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That’s not what they’re doing at all. They were explicit at WWDC. Everything they showed was free if your device is supported…because they are a hardware company.
But the thread title seems to contradict that doesn't it?
 
I KNEW IT !!! HERE COMES THE SUBSCRIPTION MODEL FOR MACOS.

MAYBE I SHOULD BUY A USED 2019 MAC PRO FOR $1500 AND STAY AWAY FROM APPLE SILICON.

Maybe you haven't noticed you can subscribe to iCloud Storage which through iCloud Drive and iCloud Photo Library integrated quite tightly with macOS.
 
I love how every time Apple has a new service, no one is going to sign up, even though they don’t know the cost or service.

I can’t wait to sign up for Apple Intelligence.
 
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It cost apple $0 to make privacy that's why they are selling it so hard, pure profit. Ram costs money they don't want to get in a spec war with competitors. Tim has fooled everyone that privacy is more important than ram.
 
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As of the second quarter of 2024, Apple’s gross margin amounted to around 42.27 percent. Gross margin is a financial metric that takes the difference between a company’s revenue and its cost of goods sold and then expresses this number as a percentage of total revenue. More simply expressed: in the second quarter of 2024 Apple sold its products with an overall markup of 42.27 percent over their total cost.
That is not the correct calculation FWIW. Gross margin being 42.27% does not mean that is what the mark up is on cost of goods sold. Markup on the cost of goods sold would be around 73% of the actual cost of the products.

Gross margin is the % of revenue/sales left over after cost of goods. Markup is the % of price add on to the actual cost of the item.
 
It cost apple $0 to make privacy that's why they are selling it so hard, pure profit. Ram costs money they don't want to get in a spec war with competitors. Tim has fooled everyone that privacy is more important than ram.
Bla bla. Yup, software design and development costs $0. Sure. And big bad Tim is fooling everyone…
 


Apple eventually plans to turn some of its artificial intelligence features into paid services, similar to iCloud+ subscriptions, according to Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman.

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Writing in his latest Power On newsletter, Gurman said that while Apple Intelligence will be free to start, Apple's long-term plan is to launch something like "Apple Intelligence+," with extra features that users pay monthly fees to access.

Making its own AI features another services revenue stream should allow Apple to compensate for the slowing pace of hardware upgrades and make the company less reliant on hardware tweaks to drive its business, argues Gurman.

Apple is also expected to receive a cut of revenue whenever a user signs up to features offered by its AI partners, such as ChatGPT provided by OpenAI. Gurman says he expects Apple to agree a deal with Google and Anthropic to offer their AI services through its devices, with the former expected to be announced when Apple Intelligence launches in the fall as part of iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia.

Bloomberg previously reported that Apple has turned down an AI partnership with Facebook parent company Meta due to privacy concerns. Meanwhile, Apple is said to be seeking partnerships for the Chinese market, where ChatGPT and other similar AI services are not available.

Article Link: Some Apple Intelligence Features Likely to Require Paid Subscription
Imagine you need a emergency call help via the new satellite feature just for you to guess that you need to pay the subscription to do it…
 
You already pay the Apple tax.
That is a myth. There is no "Apple tax", though it's an idea that has become rather sticky in some online circles.

Some Apple products cost a bit more than some competitor's products, for initial acquisition. But that is not always true. I've posted before examples of products from Lenovo or HP or Microsoft which are priced the same or even more than the equivalent Apple product.

And even then, prices are not "taxes". Apple has positioned itself in some markets as aspirational brand, and to go along with that adds services that one often does not get from no-name products.

And you're also just avoiding my question: who pays for the server farms?

Do you think people who use them more should pay more than those who don't use them?
 
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Check the news….

“OnePlus has announced that it will begin rolling out a number of AI features to its smartphones under the umbrella of OnePlus AI. While we don't know a lot about how the full set of features will look, the company is letting us know that all AI functionality is built and based on "genuine user needs."
not the model I'm looking at.

Edit: Also, just found out Samsung lets you turn the ai garbage off so the pool of prospects for a new phone are looking better already.
 
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I don't plan on replacing my 13 Pro Max for a few more years. When I do, this will not be something I pay for. The only Apple service that I do pay for is the $.99 storage plan. They don't get much money from me as it is as I rarely buy from the App Store or iTunes.
 
Asking Siri may require cloud use, but Home Kit sends the commands over your local network.

So my point stands then, using the logic in the comments Apple would charge you to use Siri to turn your lights in and off. I don’t think they will but this is Apple so anything’s possible.
 
So my point stands then, using the logic in the comments Apple would charge you to use Siri to turn your lights in and off. I don’t think they will but this is Apple so anything’s possible.
The App Store is such a dumpster fire. I literally go in to check for updates (I don’t like to wait, it’s a little daily ritual) and -rarely- to search for an app. I’d love it if they did away with all 4 of the other bottom tabs. It’s a mess of child gambling apps and garbage. Show me my account so I can update my apps and use search like twice a year. I never look at anything else, it’s not like it used to be where I’d get lost scrolling through stuff. It’s like the ads in the back of magazines that no one ever reads.

TL;DR: just let me default the App Store to opening the updates/account Tab or the search tab. I literally can’t care less for any of the curated pages Apple Arcade etc.
 
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Make it part of Apple One then. My family uses it, we all chip in and it saves money. And we save money by getting it through Verizon, only $20/month.
That's hilarious.

Pay a premium compared to other carriers for a sub-par 5G network, and then get fooled by them bundling in Apple One to your plan.

Verizon... The Sprint of 5G networks, at 3G Verizon era prices, with add ons that are extra.

There's no way Apple bundles this into Apple one and keeps the price the same.
 
So my point stands then, using the logic in the comments Apple would charge you to use Siri to turn your lights in and off. I don’t think they will but this is Apple so anything’s possible.

That’s a current functionality. They aren’t going to charge to use basic Siri functionality. I’m sure on newer devices those commands don’t even have to leave the device. So no, no matter what, those simple commands will not be put behind a subscription.
 
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I'd guess $16-$26 a month for the AI stuff. ChatGPT charges $20 for the advanced version of its service. I fully expect Apple Intelligence to become the industry leader and it won't be cheap to run.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Apple offers Open AI $150 billion to buy the entire system outright, integrate it into iOS completely, and rid the competition of being able to use the program.
 
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Apple will have to do the same thing to keep these services sustainable.

AAPL may choose to implement such things, but AAPL does not "have to do" so.

AAPL could actually bring Grenada's infrastructure back up to last week's status easier than I could fit the purchase of a medium coffee @DD into my budget 🤷‍♂️
 
I’m surprised people are surprised by
I’m out… won’t pay for subscriptions.

What a shame…

Apple doesn’t have enough money???
shareholders say no. And the growth at any cost goblin rears its ugly head. It’s a large part of what’s wrong with Apple today (and Cook is the mascot of that illness)
 
I’m out… won’t pay for subscriptions.

What a shame…

Apple doesn’t have enough money???
If you read past the headline you'll see that this is not about all of their AI features. It's about possible future features that they might make into optional extra cost features.

"Apple's long-term plan is to launch something like "Apple Intelligence+," with extra features "
 
If you read past the headline you'll see that this is not about all of their AI features. It's about possible future features that they might make into optional extra cost features.

"Apple's long-term plan is to launch something like "Apple Intelligence+," with extra features "
Meaning it’s gonna be standardized to be a subscription model for anything above the base feature set. Kind of like how all their keynotes show things that assume/infer a paid iCloud account.
 
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