I'll pay to NOT have that Ai garbage on there. This is the first decent news I've heard about the upcoming phone so far!
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I could see it being bundled into iCloud+ in general, no need for full Apple One.
I sometimes wonder how Apple would be as a carrier. They have the funds to build the infrastructure; lacking funds is a major barrier to competing with the big three. Direct sales to customers would increase margins, instead of deals with middlemen. I would bet nothing would happen to prevent it stateside, as our consumer protections don't care about us, but Apple is always under the spotlight.
I swear I've seen Philz Coffee on multiple Apple press images or videos, but don't recall Starbucks. You may be on to something 🧐
They'll probably subtly ruin the experience unless you get onboard and pay up
This is not a product company anymore
It's a services company
Knowing our penny counting Timmy… he will try this, as a hobby, for about 6 months to let as much people as possible buy the top of the line iPhone.
Somehow Timmy is very convinced that the iPhone is the most compelling, innovative phone out there.
We only can convince Timmy to try harder in not paying him Apple tax anymore. Under Tim Cook Apple has become lazy, boring and a follower in technology instead of the rebels and innovators of the tech industry Apple once was.
Lol… AI seems like the saddest and most desperate grift to keep paying for the too numerous programming degrees. (And for these tech companies to make a profit) If this is the case. Like NFTs were…
That was exactly the cause to finally buy a brand new 12 Pro 512 GB in September last year. Simply no really invention from there.
For processing that runs on your own computer - maybe.
But if the AI needs to run on machines at some server farm, then who do you expect to pay for it?
You already pay the Apple tax. This would give Apple a much needed edge over their competitors. Because from a hardware standpoint alone you’ll get very little bang for the buck with not the latest and greatest technology for an uber premium price.
If you want Timmy’s attention you have to mimic the sound of pennies falling on the floor 😅
It will probably be for the part that runs on their servers in the cloud, and you’ll probably get X months free with a hardware purchase. Servers and bandwidth aren’t free, and LLMs use a lot of compute, we shouldn’t expect them to give these things away indefinitely
As much as you don’t like AI… I hope you can disable it in system settings for you.
Other than the AI possibilities, iPhone 16 won’t have any compelling reason to upgrade if rumors are true.
Let’s be honest… if MacRumors already is comparing the iPhone 13 with the upcoming iPhone 16 to make the iPhone 16 look more compelling 😅. I’m holding my breath (and wallet).
As for AI… it’s here and soon it will be everywhere. Better accept and make good use of it or buy a Nokia instead.
But according to Timmy it’s “safer” by Apple (except for your wallet 😜)
What are they supposed to add that would get people excited about new products? iPhones have been “good enough” for most people’s purposes for 5+ years now
Most “new” features would make it more Android- or desktop-like, and may not align with their overall goals for iOS
Whether we like it or not AI seems to be the future. We don’t want Apple being left behind, they’re the most ethical of the big tech corporations
People worth hundreds of millions of dollars sitting around, obsessively trying to come up with new ways to make another hundred million dollars.
What's new?
What's new?
I agree with you on the AI part and I want to believe Apple is the most ethical of the big tech corporations. But is there an independent fact sheet for that?
I’m asking because Apple also says it cares about the environment and at the same time makes it near impossible to upgrade or repair existing devices.
They say the development of phones plateaued. But somehow I see new features coming in new phones everywhere except for the iPhone 16, 15, 14, 13, 12….That was exactly the cause to finally buy a brand new 12 Pro 512 GB in September last year. Simply no really invention from there.
If Timmy is out of ideas… I have a great idea for him. Give every new iPhone more RAM so they’re more future proof (also Macs with at least 16 Gb of RAM and 512 SSD, 8 Gb is so nineties 😅)
Not everyone, but here are a lot of Macrumors' commenters who don't like paying for stuff or want to spend as little money as possible.
I on the other hand, believe Apple should be allowed to price their products and services any way they see fit.
The only thing left for me, is if Apple provide enough value for the price they charge, I'll buy.
It's so easy being me.
Norway is one of the biggest coffee drinking countries in the world and Apple's penetration is among the largest in the world.
That's how you measure wealth these days.
(Financed by oil, natural gas and salmon)
Apple's net margin has been between 20% and 27% for the last 14 years. This isn't exorbitant profits by my standard.
I never had a doubt they wouldn't generate revenue from such a feature. Which is fine if they bundle it with other things. But one day, there will be another subscription for the Vision Pro headset "experiences". At some point there's going to be too many Apple fees per month to stomach.
The value for money with services is very open to criticism and everyone will see it differently, Apple rely a lot on convenience for sales with its services, like Apple using on all your devices already etc. but they don’t offer anything above anyone else, yet, so as we haven’t got any AI pricing tiers to judge by it’ll be interesting to see how the market evolves, but I’m still against them charging for it. Sadly my life isn’t easy and I have to struggle through it, but it could be much worst.
I saw a recent video by Marques Brownlee where he talks to John Ternus head of hardware design at Apple, and from that conversation it sounds like Apple prioritizes durability over repairability/upgradability. Perfectly durable being a completely solid object with no moving parts, like a stone. I honestly think this is the best way to go about things. If screens and outer shells were plastic instead of glass, they would scratch and still crack eventually. Any kind of rubberized coating eventually gets nasty or would chip. The best case scenario is having a solid device that you either take very good care of, or put a case on which can be replaced as the case gets stained or damaged.
iPhones are definitely repairable, just requiring specific tools, which is why there are no less than 10 phone repair places within 5 miles of me and they can all stay in business. They don’t need to be repairable by us, especially if we take care of them and treat them like the $1000+ machines they are.
For upgradability, consider this: Moore’s law is coming to an end, at the very least slowing down with each die shrink. When computing power/RAM was being increased every several months, there was significant demand for upgradability. A downstream effect of this is that software engineers don’t need to worry about trying to optimizing their code for devices with less RAM/CPU/GPU, as they figured the consumer would upgrade or replace their device if needed, and it was expected they would do they every couple years.
Now in recent years, with CPU and RAM improving very slowly, and with people being unable to upgrade their device after purchase, developers have more incentive to release software optimized for lower specs to reach the largest audience, which in turn increases the longevity of those devices.
Think about this, do you think macs with 8gb RAM would still be useful if years ago Apple had given us 16, then 32 gb in base models? Probably not, as devs would just let apps be more RAM hungry, and all those 8gb models would be paperweights right now. If Apple made it easy for the consumer to upgrade after purchase, the devs would just put the onus of more RAM on the consumer and expect them to upgrade, which then raises the minimum for everyone, then Apple has to start increasing their minimum, and it’s a vicious cycle. Locking the RAM in is a good way to slow that down
Take a look at how many older iPhones and mac’s are still in use vs the competition. Another part of the story is their slow design evolution. An iPhone doesn’t look outdated in 2 years because their design language has been very consistent over the long term. It would be easy for them to go the Sony route and change the design up to get people to upgrade. That is low hanging fruit, and they leave it on the table. I think it’s commendable
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