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Resolved (Some) Fat people's attitude
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Can't agree more. I lost in the last 12 month 23 kg. BMI dropped by 5. Still solid above my target of 25 so need to continue my diet. Mainly just eat the half; less salt and meat. In the vegan-threat i still voted for a nice steak.
but need to be tender and small.Breakfast is now Japanese style (rice, veggies, natto); no more bread and cheese with honey.
As the body weight got down I can start some light sport like walking and use the stairs in the company instead of elevator; having a walk during lunch break and using this time listen to some audio books is even good for the brain.
All those little changes really converted my life style: I don't even want to eat or drink all that stuff I did before.
Lucky enough my wife and colleagues fully support the transformation; my wife with making me an obento box/ lunch box every day and colleagues with excepting not to go out for lunch with them or drinking lots beer in night time. It might be also a cultural benefit of living in Japan where people tend to care more for each other.
So I don't have to listen to stupid moments at all; but I also would just ignore them or answer with a bit sarcasm on it; not too much; just a bit.
Walk away from these people. Just walk away. No one needs that kind of negativity in their lives. If they want to be miserable, let them. The only person you canh change is yourself.
Beat me to the punch. If your attitude is anything like we see on these boards. I have a feeling it is a 50/50 on attitude received and given.
Please read my posts. You and MacDawg have basically displayed the same attitude that the persons I'm talking about did. You're both the aggressors here. I have specifically stated that these are co-workers with which I have no beef or reason to "berate" nor did I initiate any conversations and have only replied politely to their obvious jabs (so as not to escalate the situation).
I have no reasons here to refrain from "escalating" discussions that are also taking place, especially when faced with ignorance.
Yes.. it reveals that the thread is going to be a discussion about the bad attitudes that result in poor health.
So how does that explain the same thing happening to other people? I experience similar attitude from overweight people. Is that just a coincidence? (and before you say it's me, it's not. Outside of the internet I'm very quiet, polite, and friendly)
You know I thinking the same thing. There are better ways to describe the issues without really having a title that is rather harsh
What's harsh about it ? Should it have been "The way overweight folk react" ? They are fat (or overweight, or obese, or whatever, fat is shorter) and I'm going to be discussing an attitude (which can be either negative or positive, the word itself has no connotation on its own).
I think you guys are applying selective bias here.
Have I attacked you in anyway, shape or form here ? Why the negativity ? If you don't like my thread or do not want to participate, please don't pollute so others that do want to can in a constructive fashion.
I just read the thread so I could learn what my attitude is, according to the OP. I was surprised, to say the least.
I fInd it ironic that the premise of your thread is the reaction you get when they bring the subject up
You asked
I am answering
Your response is the same as the one you complain about from them
All I am saying is you often appear to others as having an abrasive attitude whether you realize it or not
The same advice you give is true here
If you don't want to hear it don't ask
You asked
I am answering
Your response is the same as the one you complain about from them
All I am saying is you often appear to others as having an abrasive attitude whether you realize it or not
The same advice you give is true here
If you don't want to hear it don't ask
I just read the thread so I could learn what my attitude is, according to the OP. I was surprised, to say the least.
You just be big and happy and proud with that Big Mac and fries.
How many times have you seen a person smoking and advice them to quit, they will most likely tell you to **** off. They know they are slowly killing themselves but for what ever reason they don't have the will power or desire to stop. You can't force it on them just hope they realize it for themselves.
The same goes for people who over eat. Unless they are ready to hear it nothing you say will change their thinking.
The same goes for people who over eat. Unless they are ready to hear it nothing you say will change their thinking.
I just read the thread so I could learn what my attitude is, according to the OP. I was surprised, to say the least.
I never hinted this was an attitude shared by all fat people. Wear the hat if it fits. This is an attitude I associated with some of my fat co-workers. I have a fat friend that doesn't have this attitude at all, in fact, we never discuss food when eating together, we just eat whatever is in front of us, one not judging the other.
When he's ready, he'll ask me (he's been trying hard and has had only moderate success).
Except if you read this thread, is is more akin to me sitting there minding my own business, and a smoker coming up and saying "Hey, have a cigarette! They are yum yum good to breath in and relax you!" and me saying "No thanks, I don't need to inhale toxic products" and them then getting mad and ridiculing me over not being a smoker.
And I've yet to see a smoker do that. Hence why I don't get why some fat people feel the need to ridicule other folks who make healthy lifestyle choices.
Except as I explained it before, I have not had an abrasive attitude towards them nor did I initiate the exchanges on this matter with them as you first hinted. As it stands, your insistence on this point is only aggressive and harassing.
I was polite the first time and pointed this out. You continuing is not "You answering", it's "You harassing" now. Either read my replies and respond accordingly or move me to ignore and leave the thread.
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^ This.
As you say, they don't want the answer, despite not knowing. Taking the high road in that case does not mean attempting to educate them - especially if this has been a recurring problem, which I assume it is. You've tried, and know they don't want to hear it. Instead, what I'd do would be smile (nicely, not condescendingly) and say something like "I'm glad your enjoying it." Then change the subject.
I'm no "obesity sympathizer" or whatever you might want to cast me as, but if you want to keep a good tone with your coworkers, and not have this ruin your whole relationship, you need to let it go. Not necessarily get up and leave, but be the bigger person by showing you have a thick skin and don't let these comments rile you.
Undoubtedly, you probably know a lot that could benefit them, and you have the right to be proud of your accomplishment. Having seen what an improvement it has made to your life, I imagine you wish to help others too. But give up on these guys - for now. If they come around and ask sincerely, *then* reply. But not until then.
I think I fixed it for the people trying to derail the thread into one about the political correctness of my chosen title.
MacNut, Maflynn, MacDawg, Tomorrow, feel free to now leave to discuss others who wish to discuss the topic, not meta-discuss about the chosen topic and posters.
I had this problem when I dropped 60 pounds. Not a huge amount but on my small frame it made an enormous impact.
The negative remarks / conversations that ensued stopped when I started open carrying a handgun, which is my constitutional right to do so here in the states. The conversations switched to either the gun, or people just stopped making stupid comments altogether. It was amazing. I'm not saying you should do this, but it is what has worked for me so I just thought I'd share.
The negative remarks / conversations that ensued stopped when I started open carrying a handgun, which is my constitutional right to do so here in the states. The conversations switched to either the gun, or people just stopped making stupid comments altogether. It was amazing. I'm not saying you should do this, but it is what has worked for me so I just thought I'd share.
Don't all people with addictions want to deny they have a problem, be it eating, smoking, drugs.
Another point in all of this, when I decided to change my life and sat down for my "first" meal in the process, I got questions about it. Sincere, legitimate questions. The guys just weren't used to see me eat a salad and a diet coke I guess and they were suddenly puzzled.
I answered and explained what I read about/learned and what I was planning. Instantly, the reply from the entire table was :
"HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".
Thanks for the encouragment there. Anyway, they were laughing less when my plan did end up working. Most of those co-workers that laughed and told me I would quite within a week congratulated me and never brought it up again. It's only the overweight ones that keep badgering me. I don't know, maybe they thought when I explained it at first I meant "diet program" when in fact I meant "lifestyle change". I can't blame them for not understanding, there was a lot of stuff I didn't know when I first decided to shed weight.
Anyway, this thread has made one thing clear, I'll need to either live with the comments until they stop (or punch one of them out). There's really nothing I do that can stop it, be it the high road or low road. They are the only ones empowered to diffuse this situation, I can only sit there and take it until they tire out (which shouldn't take long, I heard fat people get tired easily hahahaha, that one felt good).
I answered and explained what I read about/learned and what I was planning. Instantly, the reply from the entire table was :
"HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".
Thanks for the encouragment there.
Anyway, they were laughing less when my plan did end up working. Most of those co-workers that laughed and told me I would quite within a week congratulated me and never brought it up again. It's only the overweight ones that keep badgering me. I don't know, maybe they thought when I explained it at first I meant "diet program" when in fact I meant "lifestyle change". I can't blame them for not understanding, there was a lot of stuff I didn't know when I first decided to shed weight. Anyway, this thread has made one thing clear, I'll need to either live with the comments until they stop (or punch one of them out). There's really nothing I do that can stop it, be it the high road or low road. They are the only ones empowered to diffuse this situation, I can only sit there and take it until they tire out (which shouldn't take long, I heard fat people get tired easily hahahaha, that one felt good).
It sounds like this is just a carry over from your normal interaction with your co-workers. They obviously do not want to know about the food but are just trying to get back at you. Be nicer to them and maybe they will start being nicer to you.
I've mentionned a few times that I shed a lot of weight last year, having taken my life into my hands and made a few changes after getting educated about weight, fitness and health. There's one thing however that I don't understand : Fat people's attitude towards me. I don't mean fat people who have no clue I lost the weight I did (now sporting a healthy BMI of around 21-22), I mean those I left behind in the realm of the close to and/or morbidly obese.
Often, at work, when we're eating, they'll jape me about the food I eat (salads with good protein sources like fish/chicken, lots of vegetables and fruits, low fat cheeses, whole grains in moderate portions), which inevitably starts a conversation about calories around the table and then these guys get pissed at me and call me a preacher. WTF. You're asking the questions here, half-kidding, I'm answering, how the heck am I preaching ?
So I tell them if they don't want to hear about it, they can just stop bringing it up. This inevitably leads to a "the weight he lost seems to have gone with his sense of humor" and by then it completely goes south.
Other times, like when we have to work overtime at work and someone brings in unhealthy snacks like donuts/chips and other crap, if I even dare pick something up and eat it, I can expect the japes again "how many calories in that donut ? How many calories in those chips ?" or of course the inevitable "Hey, look at me, I'm eating 3 donuts, how many calories is that ?".
WTF, seriously, WTF is up with them ? I don't give a crap what you eat and that you're fat. If you ask questions on how it I lost weight and stuff, I will answer, don't get mad and call me a preacher for answering your questions. And what is with the making fun of someone eating and living healthy ? Is it something to be laughed at ?
Maybe I should start making fun of them because they're fat or something ? Ah the joys of the high road...
first congrats to make the decission to live a healthier life
for a lot of people in our western society the term healthy alone is causing enough stress to topup their BMI by 5 points a day later
but the problem is in our society obesity is widely accepted especially among young women
when i was in my teens the girls had some women like
then somebody told them that making a diet or eat less is unhealty or something along that line and the result is
(sorry if i offend somebody ) today i get the impression if i go out that todays beauty idol for younger women is
and dare to say she is fat , that is bullying and offencive , you are not allowed to say somebody is fat any more
among men its the same, sorry but i got stuck in the 80's and i'm more interested in good looking women
and my BMI (21) never changed since i was 20 and now i'm 43 and have not changed apart from the odd grey hair in my beard , healthy eating & physical exercise helps a lot, which doesnt mean i eat only salad leaves , i enjoy eating lots of meat too at least 4 times weekly , only difference i burn calories before they can pile up as fat
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