I got the OWC 8Gb for my 15 inch Model. Got my Macbook Pro up and running for right up until now and it works like charm. OWC is confirmed to work on the 2.93 ghz 15" MacBook Pro.
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So I guess its official....8GB in newer MacBook Pro 15's
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I got the OWC 8Gb for my 15 inch Model. Got my Macbook Pro up and running for right up until now and it works like charm. OWC is confirmed to work on the 2.93 ghz 15" MacBook Pro.
Cheers!
2.4 and 2.5 will see the 8gigs but they cannot use it because when they try to, it becomes really slow and unstable and the machine might even crash. This is due to Apple's EFI firmware which purposely prevents 2.4 and 2.5 from using the 8gigs.
*sighs* here's your proof http://www.barefeats.com/mbpp11.html
Next time go read some of the 10 threads of 8 gigs of ram that has been posted on this forum for the last week.
From the link:
NO, 8GB WON'T WORK
Just for fun we tried the 8GB configuration (2 x 4GB). Though the MacBook Pro will boot and Activity Monitor sees all 8GB, there are serious operational issues. For starters, if you use anything beyond 4GB of real memory, the MBP goes into "molasses" mode. And if you manage to quit out of the memory hungry app, the reported amount of real memory in use does not recede. At a certain point, our operation was so crippled that we had to push and hold the power button to force a shutdown.
Is that clear enough for you? FOR NOW only the 2,66 and 2,93 15 inch supports 8 gig.
I thought a lot of places already proved that the 2.53GHz uni mbp couldnt use more than 6GB of RAM like 5 months ago?
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at this rate I think the consensus is Apple Fkd us (The late 2008) over. If it is a EFI/BIOS issue then its in firmware and firmware can be changed. So either apple fixes it or its time some one 'looked in to it'
the weird open source geeks even run open source BIOS 'coz they have paranoid dillusions. I think its time for a DCMA non-compliant EFI, as I feel, hmm, like thier out to get me.
I so wish I had the time
Yes, but incase you forgot to read the whole article it's about using 8 gig of ram in a 2,53 or 2,8 ghz mbp. Some people still insist or believe that their 2,53/2,8 mbp must work with 8 gig. The article states that 8 gig will not work in that system. Some guy in this thread still believes that his 2,53/2.8 mbp will work with 8gig which is not true.
Thanks for posting all this old stuff.
Maybe you visited my link above? My question: why does an Apple Store Support employee says it will work? Do you tested a 2.53 right now with 8gb ram offered from Apple?
Lol. I had a strong feeling when the 15" mbp got updated to the 2.66GHz and the 2.93GHz, the first thing I thought about was what if those can be updated to 8gb of RAM now?
I guess my thinking was right. I'm pretty sure they use a different logic board on these 15" uni mbp as to the 2.4/2.53GHz models to be able to use 8gb of RAM.
Apple's always done this, same with the 2.33GHz macbook pro which was limited to 3GB of RAM while the 2.4GHz models just 6 months later was able to go up to 4GB of RAM.
At least for the people with the new 2.66GHz and the 2.93GHz can anticipate one more upgrade in the future, a worthy one of 8GB when it gets cheap sometime at the end of this year.
That is awesome though to have 8GB of RAM if you think about it in such a small thin notebook. I usually tax about 14GB of RAM without running any pro apps when I had the 2.8GHz 8 core mac pro last year just from heavy multitasking. That 8GB of RAM should DEFINITELY help in the future, especially with snow leopard coming up soon.
Apple Store support employees usually doesnt know much about this stuff. 99% of the time I know more than what the geniuses or any apple support people do. They probably just say yes to get you off their back.
8GB of RAM will boot with the 2.4/2.53GHz unibody mbp but I remember in the article they say only 6GB of RAM is actually utilized and if OSX tries to utilize all 8 it crashes. Theres no doubt its a limitation on the logic board.
Boy am I glad I sold my 2.53GHz unibody mbp just before the new updates hit.
Is it at all possible that Apple might have snuck in some RAM fixes in one of their updates? Has anyone tried updating their 2.4 or 2.53 to 8GB recently?
What really needs to done is have the EFI and entire firmware/software of the 9400M dumped of the new 2.66 GHz & 2.93 GHz MacBook Pros and compare it to the dumped firmware in the old 2.53GHz and 2.4 GHz.
If something is different, correct it and let the early adopters live in the glory of 8GB. Also, MacBook users could benefit.
If something is different, correct it and let the early adopters live in the glory of 8GB. Also, MacBook users could benefit.
God you're annoying. You said you were going back to "PC" - why haven't you yet? Hurry up and make things easier for the rest of us...
Logic boards are not the same from 15" to 17" models. Just think through it logically if you can. Another example yet again of members thinking they know something, and therefore it must be a fact. You can quite clearly see there are differences... They don't just add an extra 2" of space and do nothing with it lol.
http://s2.guide-images.ifixit.com/igi/osGFJ1muZIiyeefn.large
Apple may have purposely disabled it on previous iterations because, as we all found out ages ago, that adding more than a certain amount makes the machine unstable. And this could very well be because the logic boards were different. And if they did, then it was sensible and they did the right thing.
Now that they seem to be working with 8GB, this could be for multiple reasons, and that the logic boards may well be more closely aligned now, as the 15" unibody's came out before the 17" did - and hence Apple have had time to refine things more. So if they found a fix, it's logical to think that is why the 15" models got an update alongside the 17" models.
You shouldn't be arrogant to presume you know exactly what the problem is and start spouting off at others.
As for not advertising the capability - well like it has been mentioned before, since when have PR companies ever taken a lead from engineers lol. If they did advertise right now - there would almost be no differentiation between the 15" and 17" models at all in the official specs, and therefore no real reason for us to spend the difference. It would have made my decision a lot more difficult - as I bought the 17" due to the more future-proof memory capacity and the ability to have a matte display. Now the only difference is the matte display.
Yes, this would be great to do, and more constructive that presuming, ala Whitefang. Though there wouldn't really be much use for 8GB's in the Macbook for users, let alone in the MBP's. We're a very select group of Mac users on here, so most people won't care or even know that the 15" MBP's have the capability to go to 8GB. I'd suspect that of all the users on our boards that could actually make use of 8GB - would take up most of the Apple users on the whole. But then, that would be presuming
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I'm not bitter about it because a) I'm throughly used to apple giving it's early adopters the short end of the stick, and b) I don't need to put 8 gigs of ram in a laptop, and certainly don't want to spend that much.
Apple may quit doing this **** if, when they come out with a new product, everyone would hold off buying it and say that they would wait six months to buy it before the inevitable revisions.
When apple went from the 5th gen ipod with video to the 5.5 gen, they added a feature where it would tell you if the podcast in a menu was listened to or not.
That's when apple started charging ipod touch owners for the software updates, I was overjoyed! $10 bucks for a new feature set instead of having to buy a new iPod? Nirvana! I think if apple charged an extra $10 or $100 for the firmware update, it would be a good solution. Customers would have the option to get the new feature if they needed it without having to spend $2-2.5k on a new system.
Apple may quit doing this **** if, when they come out with a new product, everyone would hold off buying it and say that they would wait six months to buy it before the inevitable revisions.
When apple went from the 5th gen ipod with video to the 5.5 gen, they added a feature where it would tell you if the podcast in a menu was listened to or not.
That's when apple started charging ipod touch owners for the software updates, I was overjoyed! $10 bucks for a new feature set instead of having to buy a new iPod? Nirvana! I think if apple charged an extra $10 or $100 for the firmware update, it would be a good solution. Customers would have the option to get the new feature if they needed it without having to spend $2-2.5k on a new system.
Apple pulled 15" 2.66GHz memory upgrade option from store?
http://store.apple.com/us/memoryfamily/ME_MBP
http://store.apple.com/us/memoryfamily/ME_MBP
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In the link I gave you they tested 8 gig on the late 2008 mbp (2,53/2,8) and it did not work. Many people already tested 8 gig on their late 2008 mbp and got same results, it does not work. Tell you what, why don't you go buy 8 gig yourself and test in your 2,53/2,8 mbp and let us know so I can laugh at you when it doesn't work.
Well I guess at this point, unless Apple makes a statement about it or someone compares EFI dumps, we're never going to know where the issue lies.
If it's that big of an issue I'll just sell my 2.8 and grab a 2.93, but I'm not in a rush with 8GB still going for $800+.
If it's that big of an issue I'll just sell my 2.8 and grab a 2.93, but I'm not in a rush with 8GB still going for $800+.
I wonder how many people who are complaining are even thinking of getting 8 GB, or find that 6 GB just isn't enough?
A little over $1000 I think with tax/shipping. $1044 I think.
Obviously OWC is much cheaper, but I was annoyed by them because they weren't listening to exactly what I was saying.
I wish I had that kind of money to throw around..
well...
im just glad i have my tower.
i still have only 4gigs in my tower and its enough, but will update it soon. if my macbookpro could take as much memory it would make my Mac Pro look like an idiot.
but it still not nice of apple to make that 2month update 8gb capable.. makes me ALMOST sorry i bought the 2.53, if i didnt get pissed over the clockspeeds i am abit pissed over this.
im just glad i have my tower.
i still have only 4gigs in my tower and its enough, but will update it soon. if my macbookpro could take as much memory it would make my Mac Pro look like an idiot.
but it still not nice of apple to make that 2month update 8gb capable..
makes me ALMOST sorry i bought the 2.53, if i didnt get pissed over the clockspeeds i am abit pissed over this.
I don't even have 4GB! Man, I feel so outdated and my computer is 1 week old...!
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(I don't think you can keep everyone happy. Apple comes out with 4GB, 2GB users are mad. Apple comes out with 8GB, 4GB users are mad. It's an endless cycle of mad users.)
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(I don't think you can keep everyone happy. Apple comes out with 4GB, 2GB users are mad. Apple comes out with 8GB, 4GB users are mad. It's an endless cycle of mad users.)