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Do you really think a tramp stamp is literally a tattoo?

You know that tramp stamps are tattoos just above the ass, right?

I honestly never heard of the term "tramp stamp." This is the first actual piece of information I've learned in this entire thread. Now I know what to call them when I see them.
 
If you're stupid enough to have a tramp stamp plastered all over your body, this is not the product for you. Walk on.

If you're stupid enough to judge other people for what they do with their OWN bodies, and decide for them what products they should and should not use.

Apple products probably aren't for you because from what I've seen, Apple is company that doesn't judge and doesn't care what you do.
 
I wonder if wearing earrings affected signal strength on the iPhone if we'd see this same level of ignorance.

"WELL LADIES THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR TRYING TO LOOK COOL WITH YOUR EARRINGS LOLLL NO SMART LADY WOULD EVER PIERCE HOLES IN HER SKIN, SO DUMB!"
 
The color of the tattoo in exactly that spot likely has a lot to do with it. Red is probably the culprit.

I'll ask my good friend. He's a world famous tattoo artist (does my work) I'm sure it's the denser inks that need to be packed in, like heavy blacks and maybe red, since a lot of people are allergic to red ink.
 
Expecting a company to serve the whim of particular public over all others is being entitled and arrogant; that's what I see here. I've got four tattoos myself that I got in the 1980s to early 90s; none big and and two visible. One on my wrist, just above the watch, other larger one on the shoulder.

I'm a senior engineer/director and those tasteful visible tattoos have always been conversation pieces rather than a detriment. I understand that more garish, larger tattoos may be an issue in certain workplaces.

If by chance mine would have been bigger and under the band, I wouldn't be whining like some of the people with their tiny violins that I've heard. I'd assume my choices and move on; if I really wanted to get the watch, there is always laser to remove just this small sport...

Exactly.
 
Not sure if this has been posted here yet (reply count increasing faster than I can keep up with), but Apple did state that the heart rate monitor may not work with everyone on one of their support pages: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204666

Even under ideal conditions, Apple Watch may not be able to get a reliable heart rate reading every time for everybody. And for a small percentage of users, various factors may make it impossible to get any heart rate reading at all.

Although, you do have to do a bit of hunting to find this page, and they don't specifically mention tattoos. Despite not being very upfront about it, they do make sure to note that they don't claim it will work for everyone.
 
I think they should issue a disclaimer if this claim is true. I also see lots of people with tattoos every day, so it would be common enough that some potential customers should be forewarned.

Like every other product rollout in history, not every situation is going to be anticipated and addressed up-front. I agree with you, and I would hope this does get verified and documented properly, if true.
 
I'll ask my good friend. He's a world famous tattoo artist (does my work) I'm sure it's the denser inks that need to be packed in, like heavy blacks and maybe red, since a lot of people are allergic to red ink.

The way the green light works is by being absorbed or reflected by red. Since black would "contain" red, maybe that could be a problem too. Not going to speculate too much but there may or may not be a workaround for the problem. It's a shame, an unforeseen consequence of having a tattoo on your wrist...those people will likely have to return their watches until someone comes up with a tattoo proof sensor but that could be a long while. I could see Apple allowing the watch to be unlocked for windows of time for these people as an option, but you would lose some of the security features.
 
As for the tattoo argument, if you are ignorant enough to think that simply having tattoos makes you a bad person or a lesser person than someone else, you're probably not the kind of person Apple or pretty much any company wants to market products for.
 
Tatoo a black Apple Watch with links band on your wrist and you just saved $1,000... Heck, let's make it gold and save $10,000 more!
 
I love the hypocrisy. Here you have Apple, a company who works tirelessly to craft their 'cool' image of silhouetted kids in "urban" attire rocking out with earbuds, kicks and backpacks that appeals to the vanilla business crowd and helps them feel more hip and edgy.. but tattoos? Oh my, that's pushing the envelope isn't it! Look we're ok with afros and sneakers and other "exotic" things to the standard suburban 9-5 pencil pusher, but ink is CROSSING THE LINE.

I love Apple, but its fandom is just the worst.
 
Not sure if this has been posted here yet (reply count increasing faster than I can keep up with), but Apple did state that the heart rate monitor may not work with everyone on one of their support pages: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204666



Although, you do have to do a bit of hunting to find this page, and they don't specifically mention tattoos. Despite not being very upfront about it, they do make sure to note that they don't claim it will work for everyone.

That's why the return period exists :). They probably tested with a wide range or skins and people, but when a product gets released in the wild, it will be used by people with "special" wrists they probably didn't know existed (though I'm sure they knew tattoos did exist ;-)
 
It's very likely that they did, but what can you do about it. As someone mentioned, it uses green light to detect the blood flow. You can't exactly change physics because a small percentage of people might be affected by it.

change to yellow or orange light?
 
Return the watch or resell it

Tattoo art has come a long way when done well. And there are certainly nice tattoos that represent people's preferences and tastes. Sleeve tattoos represent that you are not going to try to hide your tattoos you just want them displayed.

However, they are not a natural part of your physiology and any sensor based on normal biometric light sensitivity may not be able to get around this.

So Apple should add an option to disable these capabilities or people should return the watch if this bothers them. No use reading bad data.

Tattoos were a decision made by people and they have to live with them. A sleeve tattoo takes a long time and are hardly done on impulse.
 
I'd be willing to bet if it came out that Steve Jobs or Tim Cook had tattoos half of the people in this thread would be running to the nearest parlor to get inked. :p
 
I have a tattoo but not one around my wrist.

But didn't I just read that tattoo ink has metals in it?

True?

I don't get all this "how come Apple didn't think of this" bs?

Like "hipsters" would wear the watch anyway - #
 
No, there are companies with no tattoo policies. Starbucks just two months ago altered their tattoo policy to allow visible tattoos while working.

Being inked is not a protected class.

LOl, I guess they don't have issue with lip rings and elephant hole ears.
 
I love the hypocrisy. Here you have Apple, a company who works tirelessly to craft their 'cool' image of silhouetted kids in "urban" attire rocking out with earbuds, kicks and backpacks that appeals to the vanilla business crowd and helps them feel more hip and edgy.. but tattoos? Oh my, that's pushing the envelope isn't it! Look we're ok with afros and sneakers and other "exotic" things to the standard suburban 9-5 pencil pusher, but ink is CROSSING THE LINE.

I love Apple, but its fandom is just the worst.

I'd say like with most things it's a very small miniority of individuals that think like that and it certainly isn't apples responsibility to control its 'fans'. At no point did apple think of designing a product that may or may not work with tattoos (I take these articles with a little bit of caution till fully proven). I imagine 99% of apple buyers & any other brand are perfectly normal individuals who luckily for them aren't aware of forums & the dramas that go with them...
 
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