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Do you really think Apple is discriminating against tattoo'ed users or that some inks just don't work well with this pretty new technology?

My comment is aimed at users in this thread saying Apple shouldn't take into consideration those with ink. I guarantee Apple will release a software update to resolve this.. if not the 2nd gen watch will definitely resolve it - I absolutely guarantee it.
 
The apologies keep on rolling.

Pathetic.

Wait, you're under the impression that anyone should need to apologize for using the same sensor every other company does? Ok, I see you know very little about this technology and how prolific it is...there, I apologized for you.
 
It's absolutely not a strawman. It's a completely valid comparison because we are dealing with the issue at hand:

If GOOGLE WEAR had issues with this, are you honestly saying you would be defending Google with the same rigor you have with Apple?

Not a strawman at all.

w00master

Of course she wouldn't be defending them.
 
Wait, you're under the impression that anyone should need to apologize for using the same sensor every other company does? Ok, I see you know very little about this technology and how prolific it is...there, I apologized for you.

No, I expect apple to cover some fairly common use cases, which they clearly didn't with this.

There, I didn't apolgize for you. Quit apologizing for apple.

If this were Google, how would you react?

w00master
 
I have a theory that the more tattoos a person has the less smart they are, and vice versa.

Look at Asians. Very few of them have tattoos. Most of them are smart.
Look at athletes and criminals. Almost all of them have tattoos. None of them are smart.

So Asians don't play sports or commit crimes? Also, the history of tattooing in Asian cultures goes back centuries and includes tattooing for decorative and spiritual reasons.

Again, Tattoos are a common thing.

Tattoos are common, but tattoos that specifically cover the wrist are much, much less common. I do agree that it's surprising that no one at Apple would've wondered if the sensor could penetrate a tattoo and tested it out.
 
what is wrong with all these ******** tattoo-defenders?

i am 99% sure Apple did not cross out tattoo wearers on PURPOSE. but the sensors work by emitting a green light - if you are having a green skin (by tattooing it) then it should be expected that the function of the sensors is to be compromised. The last time I checked 99% of the people dont have green or colored wrists. Should apple just drop the product because it does not work for the smallest subset of people?

And stop comparing it to race. It doesnt matter if you are white or black - you are still on the same (red-ish) spectrum of skin colors. Which race in the world has green skin?
 
Like I said in my first post, for me, it wouldn't be a big deal, I mean I would never buy an Apple Watch to use the heart rate monitor.

I might use it once for sh**s and giggles, but after that it'd be a feature in the background.

It still should work on everyone regardless though, despite if it's not a big deal for me.

I mean Apple employees have tattoos, it'd be kind of embarrassing to see a demo on an employee and it doesn't work right. That would kind of leave a bad taste in your mouth.
 
Fellas, I need to be out of here at 3 EST.... at this rate, I'm never gonna get out of here. Stop with the comedy already! Seriously, I'd pay MR for this.
 
hahahahahahahhaha, perhaps the most unanticipated apple watch problem. really never expect that to pop up.

Not unexpected in the least, it's a known limit of the sensor. The ones that go on your finger don't work if you have nail polish on either.
 
No, I expect apple to cover some fairly common use cases, which they clearly didn't with this.

There, I didn't apolgize for you. Quit apologizing for apple.

If this were Google, how would you react?

w00master

Considering they use the same technology, they didn't catch it either, and they DO have the same problem. It wasn't until Apple put out a successful product that this has even seemed to come up....but you're here ready to point fingers at JUST Apple.
 
How does someone with "Job Repellant" all over their arm afford an Apple Watch anyway?

Also can't wait to hear about #armgate from people that don't have arms. How dare Apple make a watch when they don't have arms.
 
Are we arguing about tattoos (who cares what other people do to their bodies) or the Apple Watch not working well with full-sleeve and wrist tattoos (hey, not everything can be accounted for)?

I'm confused. Not sure what's wrong with having a tattoo, though I personally do not.

Based on what I've seen so far, seems mostly like people with tattoos defending themselves against non-existent accusers and some troll who just learned of the word "apologist."

I don't see anything wrong with having tattoos, so long as it doesn't incite any sort of violence near me. It sucks that they can get in the way of fitness sensors.
 
what is wrong with all these ******** tattoo-defenders?

i am 99% sure Apple did not cross out tattoo wearers on PURPOSE. but the sensors work by emitting a green light - if you are having a green skin (by tattooing it) then it should be expected that the function of the sensors is to be compromised. The last time I checked 99% of the people dont have green or colored wrists. Should apple just drop the product because it does not work for the smallest subset of people?

And stop comparing it to race. It doesnt matter if you are white or black - you are still on the same (red-ish) spectrum of skin colors. Which race in the world has green skin?

Maybe they should issue a disclaimer that it won't work on tattooed skin.
 
Oh yes, indeed. I can fully accept that.
However, this is not something that people should now be by chance finding out at random after paying and waiting for these items to be delivered to them.

As Tattoo's on the body are not THAT amazingly rare, and there must be tens of thousands of iPhone users with tattoo's and a small percentage of those may have an arm tattoo which may be in this area.

It should of been highlighted at point of sale that this may be an issue, and not just kept quite about and hope.

If Arm Sleeve Tatts people really want to use the Apple watch, I guess they're just going to have to make a choice...
1. Get some tatts removed
2. Not buy over priced gadget
 
Yes!

Based on what I've seen so far, seems mostly like people with tattoos defending themselves against non-existent accusers and some troll who just learned of the word "apologist."

I don't see anything wrong with having tattoos, so long as it doesn't incite any sort of violence near me. It sucks that they can get in the way of fitness sensors.

Finally, some logic and reasonable thinking, especially those last two sentences.
 
Considering they use the same technology, they didn't catch it either, and they DO have the same problem. It wasn't until Apple put out a successful product that this has even seemed to come up....but you're here ready to point fingers at JUST Apple.

I place same blame on those other manufacturers then. I even called it out on the Verge article you posted. My point was that Apple (being a fan of this company) is supposed to "Think Different" and go on a mantra of "It just works."

It just "didn't" work in this case.

Yes, I am calling out Apple on this. Tattoos are a common thing. No, not everyone has it, but enough of the population does, and the fact that Apple, Fit Bit, MS, etc. didn't think through of this is pathetic. Pure and simple.

w00master
 
wow... after reading through 12 pages of this thread, i'm a little ashamed of owning apple products today, if this is how some of my fellow apple owners are reacting to someone who might look a little different than they do... :(

so much for tim cook's equality initiative...
 
How does someone with "Job Repellant" all over their arm afford an Apple Watch anyway?

Also can't wait to hear about #armgate from people that don't have arms. How dare Apple make a watch when they don't have arms.

Do you not realize tattoos costs thousands and thousands of dollars? Where do you think these people get their money?

Nothing says "job repellant" more than being an imbecile. (Also, the same people with "job repellant" on their body, WORK at Apple, like what the hell is this logic anyway)

I'm sure Apple would much rather hire someone with tattoos than someone who judges people on their life choices.
 
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