600M GT has the same issue. By the release of the 9600M, NVIDIA knew exactly what damage it would do to have two failures in a row. As a result, I'm certain they looked into the card to ensure the same problem would not occur again. Additionally, the machines have been out for nearly 9 months now and there have been no widespread failures. I think it's safe to say they're okay.
 
Romanesq said:
Yeah everyone would want a new machine but there's just no way that can happen consider the scale.

We're all bummed out about the defective replacement cards. For some reason they stated the bad 8600s don't impact the machines made October and after.

Don't see how that's possible but that's the position that's been taken.
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Apple says the affected models were manufactured between May 2007 and September 2008. That covers two models of MBP's, namely the 2.2/2.4 SR chipsets and the Penryn models, both with the 8600 GPU's. October 2008 is when the uMBP's came out with the new GPU, the 9400/9600. So that's why after October 2008 the machines are not affected. It does not mean that if you got your Logic Board replaced after October 2008 your machine will not be affected again, as there are several people in that category. Apple is simply referring to the MBP's with the 8600 GPU in them. Apple stopped making the MBP's with the 8600 in September 2008, that's it.
 
packgrad2000 said:
Apple says the affected models were manufactured between May 2007 and September 2008. That covers two models of MBP's, namely the 2.2/2.4 SR chipsets and the Penryn models, both with the 8600 GPU's. October 2008 is when the uMBP's came out with the new GPU, the 9400/9600. So that's why after October 2008 the machines are not affected. It does not mean that if you got your Logic Board replaced after October 2008 your machine will not be affected again, as there are several people in that category. Apple is simply referring to the MBP's with the 8600 GPU in them. Apple stopped making the MBP's with the 8600 in September 2008, that's it.
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if that were the case, wouldn't they say "machines with the 8600 GPU"? Giving the date range seems to indicate a temporary problem.
 
Skull21 said:
What do most of you plan to do? Do you plan to keep replacing the faulty card or sell your MBP for a new one?
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Well, I cannot afford a new machine and honestly my SR is a fine machine despite its flaws that Apple has really done very little to fix."ELP" typing issue is worse than ever, yet in Win XP typing just works.Same with WiFi low strength and dropouts, same machine on XP full bars and no drop outs what so ever.The obvious vid card fiasco, while its great that Apple has 3 years so far as a fix period.I buy for 5 years at a time or when tech is too good to ignore.I use my express card with various interfaces daily, the only way to get that now is the 17", I highly doubt Apple would kick me down one if my laptop decides to go south.This whole debacle has truly soured me with Apple, a pro laptop with enough issues that if it was a car would be deemed a lemon:mad:
 
CmdrLaForge said:
what year ?
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ghostchild said:
2007
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Romanesq said:
2008. But they only made a few then as they were moving to the new black keyboard ones. Never had any confidence in it but mine is in the end batch.

We're all doomed.
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Hmmm. Thanks for the answers. But now I know as much as before. I have two machines that might be affected. One 17" Macbook Pro from June 2007 and one 15" Macbook Pro from October 2008 - by October 2008 the problem was long known and I assumed they had enough time to fix it. Apparently not.
 
The worst part of this whole thread

People, the worst part of this thread is the fact that this entire thread is about a problem that was created by Nvidia, not Apple. If it weren't for this graphics card issue, I'd venture to say that for several reasons, the MBP Classic is a superior machine to the current crop of Macbook "Pro's".

I love my MBP Classic and I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens with the graphics. Hats off to Apple for replacing it for three years and replacing the computer if there are multiple issues.
 
DoNoHarm said:
People, the worst part of this thread is the fact that this entire thread is about a problem that was created by Nvidia, not Apple. If it weren't for this graphics card issue, I'd venture to say that for several reasons, the MBP Classic is a superior machine to the current crop of Macbook "Pro's".

I love my MBP Classic and I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens with the graphics. Hats off to Apple for replacing it for three years and replacing the computer if there are multiple issues.
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I wouldn't even care that much if we could be assured that a replacement motherboard would have a good GPU (too bad that doesn't seem to be the case.) I really like my MBP, and have desire to swap for the conceivable future.
 
madmaxmedia said:
I wouldn't even care that much if we could be assured that a replacement motherboard would have a good GPU (too bad that doesn't seem to be the case.) I really like my MBP, and have desire to swap for the conceivable future.
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I suspect that even though Apple is saying three years, they'll replace it after three years. Or at least give a voucher to a new mac for a few hundred bucks. Their brand name is worth too much.
 
DoNoHarm said:
I suspect that even though Apple is saying three years, they'll replace it after three years. Or at least give a voucher to a new mac for a few hundred bucks. Their brand name is worth too much.
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I was wondering the same thing- if they might still help people after the 3 years are up.

OTOH, who am I kidding, the GPU warranty on mine will last until April 2011. By that time my MBP will seem very quaint with only 2 cores and 4GB RAM.
 
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