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A rushed product is a rushed product regardless if it's in years of development:
Skipping quality checks, not fully testing for months the product internally in various environments vs a lab, or even if rushing the software. doesn't matter.

The issues I've mentioned are valid even if you disagree; a case should not be putting headphones into deep sleep given all the sensors and at this price range. It's actually disappointing Apple chose this route to be honest..
Again I fail to see hope this is a rushed product. It’s a bug, easily fixed. None of the AirPods have a power button.
 
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By that logic iPhones or iPads shouldn't have power button, do they? But they do. Not exactly a direct button, but they have power action that works reliably. I never feel that iPhone and iPad feel less magical just because it can be turned on or off manually, even if I only need it a few times during its lifetime.
No they don’t. Holding down the right side button just invokes Siri. You have to hold two buttons and swipe.
 
I dont have the battery drain issue, but it’s strange that i can see the APM among the reachable devices with actual battery percentage while it is in the smart case... wattafck?
 
Thats great!

I'm still not a fan of using a case to put this into deep sleep in a reasonable amount of time. I was about to purchase these until the report of these came to light.

to your point, the case thing is overblown in terms of power management. Whether I put it in the case or leave it out on my desk seems to make 2% difference at most for power drain over night (for me). It's negligible. And there is a reason it doesn't go into deep sleep, that whole put it down for a bit and pick it up and use it instantly thing for one, but for another I can see how not immediately powering down helps with the 'find me'.
 
On this bandwagon. I love mine and for sure not going back... even had a replacement because the first pair did come faulty, Apple express-replaced them in 3 days, back to the goodness.
I would be annoyed if it did drained so fast and would have to wait for a fix too, I can understand a that, luckily hasn’t happened and can use them several days at a time before requiring a recharge.

Ditto. 0 problems here. I have actually come to like that there is no power button. Makes life easier and faster when I get a phone call and I just pick them up and boom, they connect, and boom they are working. Until someone has tried it, they just don't know. I am lucky not to have this power drain issue.
 
Ditto. 0 problems here. I have actually come to like that there is no power button. Makes life easier and faster when I get a phone call and I just pick them up and boom, they connect, and boom they are working. Until someone has tried it, they just don't know. I am lucky not to have this power drain issue.
So what do you think it could be? Just a bad batch that has battery issues?
 
So what do you think it could be? Just a bad batch that has battery issues?

No real clue, but my guess is that it is a software issue because a number of people who have seen the problem report that a reset does the trick. If mine did this and I had to reset it, I would ask for a replacement. But I wouldn't let this hold me back from getting one.
 
If I were at Apple, I just would add a "long press X Button" and get the thing say "Power off". The voice in the Sony's can do that. It does not seem to be THAT innovative or difficult to realize.

But I am just a humble user, actually postponing the idea to get these headphones. Potentially too troublesome...
 
I have the exact same problem. Fully charged in the evening, then the next morning the battery is at 2%.
I called Apple about it. I'm past my return period window, but the representative was cool and helped me out by making an exception that allowed me to return them to Apple and "try again" with a new pair. Not sure if it's smart to buy again and hope that the next pair of headphones don't have the same problem... especially at this premium price. I like them, but for $600 after tax, they need to work without issues.
 
I have the exact same problem. Fully charged in the evening, then the next morning the battery is at 2%.
I called Apple about it. I'm past my return period window,
So you've had them long enough to go past the return policy and you just noticed the fast battery drain, especially after you say that you charged it the night before but it nearly completely drained over night?
Not sure if it's smart to buy again and hope that the next pair of headphones don't have the same problem... especially at this premium price. I like them, but for $600 after tax, they need to work without issues.
How is this logical? Because what you're stating is issues can't be worked out. Also it's funny how you're stretching the price by including the tax. Apple doesn't create the tax. About the price if you think "$600" is a lot of money for a pair of quality headphones then you've never shopped around. The B&O headphones are upwards of $800 (before tax 🙄) and there are other headphones like the Grado that are priced at $1500-$2000 for studio headphones. Both the B&O and Grado have had their share of problems.
 
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Again I fail to see hope this is a rushed product. It’s a bug, easily fixed. None of the AirPods have a power button.

'Non of the AirPods have a power button' - pricely my point.
AirPods and AirPods Pro both have appropriate cases. Their sensors detect when in ear or not, when not in case and not in use it doesn't take 75mins for deep sleep its 15-30mins.
The AirPods Max is a much more premium product and should NOT have to rely on a sleeve to place into deep sleep since the sleeve doesn't really protect the product which does not have an IPx rating (these are portable devices and if you're carrying them externally in your hand then some protection should've been offered ~ industry standard).

Less than 30 days after release now some owners are reporting increase batter drain.

Technically yes - a bug.
Yet RUSHED because 1) poor chose of a sleeve vs a case, 2) software should've had faster deep sleep non-use power state, and shouldn't have relied on the sleeve to accomplish this. Thus this bug would not have existed and it shows nobody tested this at length to discover the bug internally.
 
to your point, the case thing is overblown in terms of power management. Whether I put it in the case or leave it out on my desk seems to make 2% difference at most for power drain over night (for me). It's negligible. And there is a reason it doesn't go into deep sleep, that whole put it down for a bit and pick it up and use it instantly thing for one, but for another I can see how not immediately powering down helps with the 'find me'.

Your use case doesn't clarify how many time a day deep sleep is initiated after 75mins without the sleeve; I refuse to call it a case, as it's not. When you do the above several times a day over say a week (as if you travelled and forgotten the case), your battery drain may be more significant and noticeable. who knows.
 
'Non of the AirPods have a power button' - pricely my point.
AirPods and AirPods Pro both have appropriate cases. Their sensors detect when in ear or not, when not in case and not in use it doesn't take 75mins for deep sleep its 15-30mins.
The AirPods Max is a much more premium product and should NOT have to rely on a sleeve to place into deep sleep since the sleeve doesn't really protect the product which does not have an IPx rating (these are portable devices and if you're carrying them externally in your hand then some protection should've been offered ~ industry standard).
Airpods Max don't need the case to go to sleep. They have sensors to detect if they're being worn or not. They go to sleep quickly when not being worn.
 
Thats great!

I'm still not a fan of using a case to put this into deep sleep in a reasonable amount of time. I was about to purchase these until the report of these came to light.
You would never buy anything form apple if you go on reports on forums lol, have a look at yellow screen thread, i got a perfect 12 from somewhere i couldn't return anyway.

The AirPods pro for me were the worst apple product i have ever bought since 4S.
 
'Non of the AirPods have a power button' - pricely my point.
AirPods and AirPods Pro both have appropriate cases. Their sensors detect when in ear or not, when not in case and not in use it doesn't take 75mins for deep sleep its 15-30mins.
The AirPods Max is a much more premium product and should NOT have to rely on a sleeve to place into deep sleep since the sleeve doesn't really protect the product which does not have an IPx rating (these are portable devices and if you're carrying them externally in your hand then some protection should've been offered ~ industry standard).

Less than 30 days after release now some owners are reporting increase batter drain.

Technically yes - a bug.
Yet RUSHED because 1) poor chose of a sleeve vs a case, 2) software should've had faster deep sleep non-use power state, and shouldn't have relied on the sleeve to accomplish this. Thus this bug would not have existed and it shows nobody tested this at length to discover the bug internally.
You don't have to buy them lol
 
I have had this exact problem! But I always put my AirPods Max into the smart case when not in use for any length of time. Yesterday, I unplugged them from charging, used them for about two hours, had 85%+ battery. Put them back into the smart case and today I had 7%.

I did notice that even though my AirPods are plugged in and on the smart case, my iMac still sees them with battery level, but they are not connected.
 
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You don't have to buy them lol
I never stated I ‘had to buy them’ either.

I stated I was about to purchase them prior to issues being reported.

For the record I purchased a few Apple products over the years — new or used and I make my own decisions. Yet having issues like these so close within 30 days of announcement/shipping is NOT good. I cannot recall another Apple product that had 3+ issues in 30 days after release in my recent Memory. I could be wrong due to micro focus on the AirPods Max but that’s just how I’m seeing it.

To everyone else it differs and I’m ok with that.
 
I never stated I ‘had to buy them’ either.

I stated I was about to purchase them prior to issues being reported.

For the record I purchased a few Apple products over the years — new or used and I make my own decisions. Yet having issues like these so close within 30 days of announcement/shipping is NOT good. I cannot recall another Apple product that had 3+ issues in 30 days after release in my recent Memory. I could be wrong due to micro focus on the AirPods Max but that’s just how I’m seeing it.

To everyone else it differs and I’m ok with that.
lol sure you were, you are talking about a minute amount of people i have 0 go figure.

here's 3 issues haha, didn't have to look far, but you will have a answer for this i am sure.



 
This problem has been solved for over a century. Its called an "off-on" button. This stupid bra case low power lunacy, was a solution looking for a problem, but instead created a problem.

Good design is timeless.
 
I seem to remember similar issues with the original AirPods and the AirPods Pro that were resolved with early firmware updates. Seems there’s a lot of stuff in the firmware that’s custom to each model and perhaps the power tweaks need to be unique to each model?
 
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Your use case doesn't clarify how many time a day deep sleep is initiated after 75mins without the sleeve; I refuse to call it a case, as it's not. When you do the above several times a day over say a week (as if you travelled and forgotten the case), your battery drain may be more significant and noticeable. who knows.

if I was traveling for a week again and using it constantly... I would charge it as necessary like I do all my devices. But okay let’s say you’re right, and instead of 2 % it amounts to 4 %. Big whoop. I use mine off and on all day and battery life has never been the issue. but hey that’s just real use experience talking, by all means keep speculating.
 
'Non of the AirPods have a power button' - pricely my point.
AirPods and AirPods Pro both have appropriate cases. Their sensors detect when in ear or not, when not in case and not in use it doesn't take 75mins for deep sleep its 15-30mins.
The AirPods Max is a much more premium product and should NOT have to rely on a sleeve to place into deep sleep since the sleeve doesn't really protect the product which does not have an IPx rating (these are portable devices and if you're carrying them externally in your hand then some protection should've been offered ~ industry standard).

Less than 30 days after release now some owners are reporting increase batter drain.

Technically yes - a bug.
Yet RUSHED because 1) poor chose of a sleeve vs a case, 2) software should've had faster deep sleep non-use power state, and shouldn't have relied on the sleeve to accomplish this. Thus this bug would not have existed and it shows nobody tested this at length to discover the bug internally.
A bit of devil’s advocating regarding deep sleep: it says that it turns off Find My services and other things. So maybe it takes some more time to restart or get out of that sleep?
Whenever I use them I can just grab and wear them over, it instantly connects to the device it was previously connected to, play some sounds, can pop them off (this will stop the active sound being listened to whether it was Music or a video from YouTube), etc several times a day... so maybe that’s why they settled on whatever amount of time for deep sleeping and other low energy modes?

It explicitly says that it does that if “left in place”, so moving them around would reset that time.
 
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Not seeing this issue with mine. They were at 80% last week when I last used them, and I just checked and now they are at 67%. I do not use the Apple case. I use a leather case I bought online.
 
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