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Someone explain Hermes to me, and what the benefit is of getting it over regular SS AW?
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I agree with your first point completely. As long as we look presentable in business we’re good. I am in a professional career and no one cares about how much my suit or shoes are, or my bags or watches. In fact, I’m client facing and have several meetings a day and we are moving to a more casual dress. Why? Because studies have shown that less than 5% of clients care how we’re dressed.
I’m not quite following your second point. No one is saying people who have these items are better than others. I haven’t seen one person say that. Saying “aluminum won’t cut it for me anymore” isn’t saying I’m better than someone who has aluminum. Now that I know the quality difference I will never go back to aluminum. That’s all.
I have the Hermès watch and have a few designer handbags. But, I don’t spend a lot of money on clothes. I’d rather have the watch and the handbags than expensive clothes. I love every time I look at my wrist and see this beautiful watch. I love how amazing (and I mean AMAZING) the leather band looks and how soft and luxurious it feels. I love how I feel when I wear it, or how I feel when I carry a nice bag.
Your third point is fair enough, but I am sure you value things that others don’t. We all know it’s going ot be outdated and superseded in two years, or maybe a year (depending on the level of the upgrade Watch Series 8 is), not a few months. For someone who says Hermès is not important enough in your life, you’re sure spending a lot of time talking about it. Just saying, and I don’t mean any offense by it, but you clearly have some reason for being here.
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Did you miss my point? Yes, you are allowed your opinion. You said it’s a fitness tracker (a wide sweeping generalization applying to all of us, not just you). I said for me it isn’t a fitness tracker. You generalized, I specified.
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I am one of those professionals you listed and that is hog wash. In fact, the industry is moving to more casual dress because studies have shown that people just don’t care about that stuff anymore. Being clean, presentable, likable and intelligent are what matters.
I’ve gone from wearing suits, ties and dress shoes to untucked buttoned downed shirts, jeans or casual pants, and casual shoes and it hasn’t impacted how many prospects I convert to clients in the least.
This stuff just doesn’t matter anymore, and in fact if a prospect or client sees you carrying an expensive bag, driving a luxury car, or wearing a Rolex can have an adverse effect. Absolutely. One never wants to make a client think you are overcharging them (even though you are not) so you can have luxury items.
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So you’re saying we are being judged then, right? I mean if we’re not, then all that shouldn’t matter, right?
This. Exactly. It’s not like I have a ton of luxury items. I have the Hermès watch and a few designer bags (but those are on the cheap end. I have one that is just at 2k and three that are between $1k and $2k) but if I was sitting in front of a prospect wearing a designer suit, designer shoes and belt, with at $5,000 bag and a Rolex they are going to feel duped. They would. We have done the research. We have also taken the research to heart that shows that people now think if you’re sitting there in a suit and tie you’re too stuffy. The professional world is moving to a more casual setting.
I think I charge less than I should personally, but what I charge is still a lot of money to people and you never want a prospect to feel that they are paying for your luxury lifestyle rather your expertise.
One of the MOST successful men in my profession in the Bay Area wears a polo shirt, jeans and loafers and his firm is one of the biggest in the Bay Area. Why? Because he’s brilliant and that’s the reputation that precedes him. People want to work with him because of that.
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That may be true for like 0.000000000000000000234% of us. Who here is trying to cut a business deal at a top corporation, LOL.
You’re right, we are being judged, but I don‘t care and if someone doesn’t want to work with me because I’m not in a suit or tie anymore, I could care less. I wouldn’t want to work with them anyway. Plenty of people who don’t care about that stuff want to work with me. I don’t need the others.
Agree with this. I wanted a certain car but was forbid (by the family CFO, err wife lol) because it doesn’t carry an image that our family business needs to show our success. Dealings with top banks and needing loans approved… if I came around in that car, it would look like we’re failing.
No. It isn’t. That’s a generalization. We’ve done the research. Most people don’t care about those things. You are wrong.
Once again, go to a business deal with a beat up car, Casio Watch and cheap suit, but be as respectful and respectable as can be… and see if you make that deal.
I honestly just don’t believe anything you’re saying. I don’t believe you have a family business. I’m sorry, I don’t. Everything you say is just so wrong and silly. If you come around to a top bank needing loans approved and you’re driving a sensible car rather than a luxury car, that would tell ANYONE in the financial industry that you are likely sensible and responsible with your money. Coming around in a luxury car, designer clothes, designer bags and shoes and a Rolex could tell them the exact opposite, and make them think you are more of a risk of default.
I have a friend who has a ton of luxury items, but I also know he has a ton of credit card debt. I have another friend who has nothing nice, and a crap ton of money in savings and investments. Who is the bigger risk? Who is more responsible? Who is more successful? Not the one with the luxury items and all the debt.
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Again, no one is saying a beat up car or a Casio watch. EVERYONE is saying presentable, respectful and intelligent. You are the one saying someone is going to judge you in business, and potentially not do business with you, if you have an aluminum watch. Which is, quite frankly, stupid.
What can I say, you got me. I’m just a small fry, typing away from my mom’s basement. You… you’re good you
No one is saying we aren’t being judged and judging every day. Again, no one is saying we aren’t being judged and judging every day. WE are saying no one is going to give a flip and think negatively of one wearing an aluminum watch, not driving a luxury car, not wearing a fancy suit, etc…... You’ve said all those things reflect positively on a person and you are wrong.
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Everyone is judged in life. Some by talent and skill. Some by appearances.
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I just picked Rolex because it suggests a degree of success but not over the top.
Perception does a play a role in business relationships, but I’m suggesting theres a balance and not tobthe extremes suggested in this thread.
No one is going to have any more of a positive perception of you because you have a rolex verses another who wears a casio. No one. No one that matters anyway.
I would imagine very few people on this forum are Patrick Bateman though. It’s a point that is largely irrelevant to most people and thankfully so.
No one is saying we all aren’t being judged. We are saying we are not being judged in the way you say we are being judged. No one is going to be judged negatively because they have an aluminum watch. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not going to get the client to hire me because I have a Hermes watch and my colleague not get the hire because they have an aluminum watch.
Yes, exactly. Only watch connoisseurs or Apple watch fans are going to notice what type of Apple watch you are wearing. I just got my Corona booster shot, and I noticed that the clinician giving me the shot was wearing an Apple Watch, but I didn't look closely enough to see whether it was aluminum, steel, or something else, because I had other things on my mind. He was very patient with me as I fumbled getting my shirt off my shoulder, and he did the shot quick so it didn't hurt. That's the important part of our interaction, not whether he was wearing any watch.
This really makes no sense. Because the extra cost is for the leather band. And you can use the band with future watches.
The Hermes watch band was a thing long before the Apple Watch ever existed.
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If someone thinks that apple watch with a hermes band and watch faces is luxury, then im quite shocked. It is an apple watch, not a luxury watch. None of the luxury watch companies has made it, neither hermes - it has apple watch ”in-house” movement, not hermes
What is the difference between a luxury watch and an apple watch? Apple watch looses it value and functions over the time. Luxury watches work decades and usually gain value.
Apple watch after few years is just an electronic waste.
What is the difference between a luxury watch and an apple watch? Apple watch looses it value and functions over the time. Luxury watches work decades and usually gain value.
Apple watch after few years is just an electronic waste.