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Some Apple Intelligence Features Likely to Require Paid Subscription

steve09090 said:
Ah. So you are basing your entire experience of Apples AI on their keynote. Noted. You don’t value privacy and Apples access to ChatGPT doesn’t give you access to ChatGPT. Got it. It’s too early for me to form an educated opinion on its ability when it isn’t even in public Beta yet. Coming Soon.


Probably have seeing they state they also have experience in actually using Apple Intelligence. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Personally, I don’t believe it, but they seem pretty sure…
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Yeah they have some super secret AI behind the scenes, they just didn't want the whole world to know about it, that's why they are begging other companies like OpenAI in the first place.
orbital~debris said:
By 'years' I presume you mean 19 months.
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20, and Apple Intelligence ain't coming for another 3 months best case scenario, so that would be at least 2 years where Apple missed the AI boat unlike Nvidia and Microsoft.
 
Although LLMs and these AI Models are very expensive to run, it would be a jerk move if Apple doesn’t include A TIER of the Apple Intelligence subscription into Apple One or iCloud+(most likely Apple One) that has a few more features than the base and you can pay more for the tier with all of the features. It should be split into 3 or 4 tiers. The amount of subscriptions that have come in the last decade have done basically nothing but increase.
 
NT1440 said:
6 pages in and I’ve determine the vast majority of MR has no reading comprehension or critical thinking skills.

The number of people in this thread who think, based on absolutely nothing, that anything introduced in the WWDC keynote will cost them a subscription fee is shocking.
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Critical thinking, IMO, would lead one to believe a subscription is inevitable. Apple most likely spent a ton of money on AI and expects a return, as do the shareholders. Seems like virtually everything today is being sold as a subscription. Looking at other AI solutions like ChatGPT and you can see where they lure you in with their free tier and then upsell the premium subscription. In particular this is the business model ON Apple devices, you get the free tier then can upgrade with ChatGPT and Apple gets a cut of that I assume. I'd almost say that's Apple already charging an indirect subscription seeing how tightly ChatGPT is in Apple Intelligence. Plus it's not like Apple doesn't have their own myriad of subscription services obviously, and these are in some quarters their fastest growing revenue sources.

Certainly all of this is based on ONLY rumors and speculation, but honestly I would be hard pressed to think Apple would NOT charge for some sort of premium tier of its AI in the future. My feeling is that it better be useful and not just fluff for consumers to pay.
 
For seeking simple, but useful info, Aria using Gemini and PALM 2 gives clear info and links.
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I'm using an Intel MacBook. It is 30.46°C at the moment.
As Safari still doesn't have an AI bot, I use Aria from time to time.
The MBP is running Sequoia Beta 2.
 
chmania said:
For seeking simple, but useful info, Aria using Gemini and PALM 2 gives clear info and links.
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I'm using an Intel MacBook. It is 30.46°C at the moment.
As Safari still doesn't have an AI bot, I use Aria from time to time.
The MBP is running Sequoia Beta 2.
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In an earlier version of the Apple Developer website, Apple said it was coming this summer in an upcoming beta before them changing it to coming “later”. I presume DB3/PB1 will include an extremely early beta of Apple Intelligence, or they would lock it behind the $100 Developer accounts.

Just be on the lookout 👀.
 

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orbital~debris said:
All these comments saying they won't use it because of the price… Why?
Because you're concerned it will be a good feature/service but then you'll feel obliged to pay for it to retain access?
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Because it’s bound to be a mostly “meh” feature that’s not worth tying yourself to a subscription for. And it’s not so much the price than subscriptions being offputting as such. Things must be really good value for me wanting to enter a subscription for.
 
pavelbure said:
For the price of a cup of coffee………. Blah blah blah. With all this damn coffee buying people are doing with subscriptions they can’t even afford the real thing.
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It's matter of time when folks realize how much "coffee" they are buying. And kick the habit!
 
Quasium said:
In an earlier version of the Apple Developer website, Apple said it was coming this summer in an upcoming beta before them changing it to coming “later”. I presume DB3/PB1 will include an extremely early beta of Apple Intelligence, or they would lock it behind the $100 Developer accounts.
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Oh, won't be paying any money for AI, Apple or otherwise. 😏

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wbeasley said:
Apple is a business. Businesses exist to make profits.
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Oh yeah? Then why since day one has Apple been portraying itself as doing something positive for the world?

In any case this doesn't bother me. It just my purchase of a new iPhone won't be subsidising free AI for others that I won't use. Fine by me.
 
MacFarmer said:
I wish the same. But highly unlikely. Take music app. Before apple music, it was nice, simple to use. Now they shove AM adds, and radio crap front and center. I have large library of my own collection, and now it is pain to use. Some features are gone, some are not working as they should. Total disaster. So color me skeptical, but I wish it will not interfere too much on the daily usage.
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Yup

So much so that I use iTunes still

(Thx Retroactive!)
 
It’s the price you pay for ignorance. We didn’t need Apple Intelligence 10 years ago, we don’t need it today.. and we won’t need it tomorrow. Apple Intelligence is for people who are too lazy to use their own brain.
 
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nephets said:
How else are they planning on getting around the rate limiting that happens with even paid subscriptions with chat gpt?
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Apple isn’t paying OpenAI for ChatGPT, so I doubt that function will be unlimited rate. Furthermore, the ChatGPT access doesn’t fall under “Apple Intelligence”, that’s only Apple‘s own models.
 
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spinedoc77 said:
Critical thinking, IMO, would lead one to believe a subscription is inevitable. Apple most likely spent a ton of money on AI and expects a return, as do the shareholders. Seems like virtually everything today is being sold as a subscription. Looking at other AI solutions like ChatGPT and you can see where they lure you in with their free tier and then upsell the premium subscription. In particular this is the business model ON Apple devices, you get the free tier then can upgrade with ChatGPT and Apple gets a cut of that I assume. I'd almost say that's Apple already charging an indirect subscription seeing how tightly ChatGPT is in Apple Intelligence. Plus it's not like Apple doesn't have their own myriad of subscription services obviously, and these are in some quarters their fastest growing revenue sources.

Certainly all of this is based on ONLY rumors and speculation, but honestly I would be hard pressed to think Apple would NOT charge for some sort of premium tier of its AI in the future. My feeling is that it better be useful and not just fluff for consumers to pay.
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IF a “premium” tier of Apple Intelligence eventually comes down the line, it is going to be *different* than everything that was shown at WWDC. Apple explicitly stated this was all free of charge (ignore cost of entry by purchasing Apple device).

Macrumors, somehow, has turned this into “the stuff we saw is going to cost money through a subscription”. That is plainly not true.

Again I’ll circle back to reading comprehension.
 
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I better be able to generate some lifelike high-res images like Midjourney if they expect to see any money out of me!
 
Smittywerben said:
Yeah they have some super secret AI behind the scenes, they just didn't want the whole world to know about it, that's why they are begging other companies like OpenAI in the first place.

20, and Apple Intelligence ain't coming for another 3 months best case scenario, so that would be at least 2 years where Apple missed the AI boat unlike Nvidia and Microsoft.
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Except for all of the AI stuff Apple have just been getting on with and incorporating in their products without much fanfare for the last few years 🤷🏻
 
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