Resolved (Some) Fat people's attitude

[iJohnHenry]

I too was 6' 1/2" 145 pounds in my teens/early 20's.

Now beaten down to 6', and up to 200. (Have dropped 10 since January. A pound a month is definitely doable.)

 

[wpotere]

I too was 6' 1/2" 145 pounds in my teens/early 20's.

Now beaten down to 6', and up to 200. (Have dropped 10 since January. A pound a month is definitely doable.)

Absolutely and congrats to you! I now weigh in at 209 6'1" but I am also lifting regularly so I am bulking up. I tend to bounce around the 210 mark... That being said, my waist is still shrinking so I am losing fat.

 

[iJohnHenry]

Absolutely and congrats to you! I now weigh in at 209 6'1" but I am also lifting regularly so I am bulking up. I tend to bounce around the 210 mark... That being said, my waist is still shrinking so I am losing fat.

A cloth tape is vastly cheaper than a balance scale.

 

[wpotere]

A cloth tape is vastly cheaper than a balance scale.

Yeah, but I have access to a good scale as well as a tape and calipers.

 

[xlii]

When I was about 47 years old a switch went off in my head and I got motivated to lose weight. I ate right and started to exercise. I would walk at lunch. When the results became obvious at work, one of my co workers started to walk with me. Before long I had 6 or 7 of them walking with me before we ate lunch. Basically I became a good example to them. I would never tell a co worker what to eat. If they asked me I would tell them what I was doing but I wouldn't preach.

 

[MrSmith]

The fact you need to bring this up on an Internet forum shows that you need to share it. Good for you on the weight loss, but nobody outside your friends and family care. You're sharing it at work and they don't want to hear it. Accept it.

 

[wpotere]

The fact you need to bring this up on an Internet forum shows that you need to share it. Good for you on the weight loss, but nobody outside your friends and family care. You're sharing it at work and they don't want to hear it. Accept it.

I think you missed the part where he doesn't say anything to them, they bring it up.

 

[MrSmith]

I think you missed the part where he doesn't say anything to them, they bring it up.

No, I didn't. You spent too much time on that part.

 

[Gregg2]

I'm 5' 9 and about 160. I get envy, but no sarcasm, put downs or teasing. I think it's in the way you come across to people that determines how they will treat you. My co-workers see that I eat healthy food for lunch, and they've asked about my exercise regimen. They know I'm in good shape, and they think it's great. Yes, some of them are overweight.

 

[KnightWRX]

The fact you need to bring this up on an Internet forum shows that you need to share it. Good for you on the weight loss, but nobody outside your friends and family care. You're sharing it at work and they don't want to hear it. Accept it.

Bring what up ? Bring up a situation where I was seeking advice from forum goers about how to react to some comments ?

I don't get what you're saying here.

 

[wpotere]

No, I didn't. You spent too much time on that part.

I guess the "you're sharing it at work" part is eluding me, sorry for being stupid. As I said, he stated that he is not the one that initiates the conversations, they are.

 

[KnightWRX]

I guess the "you're sharing it at work" part is eluding me, sorry for being stupid. As I said, he stated that he is not the one that initiates the conversations, they are.

I think he means I'm showing off my weight loss at work... which quite evades me how I can not do that. It's not like I can put on weight 5 minutes before leaving home and shed it again when I get back so that my co-workers won't notice.

 

[wpotere]

I think he means I'm showing off my weight loss at work... which quite evades me how I can not do that. It's not like I can put on weight 5 minutes before leaving home and shed it again when I get back so that my co-workers won't notice.

See, there is the problem. We all know that you are staring at yourself in the mirror all day and the co-workers are getting tired of you hogging it. Stop being so damn narcissistic will ya?

Maybe you should wear one of these to work...

http://www.costumecity.com/fatsuit.html

 

[UTclassof89]

Now, let's talk about your "attitude"... Take this example you used from a previous post:

"no thanks; I don't need to inhale toxic products" sends the same message as "Hey, what kind of moron are you...[snip]?"

^Exactly this. Why not leave it at "no thanks."?

You probably think the rest is clever, and don't realize others interpret it as snark, in exactly the way your coworkers might think their barbs are clever, and may not even realize how mean-spirited it seems to you.

 

[KnightWRX]

^Exactly this. Why not leave it at "no thanks."?

You probably think the rest is clever, and don't realize others interpret it as snark, in exactly the way your coworkers might think their barbs are clever, and may not even realize how mean-spirited it seems to you.

And like I said thrice in this thread : If no one had come forward with similar examples in their own lives, I would maybe tend to see how you can make such a claim.

As it stands, others have come forward and stated they lived similar situations. Am I to assume all of these posters also have "attitude problems" like you hint I have ?

 

[UTclassof89]

Am I to assume all of these posters also have "attitude problems" like you hint I have ?

no. you've missed my point. I'm not suggesting an attitude problem (in fact I enjoy most of your posts precisely because they display articulate intelligence with a small dash of snarky condescension--it's very entertaining!)

But like others who've referenced your posting history here, I'm guessing that your comments to coworkers may include a dash of snark that's purely for *your* entertainment, and not for the betterment of the conversation.

We all do it from time to time.

So to the point of your OP, I'm suggesting that your (fat) coworkers' japes are meant more for entertaining themselves, than for a serious conversation, or beating up on you.

 

[Tomorrow]

I don't make fun of or judge fatties...I never EVER made fun of them...

You sure about that?

That's a bit like saying "I don't make fun of fa****s or n*****s."

Hey, feel free to say and/or think what you like - just don't deny doing it when it's right there.

 

[GoCubsGo]

I said ....

...snip...
As for the rest, it sounds like it's a combination of people feeling like you're consumed with this venture, ...snip

And you say ...

If only it were that. I never really discussed food before except recipes I would try and when I initiate talk of food these days, it's still about recipes I tried or want to try. They come from the same cookbooks as before and I never really discuss the health side of it either.

Otherwise, my lunch conversation topics have not changed from their usual social/politics/economics I had before. Maybe they are feeling "threatened" or something, or just don't like my success in this or wish they had the same.

Maybe my cold/passive objective answers to their japes are really not helping, maybe a different approach is in order. But I still don't get with it's only the fat people doing this. The thin/healthy people around me don't bother me about it at all.

I do think, given the amount of interaction you've had here alone, that you are likely consumed with this venture (which I don't think is incredibly horrible) to the point where you ostracize others. You claim it's only "fat people doing this" but I'd venture it is you who believes only "fat people" have an issue with your success. I'd venture that no one has an issue with it so much as you have forgotten that you were once a "fat person" and now you seem to have forgotten how nauseating it is to have someone sit around telling you about how unhealthy they are.

I know I'm fat, I know I'm unhealthy, and I know I'm slowly killing myself. I certainly don't need any assistance in figuring that out. I will say that I don't know you but I know the work you've done and I am very happy for you. However, I've picked up a line here and there in nearly every one of your posts (this thread only) and I sense that you have now taken on this tone that tells people you have zero respect for fat people because if you lost it, they should as well. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but you do come off as someone who wants to lead a movement but I think you're going about it all wrong. Focus this energy on a positive. Talk about your success to people who care and find another lunch time topic because my guess is we're only getting one side of a three-sided story.

Keep your head up, don't forget who you were and who you are but for God's sake, chill out. Your addiction has moved from food to whatever this is and while one is far healthier than the other, they're both addictions and should be curbed. I'll say it again though, I'd rather be addicted to eating right and losing weight than just about anything else.

 

[(marc)]

You sure about that?

That's a bit like saying "I don't make fun of fa****s or n*****s."

Hey, feel free to say and/or think what you like - just don't deny doing it when it's right there.

What are you supposed to say nowadays? Slightly bigger than thin? Undertall? They are fat and no amount of political correctness can talk all that fat away.

 

[Queen of Spades]

What are you supposed to say nowadays? Slightly bigger than thin? Undertall? They are fat and no amount of political correctness can talk all that fat away.

You honestly believe the term "fatties" isn't insulting? Not being condescending and judgmental isn't being politically correct, you know, it's being decent to another person.

 

[Tomorrow]

You honestly believe the term "fatties" isn't insulting? Not being condescending and judgmental isn't being politically correct, you know, it's being decent to another person.

Like I've said before, being overweight is the last thing people find okay to make fun of. It's wrong to make fun of someone's race, gender, sexual orientation, or many other things, but since being fat is a choice, they're fair game, right? </sarcasm>

 

[wpotere]

What are you supposed to say nowadays? Slightly bigger than thin? Undertall? They are fat and no amount of political correctness can talk all that fat away.

I have to agree, if we sugar coat it they will just eat it.

OK, that was just wrong but I couldn't resist. That being said, I do agree. Fat is fat and there is a huge difference the using the N word or F word as this is a condition that can generally (there are some medical conditions) be corrected and controlled. People have just gotten lazy and need to start owing it.

Nobody said that we were making fun of them. It isn't like I walk up to people and say "hey fatso, what's up?"but if they ask, I will say tell them that they are fat and also offer to help them lose it. I don't use sugar coated words because people will just blow it off. Being PC is so 90's.

 

[Queen of Spades]

Like I've said before, being overweight is the last thing people find okay to make fun of. It's wrong to make fun of someone's race, gender, sexual orientation, or many other things, but since being fat is a choice, they're fair game, right? </sarcasm>

What I really can't understand is why anyone feels the need to condescend to or bag on another person at all. No one is perfect. It just so happens that this particular struggle is more visible - but I guarantee you everyone has their own. I guarantee you a fat person is well aware that they are fat and don't need "helpful" citizens pointing it out. I would never walk up to someone who smokes and yell out something or insult people coming out of AA meetings. It's really dumb. Mind your own business, be good to people, and live your own life.

Someone else being fat doesn't harm you, and in case anyone is about to bring up the misleading fact that fat people cost more money in the healthcare system - smokers actually cost the most. And we might as well go after women who have tons of kids, the unemployed, welfare recipients, etc. I was overweight, and I never had to visit the doctors office for anything.

 

[wpotere]

Someone else being fat isn't bother you

Actually it was... I was on a flight once and a fat guy was sitting in the middle seat. As he went to sit down he lifted the arm rest and then basically sat on me. I asked him to move and he got offended. So I called the flight attendant and asked for 50% off my ticket as I was clearly only sitting in 50% of my seat. It is easy to say that they aren't bothering you but sadly life is not that simple and some of them feel the need to make an issue out of their weight. I also pay higher insurance premiums because of peoples weight so I take issue with that as well. Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone but it does for the vast majority sadly.

 

[Iscariot]

…attack me instead of reading through the thread and answering with educated responses. I see you would rather join their ranks rather than form an opinion.
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if you're only here to derail the thread and attack me, please take it elsewhere. …
a big "let's bitch on KnightWRX" fest.

Suggesting that you apply introspection to a problem that is obviously bothering you quite a bit is hardly "attacking" or "bitching on" you. Your defensive response does, however, lend support to the opinions other posters have expressed about you. Rather than lash out again, perhaps you ought to give some thought to what they have to say, and consider what you could do differently to solve this problem on your end.