So are we seriously gonna start browsing the phone while showering??? [MERGED]

[ovo6]

iPhone have the same screen so how
We gonna touch the screen when the screen is wet

 

[Steve686]

iPhone have the same screen so how
We gonna touch the screen when the screen is wet

You can touch the screen when wet but it wont work well just like the watch.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Good lord. In Apple's own language, not Walmart's.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205000

Well none of those watches on the wal-mart website are actually waterproof either. They are water resistant.

But its the language that people commonly use that I'm highlighting.

There are two realms; The technical definition, and the common language definition thats used out IRL.

On the hierarchy of validity of language, IRL use supersedes technical jargon. The realm of language is analogous to the US government, and the technical definition is analogous to state laws. You can make your own rules within your world but you cant deny the validity of the main laws and constitution.

All the words in the history of language that have evolved have done so just because they were used IRL. No other reason.

The same is true here with waterproof and water resistant being interchangeable as per the rules of linguistics.

 

[perkedel]

Anyway excited about opportunity to listed to music or podcasts in the shower? Can also use the front camera to help shave in the shower. No more foggy mirrors!

I'm expecting to see some risque bathroom selfie now on facebook and instagram!

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Heat creates a molecular reaction on whatever it touches. Ever go from an air conditioned room to outside while it's hot and humid? Condensation has a way of getting into many things.

Condensation in a shower can degrade the water resisting properties of any electronic device. Did I say 'way more intense'?

The Genius Bar confirmed water damage and the only time my Watch got wet was during showering. Assuming I didn't use my heroin needle to inject water inside the watch, showering is where the water ingressed.

Yeah I just read the part where it says not to use it in a sauna or steam room.

But there is a huge difference between a sauna and a shower area. For me in my bathroom it takes forever for even the mirrors to fog up, and thats at the ceiling level, while my phone is down at knee level.

Condensation rises.

Where is the middle ground and the limit.

 

[willmtaylor]

Heres a common link to an instance where you can see the term used in pop culture.

Wal Mart "Waterproof" watches has its own section. https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/waterproof-watches

The term "water resistant" was actually only used more recently in the history of our language due to legal reasons cropping up over time.

Back in the day people used to say waterproof exclusively when referring to anything from watches to raincoats.

The term water resistant is actually very young.

So for you to act like people cant say waterproof interchangeably with water resistant is innacurate.

Nothing new to say, huh? I've already addressed your excuses. I'm done here.

How have I not blocked you yet?

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Nothing new to say, huh? I've already addressed your excuses. I'm done here.

How have I not blocked you yet?

I dunno.

I have intellectually defeated you so many times over the years...

I guess maybe you secretly like getting proved wrong by me lul so you keep coming back for more 😉

 

[willmtaylor]

I dunno.

I have intellectually defeated you so many times over the years...

I guess maybe you secretly like getting proved wrong by me lul so you keep coming back for more 😉

Yeah...that's it....🙄😎

Coming from the guy with such classic threads as:

• Jet Black was a trap
• So are we seriously gonna start browsing the phone while showering
• PRSI threads about Hillary &Trump's health in the wasteland
• Referring to do not disturb as "having the moon on"
• To the folks who think 5.5 is too big please just try it and give it a chance
• I have a million dollar app idea. I need help though
• Lol at the people who don't have the pleasure of having the white 5
• Because of her weight it's a joy taking the iPhone 5 out of my pocket.

 

[Steviejobz]

I think you guys misunderstood. I'm not holding the phone in the stream. It's going to at about eye level on a shelf. It's possible some mist could come in contact but in no way will be subject to heavy pressure.

 

[Steve686]

Well none of those watches on the wal-mart website are actually waterproof either. They are water resistant.

But its the language that people commonly use that I'm highlighting.

There are two realms; The technical definition, and the common language definition thats used out IRL.

On the hierarchy of validity of language, IRL use supersedes technical jargon. The realm of language is analogous to the US government, and the technical definition is analogous to state laws. You can make your own rules within your world but you cant deny the validity of the main laws and constitution.

All the words in the history of language that have evolved have done so just because they were used IRL. No other reason.

The same is true here with waterproof and water resistant being interchangeable as per the rules of linguistics.

Last I checked, this whole forum and this thread pertain to Apple Products. Not pop culture or slang. Give up the futile defense of the English language being interchangeable. It has no merit when you go to the genius bar crying, "But my phone is supposed to be warerproof!"

 

[imanidiot]

If you read a post about someone really, actually asking about taking their phone into the shower with them, then it must be macrumors. I swear that the overall IQ of this place has diminished exponentially since Apple made the transition from a company which (mostly) makes computers, to one which (mostly) makes toys. Good Grief.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Last I checked, this whole forum and this thread pertain to Apple Products. Not pop culture or slang. Give up the futile defense of the English language being interchangeable. It has no merit when you go to the genius bar crying, "But my phone is supposed to be warerproof!"

It's 1992, a kid just got a new watch that can go underwater and is showing it to his friends. What is he more likely to say:

1) check it out my watch is waterproof
2) check it out my watch is water resistant

Pick one. Be honest.

 

[Steve686]

Yeah I just read the part where it says not to use it in a sauna or steam room.

But there is a huge difference between a sauna and a shower area. For me in my bathroom it takes forever for even the mirrors to fog up, and thats at the ceiling level, while my phone is down at knee level.

Condensation rises.

Where is the middle ground and the limit.

So you hold your wrist by the mirror while you shower? Brilliant.

Considering you may shower like normal people with a shower curtain that contain the hot moisture in an enclosed space, it's hard to believe that a watch or phone would be subject to the same safety as your mirror.

Please elaborate on the 'huge' difference between a hot shower and a sauna.
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It's 1992, a kid just got a new watch that can go underwater and is showing it to his friends. What is he more likely to say:

1) check it out my watch is waterproof
2) check it out my watch is water resistant

Pick one. Be honest.

Just quit.

Has absolutely nothing to do with Apple products.

 

[AppleB]

By reading Apple's guidelines on water resistance. It's not a permanent condition. The heat from the phone can probably affect the seals to a certain extent. Showering with it could possibly accelerate wear of the seals like steam from a hot shower.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

So you hold your wrist by the mirror while you shower? Brilliant.

Considering you may shower like normal people with a shower curtain that contain the hot moisture in an enclosed space, it's hard to believe that a watch or phone would be subject to the same safety as your mirror.

Please elaborate on the 'huge' difference between a hot shower and a sauna.
[doublepost=1473533766][/doublepost]
Just quit.

Has absolutely nothing to do with Apple products.

That's what I'm asking. Because I have had my iPhone's on the counter playing music for years in the bathroom while showering. Nothing ever happened once.

This was before ipx7
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By reading Apple's guidelines on water resistance. It's not a permanent condition. The heat from the phone can probably affect the seals to a certain extent. Showering with it could possibly accelerate wear of the seals like steam from a hot shower.

Yeah but to what degree do the seals wear and degrade?

They are more sensitive to soap and chemicals. How much so from steam?

Are we talking a 3 month degradation or 3 years?

 

[Steve686]

That's what I'm asking. Because I have had my iPhone's on the counter playing music for years in the bathroom while showering. Nothing ever happened once.

This was before ipx7
[doublepost=1473533949][/doublepost]

Yeah but to what degree do the seals wear and degrade?

They are more sensitive to soap and chemicals. How much so from steam?

Are we talking a 3 month degradation or 3 years?

There is a factor of evaporation that inhibits the collection of condensation on the circuitry.

The tight fit of the chips and boards on thed9ORFQaGiPhones help keep water from ingress ingressing too much as well.

I've had I phones fail and display "this accessory not supported" purely by the Heat and humidity here in South Florida. The circuits corroded and erroneously detected a device plugged in.

Temperature, pressure, altitude, combination of chemicals and device quality all affect the longevity of the resistance to damage.

 

[AppleB]

That's what I'm asking. Because I have had my iPhone's on the counter playing music for years in the bathroom while showering. Nothing ever happened once.

This was before ipx7
[doublepost=1473533949][/doublepost]

Yeah but to what degree do the seals wear and degrade?

They are more sensitive to soap and chemicals. How much so from steam?

Are we talking a 3 month degradation or 3 years?

Who knows.
I believe it's best to follow their guidelines concerning water resistance.
If shower moisture exposure overtime produces the same effects as liquid damage there could be a problem.

Look at it this way having your phone in the shower vs someone never having it in the shower increases your exposure to moisture by a great deal if you were to shower with it daily.

 

[OH!MAC™]

IOS 10.1.2 will bring showererability to the iPhone 7 and 7+.

 

[ucfgrad93]

The iPhone's water resistance is meant for ..

• getting caught in the rain
• wet hands
• a quick dunk in the sink, toilet, pool, puddle or the like

It's not meant to shower with, go swimming, shoot underwater videos or things like that.

Agreed, it is meant for accidents not for constant exposure.

Or you could, ya know, spend $10-$30 on a fog free mirror on Amazon and not risk your $700-$900 electronics device for such a menial task.

But whatever you want to do. Not my circus; not my monkeys.

Agreed.

 

[willmtaylor]

IOS 10.1.2 will bring showererability to the iPhone 7 and 7+.

There will be a switch within Accessability settings. That way users can toggle setting on/off.

 

[onepoint]

If you read a post about someone really, actually asking about taking their phone into the shower with them, then it must be macrumors. I swear that the overall IQ of this place has diminished exponentially since Apple made the transition from a company which (mostly) makes computers, to one which (mostly) makes toys. Good Grief.

Name checks out. Thanks for your contribution.

 

[Floris]

IOS 10.1.2 will bring showererability to the iPhone 7 and 7+.

But they will show courage by introducing this innovating feature with removing the lightning port.

 

[lordofthereef]

Who knows.
I believe it's best to follow their guidelines concerning water resistance.
If shower moisture exposure overtime produces the same effects as liquid damage there could be a problem.

Look at it this way having your phone in the shower vs someone never having it in the shower increases your exposure to moisture by a great deal if you were to shower with it daily.

When something is rated water resistant it is essentially s pressure rating. It needs to withstand water pressure over a certain depth over a period of time to receive the rating.

Unless there is a failure of seals, humidity is ever going to reach a point where that pressure is anywhere near met. Your shower isn't likely to either unless you have some sort of crazy high pressure nozzle or something.

That said I can't imagine why anyone would actually care about showering with their iPhone.

 

[Gmcube]

Kramer, is that you?

 

[slippery-pete]

my uncle showers with his iPhone 6s all the time, no issues.