So, are we expecting for the iPad Pro 2 on November or next spring?

[NICKXXXXXX]

You can open zip files with Goodreader, I believe. And you can add your ripped music files by syncing with the desktop iTunes, or stream by joining Apple Music, Spotify, or Google Play, and matching/uploading your songs.

You are telling me to do something I don't wanna have to do? If I have to sync with the desktop iTunes that means i'll have to have a desktop computer right? I don't want that! I just want an iPad that can do the same thing as my desktop computer. And I'm already have Apple Music but like half my library of music is not on apple music.

1. Assuming that you're not referring to anything illegal, "torrenting" is not "BASIC STUFF". The vast majority of people don't "torrent" - it's a non-traditional form of file transfer that isn't intuitive for casual media consumption by non-techies.
2. Use Documents or FileBrowser to download and manage files.
3. Use nPlayer or Infuse to play almost any format of third-party music / movies without going through iTunes.

I don't see why torrenting wouldn't be referred to as a basic thing. At least here in Sweden it's very common... Everyone does it. For e.g. tv shows like Gotham or The Flash. They don't air those shows in Sweden. unless I wanna hope and wait for it to ever come to Netflix i'll have to torrent it. I won't be able to torrent it and watch it on my iPad.

Also on point 2. For e.g. if i wanna download this free album http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/big-k-r-i-t-return-of-4-eva-mixtape.11136.html I can't on my iPad just press download and it goes straight to my iTunes and sync with iCloud so that i also get it on my phone. Also talking about iTunes. I can't edit the tracks in the iTunes on iPad either.

 

[drewjonn]

Lol this is getting out of hand.

 

[M. Gustave]

And I'm already have Apple Music but like half my library of music is not on apple music.

Please start a new thread in the Apple Music/ApplePay forum, and we can answer it there. It's off topic here.

 

[drewjonn]

I'd appreciate your very little bit of a help, but I think it's over.

The ONLY reason I created this thread was to hear your opinions about the 2nd generation iPad Pro's probability and its release date, nothing more.

I was literally not expecting this thread to turn into spam field, discussing your very own ideal RAM size, torrents, streaming movies and music, or whatso****ever.

I respond to every thread with respect without aligning their topics to nowhere the OP is not trying to find out, thus, I keep receiving emails regarding this thread just to find out people arguing about something way way beyond the topic I started. I would be pleased if a moderator would just shut this thread down as I believe at least half of the posts contain informations I don't give a crap about. Huh, sorry if I do sound harsh, not trying to be a jerk, but I don't see enough people appreciating the topic I started here.

I literally have no idea how to find people's sense of respect here. I mean, why not start a proper new thread for your needs?

 

[NICKXXXXXX]

Please start a new thread in the Apple Music/ApplePay forum, and we can answer it there. It's off topic here.

No need. There is nothing to answer.

 

[M. Gustave]

I would be pleased if a moderator would just shut this thread down as I believe at least half of the posts contain informations I don't give a crap about. Huh, sorry if I sound harsh, not trying to be a jerk, but I don't see enough people appreciating me here.

I literally have no idea how to find people's sense of respect here.

It's a public forum, and people aren't always going to stick to what you consider to be the topic. Human conversations veer in all sorts of directions. I guess you're not much fun at a dinner party.

Locking threads is censorship, period.

 

[drewjonn]

But specific forums for specific topics?

 

[masotime]

I keep receiving emails regarding this thread just to find out people arguing about something way way beyond the topic I started.

Just below the poll displayed on this thread, there should be a link saying "Unwatch Thread". Click it.

 

[drewjonn]

It's a public forum, and people aren't always going to stick to what you consider to be the topic. Human conversations veer in all sorts of directions. I guess you're not much fun at a dinner party.

Locking threads is censorship, period.

Got mine locked once before receiving even a respond.

 

[drewjonn]

It's a public forum, and people aren't always going to stick to what you consider to be the topic. Human conversations veer in all sorts of directions. I guess you're not much fun at a dinner party.

Locking threads is censorship, period.

There are tons of misleading informations instead of a few, and you think it's fine? Someone is looking for specific information and instead what you do was sway the topic to nowhere near. Instead of calling me boring or whatever it is, why don't you just look back at how many spams did happen on my topic, and consider yourselves lacking respect and sense of rule following. I understand that conversations don't have to stay solely on a straight line, but to turn it 180 degrees is obviously a different thing.

The last time I saw someone got his thread down just for posting "not enough" words, I think posting irrelevant informations should receive the same handling.

Guess I have to mention it once again, but there are various sections in the whole forum for each topic, I see no reason for spamming someone else's thread when you can obtain more informations on the right place.
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Just below the poll displayed on this thread, there should be a link saying "Unwatch Thread". Click it.

I'm supposed to give up my own thread for wanting to know only what I'm asking?

 

[cube]

Looking forward to a 13" discount.

 

[masotime]

I'm supposed to give up my own thread for wanting to know only what I'm asking?

While I can sympathize with your distress, you don't own this forum. Asking a question on the public Internet means that you're subjecting yourself to opinions and digressions of all kinds. No one has the automatic entitlement to censor and regulate responses to anything public they post - this is true even in the real world where people will take what you say in public and interpret / respond to it as they like.

If you think this place is bad, you should try going to Reddit.

You simply have to learn how to deal with it. It's the nature of the Internet, and indeed, human nature in general. You're free to restrict and make demands of people in your own house, but on the public streets, as long as it is not against the law (read: "forum rules" here), you can't really do much about it.

 

[Night Spring]

I think part of the reason why this thread has gotten so off topic is that there isn't much to be said in response to the OP's question. Will the next iPad be released in fall or spring? Nobody knows, and there isn't any information or rumors we can use as basis for speculation, either.

 

[Tycho24]

Its less likely to last as long. The iPad 2's cutting edge GPU, CPU and doubling the ram on its processor have all been major reasons for its longevity - it had the 'top of the line' specs in every way. The Pro 9.7 has the GPU and CPU, but its missing the RAM, instead using 2GB - from 2014. It will not last as long as the Pro 12.9.

For the price hike over what i paid for my iPad 2, it should be able to last longer and I doubt it will.

Omg, you're a specs whore!
Just get the 12.9" already and stop crying please.
You are OBVIOUSLY not anything more than a very, very casual user- or a "6 years" game plan would be off the table... you just feel like whining at your perceived slight by Apple in not providing 4gb in their 9.7" offering. You are grasping at straws & it's really silly.
The occasional facebooking that you do now will NOT require 4gb of RAM, even in 5 years, k?

Side note:
My guess on the iPad release is that they are going to try to do like with the iPad Air 2 --> iPad Pro 9.7", & go 18 months now between cycles, instead of 12.

 

[macfacts]

I'm guessing next year because there are other Apple hardware (monitors, normal ipad, iphone, mbp, iwatch) that are older and are probably going to be updated before the ipad pro 12" model.

 

[oldmacs]

Omg, you're a specs whore!
Just get the 12.9" already and stop crying please.
You are OBVIOUSLY not anything more than a very, very casual user- or a "6 years" game plan would be off the table... you just feel like whining at your perceived slight by Apple in not providing 4gb in their 9.7" offering. You are grasping at straws & it's really silly.
The occasional facebooking that you do now will NOT require 4gb of RAM, even in 5 years, k?

Side note:
My guess on the iPad release is that they are going to try to do like with the iPad Air 2 --> iPad Pro 9.7", & go 18 months now between cycles, instead of 12.

Wow, way to go with the presumptions.

I am a lot more than a casual user, I use my iPad for web browsing, email, photo editing, book reading, website development, movie making, music production amongst many other things. My use of my iPad has dropped off in recent years as my iPad 2 has struggled to keep up. Don't tell me how I use my own iPad.

I do not use my iPad for 'Occasional facebooking'.

I am a user who does not have a lot of money to frequently replace my iPad and thus will put up with slowness, like I have on my iPad 2. You're the sort of person who would have been saying the exact same thing years ago with the iPad 1 - "You don't need more than 256MB of ram for casual use". Had Apple put 256MB of ram in the iPad 2 it wouldn't have lasted very well at all. 512MB was great back in 2011, but now its a huge limit, and thats what 2GB will be in 2021, I'd much rather have 4GB.

When you don't have money available for frequent device updates, you have to buy something that will last, and that means buying the best specs in the places that matter, and the Pro 9.7 has a great processor and GPU, but misses out on the Ram. Any iPad with 2GB of ram is not going to last the distance, as by 2021, 2GB of ram is going to be quite limiting, having been good for 2014 and fairly meh for 2016. Sounds like you have the money to drop on a device when you need it, thats good for you, but realise that we are all different and have different circumstances.

The only reason the 9.7 inch iPad Pro has 2GB of ram is down to Apple's greediness. It does not improve the user experience. I don't see how this is the consumers fault at all, but go on, blame the customer for Apple withholding specs. I do not want a giant iPad, they are too big and heavy, I simply want Apple to actually justify putting up the price on the iPad Pro 9.7 and labelling it as a pro device, by giving it the best specifications.

 

[Tommy c]

I'm still waiting for Facebook to give me a native iPad Pro app. I'm always wanting the next update if I can get it.

 

[M. Gustave]

...as by 2021, 2GB of ram is going to be quite limiting...

So your whole post is RAM might limit the iPP 9.7 performance, five years from now? So Apple is greedy and sucks (as usual). LOL.

 

[oldmacs]

So your whole post is RAM might limit the iPP 9.7 performance, five years from now? So Apple is greedy and sucks (as usual). LOL.

2GB will limit the iPad Pro down the road, it would be naive to think otherwise. The choice to keep the 9.7 'Pro' with 2GB of ram is about keeping costs down.

Oh apple is perfect in everything and the iPad is the most perfect device (as usual). LOL.

 

[sracer]

2GB will limit the iPad Pro down the road, it would be naive to think otherwise. The choice to keep the 9.7 'Pro' with 2GB of ram is about keeping costs down.

I generally agree. Historically, the significant milestones for iPads has been RAM. I have only purchased the generations of iPads that were the first to increase the RAM over their predecessors...
iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 4, iPad Air 2, iPad Pro 12.9.

The clock starts ticking when that first generation is released. The 2GB RAM started Oct 2014 with the release of the Air 2. That's nearly 2 years in to the lifespan of that tier. The 4GB RAM clock started ticking last Oct. (wow nearly a year has passed already!)

But that's not the whole story. Apple is extending the effective life of iPads. They're spreading out the updates from a 1 year cycle to 1.5-2 years. That might extend even further. So buying a 2GB RAM iPad nearly 2 years in to the cycle is not as serious (buying late into the RAM cycle) as it would've been 3-4 years ago. If that makes any sense.

Personally, if I was in the market for a 9.7 iPad now, if I didn't need Pencil support, I would easily choose the Air 2 over the 9.7 Pro.

 

[oldmacs]

I generally agree. Historically, the significant milestones for iPads has been RAM. I have only purchased the generations of iPads that were the first to increase the RAM over their predecessors...
iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 4, iPad Air 2, iPad Pro 12.9.

The clock starts ticking when that first generation is released. The 2GB RAM started Oct 2014 with the release of the Air 2. That's nearly 2 years in to the lifespan of that tier. The 4GB RAM clock started ticking last Oct. (wow nearly a year has passed already!)

But that's not the whole story. Apple is extending the effective life of iPads. They're spreading out the updates from a 1 year cycle to 1.5-2 years. That might extend even further. So buying a 2GB RAM iPad nearly 2 years in to the cycle is not as serious (buying late into the RAM cycle) as it would've been 3-4 years ago. If that makes any sense.

Personally, if I was in the market for a 9.7 iPad now, if I didn't need Pencil support, I would easily choose the Air 2 over the 9.7 Pro.

You share my view exactly.. I like the idea of the ticking clock on RAM. iPads are sealed units so for me it means buying only iPads that last forever, and thats why I bought the iPad 2 and am waiting for a new one with 4GB of ram. I know the upgrade cycles are stretched out but I just can't justify buying into the 2GB cycle so late. I recently did a clean install on my iPad 2 and didn't restore from a backup which has been quite good, I'm using it so much more than I have fora while, so it'll carry me til next year

 

[M. Gustave]

2GB will limit the iPad Pro down the road, it would be naive to think otherwise. The choice to keep the 9.7 'Pro' with 2GB of ram is about keeping costs down.

Oh apple is perfect in everything and the iPad is the most perfect device (as usual). LOL.

Oh I'm disappointed you didn't paste your favorite "If it was up to people like you we'd still have the iPad 1" reply.

 

[oldmacs]

Oh I'm disappointed you didn't paste your favorite "If it was up to people like you we'd still have the iPad 1" reply.

What from the one or two times I said that? It does hold true though maybe not for you, but for people who oppose the adding of any new feature because the iPad is a 'perfect work tool' would have us on the iPad 1.