So, are we expecting for the iPad Pro 2 on November or next spring?

[Wahlstrm]

The reality is that the 12,9" hardware is still 3? years ahead of the software..
Good for longevity but kinda sad and boring to have all that hardware and not many PRO-apps.
I think it´s hard for Apple to find a reason to update the 12,9" when theres basically still no apps for it..
If it where a great success and we had 100´s of PRO apps then there might be somethings to talk about and show some graphs.. But introducing the iPad PRO2 with "Safari is now 10% more snappy" as the main feature don´t make sense on such an expensive device.

Seems like 2017 is the year that the 12,9" will become the dream machine for me

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=593471880827660

 

[Night Spring]

better battery life

Really? What would you consider good enough battery life -- 12 hours, 15, 20?

 

[oldmacs]

Really? What would you consider good enough battery life -- 12 hours, 15, 20?

Better battery life is always appreciated. I used to get a good 20 hours out of my iPad, I know battery life went down with the Air and Air 2, not sure what its like in the 9.7 inch pro, but I see battery as something which can always be improved.

 

[M. Gustave]

Perhaps reading your posts, it sounds more like you want the iPad to be one of these:

Nope. Remember, I'm not the one complaining endlessly about the iPad in its current state. For me it's already a productivity device, not a kids toy.

 

[oldmacs]

Nope. Remember, I'm not the one complaining endlessly about the iPad in its current state. For me it's already a productivity device, not a kids toy.

mm yes, endlessly = a couple of forum posts. I'm glad for you, but you are not the model for everyone else's iPad usage. And if changes that other's want can be implemented without impacting upon your usage than I don't see the issue.

If nobody was ever dissatisfied with the iPad... we'd have a machine much like the iPad 1... and iPhone OS 3.4 on the iPad...

 

[sracer]

I'm personally of the opinion both 9.7 and 12.9 iPP will get a late Fall refresh,

the 9.7 iPP's user base, though a good product, (imo, gut feeling of course) is going to get iPad 3 hosed,

LOL people keep saying that even though that actually one happened once and hasn't happened since. Some strain to claim that Apple producing a 256GB model of the 12.9 iPad Pro 4.5 months after it debuted was an "iPad 3 hosing".

After watching WWDC, I'm beginning to change my opinion about there NOT being a refresh this Fall. iOS 10 will be making greater use of 3D touch and any device NOT having 3D touch will be at a disadvantage. I think there is a greater possibility of a Fall refresh that will add 3D touch.

Apple spent (in my opinion) a disproportionate amount of time on iMessage and emjois. I think it is because there are other capabilities added to iOS 10 that either (A) not quite ready and might not be ready later this year and/or (B) announcing those capabilities would reveal what the next hardware updates/changes will be.

 

[masotime]

Looking forward to

• Minor refresh of the 9.7" iPad Pro to 4GB RAM + 29W Fast charging + USB 3 speeds
• Minor refresh of the 12.9" iPad Pro with True Tone + 12MP Camera + Pink Rose Gold

 

[joeblow7777]

LOL! I love it when other try to tell me what I am doing wrong in my business. You have no idea what I am doing and yet feel that you know better. Yep, this is the McRumors forum for sure.

Dude, you see how those sentences ended in question marks? They were legitimate questions. I wasn't telling you anything. I was seriously asking because smartphone cameras generally match or surpass tablets, and have the convenience of fitting in your pocket, but dedicated cameras still take better pictures. So I'm seriously wondering what advantage a tablet offers as a camera.

Why would I be telling you how to conduct your business? No need to be so defensive.

 

[Wahlstrm]

Really? What would you consider good enough battery life -- 12 hours, 15, 20?

Apples battery life is accurate for stuff like browsing the web and handling emails..
"10h of battery life" ≈ 4h in real life creative work load and 12,9" then takes like 5h? to charge back up again..

If 10 really was 10 then I think we would all be very happy

 

[mountain]

I don't think there will be an iPad Pro update.

 

[M. Gustave]

Apples battery life is accurate for stuff like browsing the web and handling emails..
"10h of battery life" ≈ 4h in real life creative work load and 12,9" then takes like 5h? to charge back up again..

If 10 really was 10 then I think we would all be very happy

I'm sorry but you're wrong. When sites like cnet and gizmodo, etc, do reviews, they run the battery down looping videos and stuff like that. And I can't recall a single review ever getting 1/2 the battery life that Apple stated.

Do you have a link to one?

 

[drewjonn]

LOL! I love it when other try to tell me what I am doing wrong in my business. You have no idea what I am doing and yet feel that you know better. Yep, this is the McRumors forum for sure.

Yep. Butthurt spotted.

 

[Wahlstrm]

I'm sorry but you're wrong. When sites like cnet and gizmodo, etc, do reviews, they run the battery down looping videos and stuff like that. And I can't recall a single review ever getting 1/2 the battery life that Apple stated.

Do you have a link to one?

If you have a job where all you do is watch "videos and stuff" then good for you, but most of us don't have that luxury..

I've used alot of Apple-stuff over the last decade and battery is never better than 40-50% of The original claim when you accually push it a bit. 10h in safari is about 3-4h in Photoshop on a Mac. And according to relevant tests it's obvious that The iPad Pro 12,9" is no different, with a battery life of around 4h when pushed a bit.

Link:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9766/the-apple-ipad-pro-review/7

 

[M. Gustave]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9766/the-apple-ipad-pro-review/7

I guess you just skimmed the article? They clearly are not calling their test typical use:

"...we can start by looking at Basemark OS II, which is basically a CPU power virus that can be used to examine the upper bound for device TDP, in addition to nominal sustained CPU load."

So to you, redlining a CPU to test device TDP is normal use?

Back in reality, Apple claims 10 hours of wifi 'web surfing', anandtech got 10.5. Apple claims 9 hours of 4G/LTE surfing, anandtech got 9.7. And in my experience, using Office, surfing, writing emails, listening to music match those numbers very closely. Apple is known for its conservative battery ratings.

 

[Basic75]

I had an iPad 3 from day one and RAM was never an issue.

The iPad 3 was crippled by its processor, which is why it only lasted a few months before being replaced.
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I'm sorry but you're wrong. When sites like cnet and gizmodo, etc, do reviews, they run the battery down looping videos and stuff like that. And I can't recall a single review ever getting 1/2 the battery life that Apple stated.

Do you have any idea how optimised video playback is? The CPU is hardly doing anything, the decoding is done by a specialised and very energy efficient unit in the GPU. Once you start using serious productivity apps, or playing games, the battery is drained rather quickly.

 

[M. Gustave]

Once you start using serious productivity apps, or playing games, the battery is drained rather quickly.

I use "serious productivity apps", and I get the rated battery life. And where does Apple give a battery rating for "playing games"? I must have missed that on the tech specs page.

 

[sracer]

I use "serious productivity apps", and I get the rated battery life. And where does Apple give a battery rating for "playing games"? I must have missed that on the tech specs page.

Don't waste your time. There are many things about Apple to complain about, but as you correctly pointed out, actual battery life living up to advertised battery life is not one of them. If someone's experience differs greatly from the "norm" they either their usage is out of the norm or they have a defective unit.

 

[jamesrick80]

I use "serious productivity apps", and I get the rated battery life. And where does Apple give a battery rating for "playing games"? I must have missed that on the tech specs page.

I don't think there are serious productivity apps on the iPad Pro...what's so serious about them...Windows 10 has those lol

 

[spesifikbrush]

I am thinking to get an iPad Pro 9.7 this July. Even though they release a new model, I think current model will last at least 2 years for me, or even more (didn't use an Apple product more than 6 months). I'm only buying it to play media and make art with it. No need to wait since I need it so much.

 

[pdpmojo]

I've got the 12.9 IP, I love being able to switch between apps and games without anything reloading. Can't do that on my air 2.

That's the real world benefit of double ram.

 

[oldmacs]

I've got the 12.9 IP, I love being able to switch between apps and games without anything reloading. Can't do that on my air 2.

That's the real world benefit of double ram.

This is why I'm waiting for a new 9.7 inch Pro Or, another brand of tablet depending on things. If they put out an Air 3 (With 4GB of ram and an A10/whatever the 9.7 inch Pro gets) I'd get that instead. I don't intend buying the keyboard or Apple Pencil.
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I am thinking to get an iPad Pro 9.7 this July. Even though they release a new model, I think current model will last at least 2 years for me, or even more (didn't use an Apple product more than 6 months). I'm only buying it to play media and make art with it. No need to wait since I need it so much.

Yeah you'll definitely get 2 years out of it. When I talk about longevity, I mean 5 years +. Even the worst iPads have gotten through 2 years (iPad 1, iPad 3 and to a lesser extent the iPad Air 1).

 

[M. Gustave]

I've got the 12.9 IP, I love being able to switch between apps and games without anything reloading. Can't do that on my air 2.

That's the real world benefit of double ram.

I think that was a Safari/iOS optimization problem, not specifically a lack of RAM, although perhaps more RAM masked it.

My iPad Air 1 hasn't had any reloading in a long time.

 

[oldmacs]

I think that was a Safari/iOS optimization problem, not specifically a lack of RAM, although perhaps more RAM masked it.

My iPad Air 1 hasn't had any reloading in a long time.

Its fairly well established that the reloading issues are predominately down to lack of RAM, mixed possibly with some poor optimisation. The Air 1 should never have been released with 1GB of ram. The reloading issue is still there.

 

[Adolmino100]

the ipad pro 2 updates should be more ram and better processor as usual , but i'd like better battery life as well , but i guess they'll stick to the 10 hours as usual too!

 

[oldmacs]

the ipad pro 2 updates should be more ram and better processor as usual , but i'd like better battery life as well , but i guess they'll stick to the 10 hours as usual too!

I'd take more battery life as well... The iPad 2 and 4 had great battery life, and the Air 1 and Air 2 went down hill - of course both get to 10 hours, but the iPad 2 could get to 20 hours and my sister still drags over 20 hours out of her iPad 4. I believe the Pro 9.7 is better than the iPad Air 2, but whether it matches the iPad 2 or iPad 4 is unknown to me..