Someone explain Hermes to me, and what the benefit is of getting it over regular SS AW?

[bob24]

Would I buy an Hermes watch? Naw because the battery will degrade overtime. Would I buy an Hermes bag? Sure.

Yeah unfortunately (IMO) Apple Watches are not designed to last very long at all.

Owning an Hermès band which can be reused with future Apple Watches though? Why not? (although the fact that a “watch” can become some kind consumable and its band a more permanent item brings into question whether the Apple Watch deserves to be called a watch).

 

[JahBoolean]

Echoing what has been said previously.

I own an Hermès belt (toujours cachée) that I have been running into the ground wearing everyday for the last two years and some of my relatives own their fair share of Birkins.

But I could not for the life of me justify paying extra for the stainless steel let alone the Hermès version for what is as far as I am concerned a consumable, as for the band, if I ever jump back on the smartwatch band wagon, I cannot justify having stainless steel lugs on an aluminium body either.

Oh well..

Always was more of a Cartier man myself, the swatch has been serving me well lately ?

 

[PanAm-L1011]

I highly doubt they use their best materials on watch straps or cases.

I highly doubt they DON’T use their best materials on the watch straps. Hermès is the greatest luxury brand in the world, and there’s no way they would not uphold their standards on any product that bares their name.

I sprung for the Hermès addition this time and I’m so glad I did. I also sprung for two extra bands, because when I saw and experienced the amazing quality of the band the watch came with, I was hooked. These bands are without compare the best made, have the best materials, and are the most comfortable of all bands.

I didn’t buy it for anyone else, I bought it for me. Anyone who sees it just thinks it‘s the regular SS watch. Only one person asked if it was Hermès because they recognized the brand. I love when I look at it and how stunning it is. That’s all that matters to me.

 

[PanAm-L1011]

Your drift is not cool at all.

The Apple Watch is essentially a fitness tracker.

For you maybe. Not for me. Not for everyone. First, for me, it is a watch. It’s main purpose is so I can see the time when I want to. Secondly, I use it for messages, phone calls, music, home alarm notifications, weather, calculator, timer, calendar, reminders, and ECG/Heart Rate monitor. I almost never use it as a fitness tracker. I work out and I don’t care what the activity measures say on the watch.

It does come down to affordability whether someone can afford it or not. I can afford a Birkin bag from a dollar perspective, but I’d have to drain a huge chunk of my savings to do it. Would I buy one? No. I’d rather buy YSL, Balmain and Burberry bags than Hermès bags.

I bought the Hermès watch and I’m glad I did. I love it. It brings me joy. I don’t care about resale value. If I keep it for two years it comes down to a few dollars a day.

 

[PanAm-L1011]

It does not offend my sensibilities. All I keep thinking is the kind of gentry who would, either while mingling about or at the table, zone in and zoom in on a person's watch jutting out or hiding around a cuff and judge the wearer on the basis of aluminum or stainless instead of, maybe, doing more important things such as conducting business or whatever the setting is about.

I’m curious as to why you have such an issue with the Hermès watch and apparently those of us who buy it. You wonder about other people judging one for having an aluminum watch, but you seem to be the one doing the judging here.

The aluminum won’t cut it for me anymore either. I had the aluminum 1, 3 and 5 and this is the first time I sprung for SS. I don’t judge those who still choose aluminum, I never would, and I don’t judge people period - it’s such a waste of energy. It’s just that after seeing how much more I like the SS version, and how much more elevated to me it is, I will never go back to aluminum. I will also likely continue to purchase the Hermès version going forward as well. It makes me feel happy and good when I wear it, and that’s all that matters.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

To those who have the Hermes watches, enjoy them. They won’t appeal to everybody but that’s like anything. Nothing needs to be justified as long as you’ve bought them for your own personal enjoyment.

As someone who collected mechanical watches for years, you soon learn that watch enthusiasts are few and far between. If you buy a watch for others admiration, you’re on to a loser I’m afraid. Wear well and enjoy. Merry Christmas

 

[Itinj24]

It does not offend my sensibilities. All I keep thinking is the kind of gentry who would, either while mingling about or at the table, zone in and zoom in on a person's watch jutting out or hiding around a cuff and judge the wearer on the basis of aluminum or stainless instead of, maybe, doing more important things such as conducting business or whatever the setting is about.

It’s apparent you are not in business. Yes, you are being judged from the car you pull up in to the clothes you’re wearing to the Watch or jewelry you have on. If you look cheap, then you look like a failure and people will be reluctant to do business with you. That’s just the way it is.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It’s apparent you are not in business. Yes, you are being judged from the car you pull up in to the clothes you’re wearing to the Watch or jewelry you have on. If you look cheap, then you look like a failure and people will be reluctant to do business with you. That’s just the way it is.

People aren’t going to think you look cheap just because you’re not wearing a Hermes AW though. The aluminium Watch is by far the most worn of the range and that original post suggested it wouldn’t cut it with professionals. I hate to break it to people here but it’s does and is demonstrated every single day in the workplace and boardroom. Most people don’t give a toss what watch you’ve got on unless they are specifically interested in watches. The guy who owns the company I work for is in the top 5% of the richest people in the Netherlands and uses an iPhone XS lol. If people are in business and judge at face value, they aren’t usually very successful in the long term.

 

[Itinj24]

People aren’t going to think you look cheap just because you’re not wearing a Hermes AW though. The aluminium Watch is by far the most worn of the range and that original post suggested it wouldn’t cut it with professionals. I hate to break it to people here but it’s does and is demonstrated every single day in the workplace and boardroom. Most people don’t give a toss what watch you’ve got on unless they are specifically interested in watches. The guy who owns the company I work for is in the top 5% of the richest people in the Netherlands and uses an iPhone XS lol. If people are in business and judge at face value, they aren’t usually very successful in the long term.

i hate to break it to you but here in the US, people are judged. I can assure you that these people are successful too. Lol

 

[tenordrum]

Fortunately for me, my clients judged me more by my performance than the type of watch I was (or wasn't) wearing. I am now retired, but the DC and NYC area clients I served included some very successful business owners. As president of the firm I tried to make sure our staff was more concerned about function than form, even though both are important.

The clients probably cared more about the fact that I would buy them Johnnie Walker Blue at the bar than if I wore a blue aluminum watch.

 

[PanAm-L1011]

i hate to break it to you but here in the US, people are judged. I can assure you that these people are successful too. Lol

No one is going to be judged based on what Apple Watch they are wearing. That’s silly.

I consider myself a successful person. I have a good career and I make good money, but I don’t judge people based on where they live, the car they drive, the clothes they wear or the watch they wear. Sure cleanliness and looking nice are one thing, but you don’t have to spend money to be clean or look nice.

 

[macintoshmac]

It’s apparent you are not in business. Yes, you are being judged from the car you pull up in to the clothes you’re wearing to the Watch or jewelry you have on. If you look cheap, then you look like a failure and people will be reluctant to do business with you. That’s just the way it is.

You are being judged by how you carry yourself. Not how you drape or the brand tags on your person.

 

[macintoshmac]

I’m curious as to why you have such an issue with the Hermès watch and apparently those of us who buy it. You wonder about other people judging one for having an aluminum watch, but you seem to be the one doing the judging here.

The aluminum won’t cut it for me anymore either. I had the aluminum 1, 3 and 5 and this is the first time I sprung for SS. I don’t judge those who still choose aluminum, I never would, and I don’t judge people period - it’s such a waste of energy. It’s just that after seeing how much more I like the SS version, and how much more elevated to me it is, I will never go back to aluminum. I will also likely continue to purchase the Hermès version going forward as well. It makes me feel happy and good when I wear it, and that’s all that matters.

I might have said it before, but I’m saying again - I have zero issues how people spend their money, and how they think other people perceive them.

I personally think that if I am in front of someone, and they’re impressed with what’s on my person rather than what I am offering them, they need help more than I need their business or they need mine. That’s all.

With the logic I’m seeing here, let’s have a murderer be dressed in Gucci and wear a Hermes and stand in front of a judge, let’s have their lawyer present an argument to look at this person and tell the world if we think they are a murderer. Let the lawyer call upon people to look at the Hermes they’re wearing. Surely, a man of such exquisite taste couldn’t and wouldn’t be a murderer, right? After all, we judge by what’s on the person, yes? That’s what people are telling me here, no? That’s how absurd I find those mentalities who are noticing people outwardly to be. Why not judge a person for a crime they did or didn’t commit, based on that Hermes then? And that’s all I said.

A Hermes is not important enough in my life, valuable enough in my life for me to have such passionate defence about it. Humanity and values of humanity that I try to uphold and wish more upon the world is what I am passionate about. Not a disposable piece of tech that’s gonna get outdated and superseded in a few months.

I don’t conduct business with a person just because they flashed a Mac or Hermes on their person. That’s just me. As I see, others might be. Good for them.

 

[macintoshmac]

For you maybe. Not for me. Not for everyone. First, for me, it is a watch. It’s main purpose is so I can see the time when I want to. Secondly, I use it for messages, phone calls, music, home alarm notifications, weather, calculator, timer, calendar, reminders, and ECG/Heart Rate monitor. I almost never use it as a fitness tracker. I work out and I don’t care what the activity measures say on the watch.

It does come down to affordability whether someone can afford it or not. I can afford a Birkin bag from a dollar perspective, but I’d have to drain a huge chunk of my savings to do it. Would I buy one? No. I’d rather buy YSL, Balmain and Burberry bags than Hermès bags.

I bought the Hermès watch and I’m glad I did. I love it. It brings me joy. I don’t care about resale value. If I keep it for two years it comes down to a few dollars a day.

It’s okay, we are allowed our opinions, and to miss each other’s points.

 

[macintoshmac]

One more thing - I don’t know if people should trust me if I hire employees based on the cars they pull out of or the watches they wear instead of their competitiveness, creativity and capabilities.

 

[wilberforce]

No one is going to be judged based on what Apple Watch they are wearing. That’s silly.

I consider myself a successful person. I have a good career and I make good money, but I don’t judge people based on where they live, the car they drive, the clothes they wear or the watch they wear. Sure cleanliness and looking nice are one thing, but you don’t have to spend money to be clean or look nice.

Some professions are definitely judged on what they wear, drive, etc., and for good reason.
Looking successful implies being successful, and if you need professional assistance you want to hire someone who is successful, not someone struggling. Many lawyers, real estate agents, financial consultants know this, so have designer suits, expensive watches, luxury cars, mahogany offices, to imply that they are successful at what they do, and thus imply you would benefit by hiring them.
My wife's surgeon drives a Bentley, parked outside his office. He is also exceptionally good at what he does.
I know a plastic surgeon who has a $10 million hilltop estate and used to throw giant parties in it deliberately to flaunt it. He is one of the most sought (and best) plastic surgeons in California.
These are symbols of success.
Realistically, no Apple watch cuts it. Not even close. In fact, an Apple watch would be seen as a sign of a lack of success.

 

[Night Spring]

There's some validity to the argument that you should look the part. On the other hand, it's also true that driving an expensive car or owning expensive mansions don't really correlate to one's skills in any profession. You can own expensive cars and mansions simply because your family is rich, not because you've earned them through your talents and hard work.

Successful people aren't all the same. Some might buy expensive houses, cars, suits, etc, to signal their success. Others might buy the same things, but just out of their personal enjoyment of the fine things. Still others might choose to spend their earnings on advancing their causes, and live a more modest lifestyle.

As for Apple Watch, while it's not as expensive as a Rolex or other expensive classic watches, it does signal some things -- maybe you are keeping up with new technology. Maybe you are fitness conscious. You can't say an Apple Watch always means one thing, both to the person wearing it, or to the people who might use that as a clue to size up someone.

 

[wilberforce]

There's some validity to the argument that you should look the part. On the other hand, it's also true that driving an expensive car or owning expensive mansions don't really correlate to one's skills in any profession. You can own expensive cars and mansions simply because your family is rich, not because you've earned them through your talents and hard work.

Successful people aren't all the same. Some might buy expensive houses, cars, suits, etc, to signal their success. Others might buy the same things, but just out of their personal enjoyment of the fine things. Still others might choose to spend their earnings on advancing their causes, and live a more modest lifestyle.

As for Apple Watch, while it's not as expensive as a Rolex or other expensive classic watches, it does signal some things -- maybe you are keeping up with new technology. Maybe you are fitness conscious. You can't say an Apple Watch always means one thing, both to the person wearing it, or to the people who might use that as a clue to size up someone.

I agree with this. Looking successful doesn't actually mean one is good at what one does. But it can definitely help certain professions. Just like marketing.
I personally am skeptical of flashy success symbols and flashy marketing; I feel that I am being duped. But there is no denying they work.

 

[macintoshmac]

Looking successful implies being successful, and if you need professional assistance you want to hire someone who is successful, not someone struggling. Many lawyers, real estate agents, financial consultants know this, so have designer suits, expensive watches, luxury cars, mahogany offices, to imply that they are successful at what they do, and thus imply you would benefit by hiring them.
My wife's surgeon drives a Bentley, parked outside his office. He is also exceptionally good at what he does.
I know a plastic surgeon who has a $10 million hilltop estate and used to throw giant parties in it deliberately to flaunt it. He is one of the most sought (and best) plastic surgeons in California.
These are symbols of success.
Realistically, no Apple watch cuts it. Not even close. In fact, an Apple watch would be seen as a sign of a lack of success.

"Looking successful implies being successful, ..."

Looking successful implies being successful? When did that happen?


"My wife's surgeon drives a Bentley, parked outside his office."

A surgeon's measure is his dexterity with scalpel and temperament under pressure and in rapidly evolving, changing situations. If all that exists, if he gets patients, then he may one day the able to afford the car. However, having the car does not imply success, at least to me, if I care about the well-being of my loved ones. Not saying this about your particular surgeon, but a trust fund kid could have gotten the Bentley. I would trust presence of experience with that particular surgery, presence of knowledge about that surgery, over presence of a Bentley outside their office.


"He is also exceptionally good at what he does."

That and an exorbitant fee is what (likely) enabled him that purchase. Starting point is being exceptionally good, not ooooh there's a Bentley outside, he's an exceptional surgeon.


A man's measure of success is his work, his standing among peers, not his fame or products on his person or outside his residence and office. By that measure, your plastic surgeon, the other surgeon are peons when compared to Gates or Musk or Buffet. No?

The 60-Year-Old Scientific Screwup That Helped Covid Kill

All pandemic long, scientists brawled over how the virus spreads. Droplets! No, aerosols! At the heart of the fight was a teensy error with huge consequences.

www.wired.com

How rich is this woman who helped undo the wonderful (American) screwup? If she is not having a Bentley outside her office or hosting parties in a multi-million dollar home, nah, she ain't as successful as those people.

Measure of success is your work and its value to humanity (whether in cold business transactions or in saving humanity). The products you purchase with the money you earn - that is just your indulgence in creature comforts of the world. They are not your successes. The successes in the case of your surgeon are lives they saved, not the cars they bought or the parties they threw or the cost of their homes. They are just creature comforts. In the end, all that matters is what you gave to the world, what you did in the world.

 

[GrandeLatte]

I highly doubt they DON’T use their best materials on the watch straps. Hermès is the greatest luxury brand in the world, and there’s no way they would not uphold their standards on any product that bares their name.

I sprung for the Hermès addition this time and I’m so glad I did. I also sprung for two extra bands, because when I saw and experienced the amazing quality of the band the watch came with, I was hooked. These bands are without compare the best made, have the best materials, and are the most comfortable of all bands.

I didn’t buy it for anyone else, I bought it for me. Anyone who sees it just thinks it‘s the regular SS watch. Only one person asked if it was Hermès because they recognized the brand. I love when I look at it and how stunning it is. That’s all that matters to me.

Yes, it is the bands that sold me this year, especially the new double tour. They run small (perfect for my small wrists). And the aesthetics is both classic, yet a bit rock.

I like that my Hermes watch is under the radar. Most if the time I wear mine with sport bands and it looks just like any regular ss watch. Sometimes I wear it with my Hermes bands (double tour in rouge H, and single tour in biscuit). It lights up my day. Don’t really care what others think.

I have to say though buying Hermes bands is highly addictive. I’m already ready for spring release! ?

 

[wilberforce]

"Looking successful implies being successful, ..."

Looking successful implies being successful? When did that happen?


"My wife's surgeon drives a Bentley, parked outside his office."

A surgeon's measure is his dexterity with scalpel and temperament under pressure and in rapidly evolving, changing situations. If all that exists, if he gets patients, then he may one day the able to afford the car. However, having the car does not imply success, at least to me, if I care about the well-being of my loved ones. Not saying this about your particular surgeon, but a trust fund kid could have gotten the Bentley. I would trust presence of experience with that particular surgery, presence of knowledge about that surgery, over presence of a Bentley outside their office.


"He is also exceptionally good at what he does."

That and an exorbitant fee is what (likely) enabled him that purchase. Starting point is being exceptionally good, not ooooh there's a Bentley outside, he's an exceptional surgeon.


A man's measure of success is his work, his standing among peers, not his fame or products on his person or outside his residence and office. By that measure, your plastic surgeon, the other surgeon are peons when compared to Gates or Musk or Buffet. No?

The 60-Year-Old Scientific Screwup That Helped Covid Kill

All pandemic long, scientists brawled over how the virus spreads. Droplets! No, aerosols! At the heart of the fight was a teensy error with huge consequences.

www.wired.com

How rich is this woman who helped undo the wonderful (American) screwup? If she is not having a Bentley outside her office or hosting parties in a multi-million dollar home, nah, she ain't as successful as those people.

Measure of success is your work and its value to humanity (whether in cold business transactions or in saving humanity). The products you purchase with the money you earn - that is just your indulgence in creature comforts of the world. They are not your successes. The successes in the case of your surgeon are lives they saved, not the cars they bought or the parties they threw or the cost of their homes. They are just creature comforts. In the end, all that matters is what you gave to the world, what you did in the world.

I 100% agree with you.
You miss my point.
Sorry for not explaining clearly.
Very briefly, my point is that displays of apparent success can help drive additional business to certain professions.

 

[macintoshmac]

I 100% agree with you.
You miss my point.
Sorry for not explaining clearly.
Very briefly, my point is that displays of apparent success can help drive additional business to certain professions.

Oh yes. Indeed true!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

i hate to break it to you but here in the US, people are judged. I can assure you that these people are successful too. Lol

A world that I am not part of, thankfully. There’s a bit more depth to success over here in Europe I think.

 

[satchmo]

I 100% agree with you.
You miss my point.
Sorry for not explaining clearly.
Very briefly, my point is that displays of apparent success can help drive additional business to certain professions.

It’s an interesting discussion. It’s also true that overt displays of success can drive away business as well.

Look, of course one is free to spend their money on whatever makes them happy.
But I find in many cases, less is more. If I called a lawyer who drove up in a Bentley and dressed from head to toe in designer goods, I’d probably run the other way. To me that feels as if they’re trying too hard, are insecure or have a need for validation. I’d rather they just look professional and understated. Proper business attire wearing a simple Rolex watch is more than enough.

 

[Itinj24]

For the record, everyone, my statement was generalized and not directed specifically to the Apple Watch or Hermes Apple Watch for that matter.

If you’re looking to cut a business deal with a top corporation and you’re pulling up in a beat up car, with a Casio Watch and a suit that looks like it was put together by a child, then hey best of luck. If you don’t look successful then nobody will touch that.

Like it or not, yes you are being judged.