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Battery life on my apple watch 38mm
 

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26 posts and we're not yet blaming the user? Com'on guys, where's:

"Sweaty-armed people shouldn't wear one" or "they should better manage their sweat", etc.

"Why would someone buy this piece of treasure and then sweat on it? People are just so stupid."

Etc.

...and the 2 most popular comebacks (with "_________gate")...

"This never happens to me"/"Mine is working perfectly" (implying that this isn't actually happening to anyone else). Maybe the "hundreds of thousands" or "million sold" argument where "...and barely a handful of people are having a problem" also marginalizes the problem as if it's not actually happening... or those reporting it are liars, Samsung trolls, etc.

and

"You're wearing it wrong"

<yoda> Know these forums well you do </yoda>
 
And this is why I never buy a first generation version of any new Apple product. The public are unwitting beta testers. I'll buy the next version when they update it next year
I'm waiting a month or so, because I'm busy right now. New baby tomorrow. Moving to a different state. Big project at work. I just don't have time to deal with a new device right now.

Still, I'm grateful to everyone who's waiting for the second generation. It means one less person ahead of me in line when I'm ready. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to enjoy my Apple Watch for a most of a year while you wait and dream about what version 2 is going to do.
 
Some affected users have said that a water rinse does not solve the problem, or solves it only temporarily, while others have expressed dissatisfaction at potentially needing to rinse the Apple Watch after every workout.
This is most unsatisfactory, MR. Some people still think the earth is flat. Some people will never be happy. Other times where there is smoke there is fire. If 2 out of 100 fall into the category you describe, then it is a non issue, IMO. If this solution doesn't work (say for 50% and better) then we have something. And as far as people not being comfortable following manufacturer's recommendations...sucks to be them; don't care. Now can we get some genuine journalism on just what we have on our hands here?
 
Seriously, have these people never used a watch before? After working out, you should definitely be rinsing your watch if not to get rid of the smell at the very least.

Damn, people are lazy and whiny.

this x a million.

every single piece of workout electronics and diving electronics says 'rinse with cool fresh water' after use. salt evaporate from sweat or sea water creates a gritty layer that is gummy and corrosive and needs to be rinsed off.

i've owned many watches, on almost all the crowns are sealed; some, like a rolex sub or iwc dive are o-ringed and threaded. air tight. so, no water or lint in there... watches not water proof, like an omega i have or bell/ross or many others, are still screw-in crowns with o-rings... sealed. the apple watch is one of a complete tiny handful of watches with crowns that don't screw in.. because it does different things than every other crown out there: hi-accuracy rotary encoder and a pushbutton in one. so it may need a rinse.

DEAL WITH IT.

this is so insanely overblown and ****** boring, all these whining teenagers.... good grief. it'll be over after the weekend.

i for one am happy apple tends towards simplicity and lightness rather than slapping some other seal on there that would add weight, complexity, and to tell the truth just another vector for failure.

threads like this sincerely keep me from coming back to this site. i'm sure these readers are a small percentage of mr readers, otherwise no forum on this whole site would be worth one second of time.
 
Apple should have never made a watch. The thing is clunky, oversized, and unnecessary when you have a smartphone. The should have just improved the already existing iPod Nano 6th gen by making it thinner with more ram and bluetooth.

Well, they did, Blanche. They did make a watch. And there's absolutely nothing you can do about.

The fact that Apple ignored the iPod Nano (which I was never interested in) in favor of a watch (which I am interested in) pleases me greatly.
 
What expensive electronics have you used when sweaty or dirty and rinsed off with water? Just curious. I'm trying to think what kind of electronics would be ok to rinse off with water since the two don't usually mix well.

My dive computer for a start
 
My dive computer for a start

Dive computer.

Watch that lets dead skin cells (my skin doesn't die whose does) & sweat hamper the crown after a week.

Great comparison.

What finely crafted Swiss watch has EVER said (it's normal after a week for the crown to jam).

This is laughable.
 
How many hundreds of years have we had watches that you had to wind up or set the time with a rotating stem similar to the crown on the Apple watch?

Weird that Apple could find a way to make something that's been tested over time and ages, suddenly failure prone. In my entire life, none of my old standard watches had the stem become difficult to turn.

Now Apple has devised a way for reliable ancient methods to fail in a week or two?

Very sad.

I tried on the watch and when I turned the crown it was totally frictionless, unlike the kind of crown on a windup watch. So, a tiny bit of friction would be an obvious difference on the Watch but still less than a winding watch.
 
Any engineer will agree that moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break first – it's that simple!
No. I'm a mechanical engineer who used to work for NASA. I've piloted the International Space Station. I know a thing or two about engineering.

Saying, "moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break" and using it as an argument against the use of a crown on the Apple Watch is absurd. There are working mechanical devices that are many hundreds of years old. They'll last many hundreds more. There are working 100% mechanical watches older you, me and our parents combined.

I guess you could always go for a 100% solid state Galaxy Gear with its 4 hour battery life...
 
this x a million.

every single piece of workout electronics and diving electronics says 'rinse with cool fresh water' after use. salt evaporate from sweat or sea water creates a gritty layer that is gummy and corrosive and needs to be rinsed off.

i've owned many watches, on almost all the crowns are sealed; some, like a rolex sub or iwc dive are o-ringed and threaded. air tight. so, no water or lint in there... watches not water proof, like an omega i have or bell/ross or many others, are still screw-in crowns with o-rings... sealed. the apple watch is one of a complete tiny handful of watches with crowns that don't screw in.. because it does different things than every other crown out there: hi-accuracy rotary encoder and a pushbutton in one. so it may need a rinse.

DEAL WITH IT.

this is so insanely overblown and ****** boring, all these whining teenagers.... good grief. it'll be over after the weekend.

i for one am happy apple tends towards simplicity and lightness rather than slapping some other seal on there that would add weight, complexity, and to tell the truth just another vector for failure.

threads like this sincerely keep me from coming back to this site. i'm sure these readers are a small percentage of mr readers, otherwise no forum on this whole site would be worth one second of time.

Awesome post. This site is so predictable.
 
The problem is skin cells mixed with sweat. Your body sheds skin cells all day long. Wonder why your house is filled with dust? That's your skin. The human body sheds constantly, between 30,000 and 40,000 of them fall off every hour. Over a 24-hour period, you lose almost a million skin cells. This skin mixed with sweat forms a kind of gunk on watches. That is what is clogging the crowns.

I have many watches and I keep them clean so I rarely see this but I lent one of my Tags to my girlfriends brother once and he had it for a week to impress this girl he took out and when he returned it the back was covered in gunk. It was gross.

Better rinse those apple watches off daily if the crown is getting clogged that easily. Pretty poor design if you ask me.
 
I love it!!!! # way to go my test pilots !!!! Keep up the good work!!! Find those pesky bugs!! Find them all before I get mine! I'll give you 3 more months!! So don't let me down!!! #
 
Dive computer.

Watch that lets dead skin cells (my skin doesn't die whose does) & sweat hamper the crown after a week.

Great comparison.

What finely crafted Swiss watch has EVER said (it's normal after a week for the crown to jam).

This is laughable.

Wow - way to misquote. Good effort.

I was responding to this:

What expensive electronics have you used when sweaty or dirty and rinsed off with water? Just curious. I'm trying to think what kind of electronics would be ok to rinse off with water since the two don't usually mix well.

I wasn't comparing a dive computer to a finely crafted swiss watch.

Again as I commented earlier you can't compare the impact on the crown between the "finely crafted swiss watch" and the Apple Watch in terms of durability as the crown on the "finely crafted swiss watch" rarely gets used.
 
This is probably the first time Apple has ever recommended running water over any of their products for any reason :D
 
No. I'm a mechanical engineer who used to work for NASA. I've piloted the International Space Station. I know a thing or two about engineering.

Saying, "moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break" and using it as an argument against the use of a crown on the Apple Watch is absurd. There are working mechanical devices that are many hundreds of years old. They'll last many hundreds more. There are working 100% mechanical watches older you, me and our parents combined.

I guess you could always go for a 100% solid state Galaxy Gear with its 4 hour battery life...

You've piloted the ISS?! You can't just casually drop that without giving more details.

If you've piloted the ISS, everyone's argument is invalid. Anything anyone here has ever done or said amounts to diddly squat.
 
Just like you're apologizing for every fault made by Steve.

-Week-long outages and data loss for MobileMe (something people were paying for, unlike iCloud)
-OS X updates that killed networking on Macs (10.2.8)
-Snow Leopard wiping out user folders
-iPhone 4 power adapter prongs breaking off

These were not "minor in-between flaws."

Yes, he was brilliant. But Apple is doing better than ever – not worse.

Lest we forget, people here and elsewhere decried the iPad even more vocally than they are the Watch.

Where do you see me apologizing ?
I'm acknowledging that there were faults. Admittedly, I didn't get bit as much as you or some others previously, this is just my subjective opinion. I'm not claiming statistical accuracy by any stretch, but I am saying that product design and direction is deteriorating. iOS 7/8 flaws such as crass design changes, iOS8 killing iPhone calls, OS X instabilities with too frequent updates with more bugs than ever before, hardware downgrades, memory lock-ins, etc...
and yes, I blame some of that on the iWatch engineering resource drain.

But especially when J.I. proclaims to have reinvented the watch and Switzerland can go f.. itself, it begs a little Schadenfreude when things don't go as smooth as first thought.
 
I think there are enough data points now to argue the product was rushed to market by a year or so. The question is why?

Because of everyone making them, besides Apple. It's absolutely rushed and the best money spent is AppleCare or other insurance. I have a feeling that it will be needed.
 
What finely crafted Swiss watch has EVER said ...

The band of my old Rolex needed washing in fresh water after snorkeling while wearing it, or inside the clasp would get crusty and gum up. Same thing.

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If you sweat "all over" your electronics, you've got bigger problems ...

It's hard to run on a hot muggy day without sweating all over my old GPS watch and Bluetooth heart rate strap. (The combo of which cost more than my iPad, BTW.) The heart monitor chest strap definitely needs a good rinse after every run, or else it will smell really rank the next day, with salt grime on the battery compartment door.
 
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