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The stand is subjectively important; for example, I have no need for a VESA mount. Regardless, I already said that the stand is the only part of the SD that is inferior to the LG 5K.
If I set my chair height so that my arms have the right angle using my keyboard, the non-height adjustable Studio Display is too low by 8". The hight adjustable one, at the maximum height, is too low by 4".

I am taller than the average person, but hardly a giant and my choices are:

1) Get a VESA mount.
2) Put books or something under the stand to raise it up higher.
3) Risk spinal damage from sitting for long hours with bad posture.

I'm sure as hell not going choose option 3. And option 2 isn't very appealing either (anyone who's happy with books under a display is likely to be happy with a cheaper one than this).

So if I was to buy one of these displays I'd be getting a VESA mount as a requirement, not as a "subjective" decision.

I also sit near a window - which makes working long hours at a desk more tolerable. Unfortunately it means the nano texture coating is also a requirement. I currently use an iMac and the glossy finish makes it almost unusable at times. Thankfully I have a cheap external display attached to my iMac.
 
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Does the 32" XDR need updates? I dono think so. Imagine having two of or three of these Studio Displays (like they showed in the release videos) and needing update them all just because … they have a web cam? Oh wait, folks needing 2-3 displays are likely not gonna buy two or three of these, or even one.
 
Does the 32" XDR need updates? I dono think so. Imagine having two of or three of these Studio Displays (like they showed in the release videos) and needing update them all just because … they have a web cam? Oh wait, folks needing 2-3 displays are likely not gonna buy two or three of these, or even one.
It literally does

 
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Can we please remember how many horrific designs entered the market under Steve Jobs' reign at apple? I know this may sound like heresy to some, but even St. Jobs had a very much mixed track record.
True, but he made up for it with crazy good innovation, and he would not let Apple continue slipping for as long as they have. Remember, he fired the entire iTools team and turnover at the exec ranks was fairly frequent... He didn’t tolerate mediocrity the way Tim Cook does.

Apple has been sliding for years now… less innovation, less quality, and insanely high prices on some products that remind me of the John Sculley days. This will eventually catch up to them at some point.
 
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Jumping right in here.... Received my Mac Studio with Studio Display 5 days ago. Received alert for Apple Display software firmware update 15.4 and got the same error message that firmware couldn't be completed.
Called Apple tech, spend 3h on the phone with them.. They had me do all kinds of things, at one point my screen didn't even come on anymore. Eventually they said they would need to talk to an Apple engineer and get back to me next week. I wasn't even aware about the poor webcam quality, which I just checked... no words... it's horrible.

Same thing happened to me. Leave it on, pull the Thunderbolt cable from BOTH the monitor and the computer, then plug it back in and wait. Mine sat dead for the better part of an hour, then all of a sudden it started updating again and finished successfully. Let it sit overnight if you have to. Good luck!
 
Apple‘s Mac product line is in the best place it has been since the early 2010s. I say this and I’m a very critical person.

The laptop lineup, thanks to the Apple Silicon transition and several 180s in industrial design since Ive stepped down, is in fantastic shape. Consequently, laptops are the bread-n-butter of traditional computer sales for the last two decades.

The desktop lineup, where it has been transitioned, is fantastic too. The only qualms I have is the decision to end the 27in AIO desktop. We can’t be certain that was a market supply chain reaction or strategic decision-making by Apple though. Hard to imagine their sales data said the 27in iMac was not a winner. Frankly, the over-engineering of the Apple Studio Display suggests they may have been trying to fit a computer inside it but didn’t have the scale on M1 Pro/Max to release it.
 
I just don't understand how a product can go on sale and have issues like this and the webcam.

This seems to be an anomaly. Apple normally waits until everything is perfect before they ship a product. I can't imagine that they didn't know about the camera problem. My guess is that they knew about it, were working on a fix, but were tied down by the Mac Studio release date. Needed to have their monitor to go with it. So in an unusual step they released the display before the camera issues were fixed and decided to take the flack.
 
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This seems to be an anomaly. Apple normally waits until everything is perfect before they ship a product. I can't imagine that they didn't know about the camera problem. My guess is that they knew about it, were working on a fix, but were tied down by the Mac Studio release date. Needed to have their monitor to go with it. So in an unusual step they released the display before the camera issues were fixed and decided to take the flack.

You mean Apple pulled an Apple? Really bugs me the way they do that…
 
I was able to update my Studio Display without any issues. My Mac is a MacBook Pro 14" M1 Max on macOS Monterey 12.3.1. The display restarted a couple of times and displayed a message that it was going to do so.
 
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Jesus is there a single software product release from apple in the last decade that didn’t have dramas or bugs that are so obvious that you gotta wonder if they test at all?

It’s really, really getting bad. I remember in the mid 2000 when their software was rock solid, now it’s a disgrace.
 
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It's a display. Why does a display need a firmware upgrade?
Bought a Philips 23" WUXGA monitor in 2004. Great purchase. Never fails. No SW updates required. Only need to dust it off once in a while ... with a regular cloth :) .
Monitors get updates reasonably often. I have an LG ultrawide and Samsung Odyssey monitor that both get regular firmware updates. You copy them to a flash drive, stick them in a USB port, and you tell the monitor to update. It was quite important for the Odyssey since it shipped with a bug that prevented 240Hz refresh on Nvidia cards. Considering that was the monitor’s biggest selling point, not allowing monitor firmware updates would have killed the whole reason for the monitor.

Everything electronic can get firmware updates. Have you ever updated the firmware on your TV? Your DVD player? Why should a monitor be exempt?
 
My $400 dell 165 Hz 27 inch 1440p monitor with gsync and AMD freesync with a height adjustable stand and various displayport and hdmi inputs has NEVER had this problem. $1600 for what??? You gotta be kidding me.
I had an update for my LG ultrawide 38” ultrawide monitor. The update kept failing. Turned out I was putting it in the wrong USB port. I was doing it wrong.
 
A full fledge computer driving a monitor… I am now on the fence again when it comes to replacing my iMac in the next year or so
Ever looked inside any modern TV? They’re all full fledged computers, complete with CPU’s, RAM, storage and firmware upgrades. I dare say there isn’t a single piece of electronics out there that isn’t a computer. Your car is probably a computer, unless it’s about 20 years old. An A13 is probably overkill for this monitor but I’m pretty sure Apple just wanted to leverage the development already done on iOS/iPadOS for Center Stage, Spatial Audio, and Siri. They figured it was easier to just use iOS/iPadOS to drive it to save on development costs of having to do it again for another chip.
 
I admit that I ordered one (I have been waiting for this product so long) and I am still waiting for delivery.
Also I still believe it's a great product (and the camera issue will be addressed), but the whole ARM64 processor 64 GB memory design seems to be an overkill to me.
It probably is, but as a programmer, what Apple did kind of makes sense. The monitor’s three main selling points are a webcam with Center Stage, Spatial Audio, and Siri. Apple’s written and debugged much of that software already in iOS and iPadOS and didn’t want to write it again for some non A-series processor. To save development costs, they re-used code they’d already written. But in order to run that code, they needed an A-series processor. The oldest, cheapest one Apple was still making was the A13 with 64GB on the package, which they were using for the iPhone 11 and iPhone SE 2. They leveraged hardware and software already existing, which made their choices make a lot more sense.

I’m betting the bug in the Center Stage software was due to the fact this is a 27” monitor while all other Center Stage-capable devices are all 12.9” or smaller. The much larger screen exposes the fact that all Center Stage webcams aren’t that great, but it shows up a lot more on a bigger screen. If Apple does something to fix Center Stage on this monitor, I’m betting those same fixes will go into iPadOS to improve Center Stage on the iPads, too.
 
It probably is, but as a programmer, what Apple did kind of makes sense. The monitor’s three main selling points are a webcam with Center Stage, Spatial Audio, and Siri. Apple’s written and debugged much of that software already in iOS and iPadOS and didn’t want to write it again for some non A-series processor. To save development costs, they re-used code they’d already written. But in order to run that code, they needed an A-series processor. The oldest, cheapest one Apple was still making was the A13 with 64GB on the package, which they were using for the iPhone 11 and iPhone SE 2. They leveraged hardware and software already existing, which made their choices make a lot more sense.

I’m betting the bug in the Center Stage software was due to the fact this is a 27” monitor while all other Center Stage-capable devices are all 12.9” or smaller. The much larger screen exposes the fact that all Center Stage webcams aren’t that great, but it shows up a lot more on a bigger screen. If Apple does something to fix Center Stage on this monitor, I’m betting those same fixes will go into iPadOS to improve Center Stage on the iPads, too.
An intriguing hypothesis...
 
But does it really run iOS?
Probably not. More likely it runs a stripped down version of iPadOS since iPhones don’t have Center Stage and iPads do. You’ll notice the build numbers for iPadOS and iOS are the same. What Apple likely did was take all the libraries the monitor doesn’t need and strip them out, leaving only the libraries that handle the features the monitor handles, e.g. Center Stage, Spatial Audio, and Siri. Everything else is useless and is likely removed.
 
Actually transpired to be quite a simple issue - Apple stopped signing iOS 15.4 on the 7th April (and therefore the latest OS the Studio Display runs). Thus the firmware update was no longer signed and trusted meaning it wouldn't install.


Not sure I really understand this nonsense about a device being capable of receiving regular updates being a bad thing? Anyway if that is correct - should be good to update now.
 
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