Seems like the voice of reason must present himself again.
Sorry, but I did play it. Whether you want to believe so or otherwise.
I'm just one of those people that does not automatically like something because it comes from Japan. I like games that are GOOD.
The games were not liked "automatically because they were from Japan." They were LOVED because they were new, innovative, and different from the rest of the gaming world during the times they were released.
Apparently ICO wasn't aimed at anyone, considering it was a commercial flop.
I'd definitely take Halo or Grand Theft Auto over ICO any way. Why? because they're FUN.
ICO was boring, it honestly didn't look that good (sorry, but modern Japanese artwork/anime is terrible, so much so that even Japanese that are not otaku think so).
ICO and SotC were not mega-sellers because the advertising for them were not huge. They were developed by a small studio. Game critics rejoiced these titles, but in the end, when it comes down to it, unless your playing hundreds of commercials a day, or had a previous installment of the game which was mega-successful, you won't get a blockbuster. Take a marketing class, you might be surprised how much your teenage-angst apathetic crap attitude is so painfully wrong.
As well, neither of the titles sported Anime art or cinemas, so your entire argument there isn't just shot full of holes, it's ****ing dead. Your probably one of the many people without taste who worshipped DragonBall Z, while the many who knew quality anime regarded it as nothing but garbage.
Games are meant to be fun. Not boring.
Fun to some is going to a mall and shoplifting. Fun to others is laying in a hammock and reading a book. It comes down to individuality, which, unfortunately, it appears you have none. You get yours, recycled and remanufactured from 360 fanboy forums.
Here we go with that stupid argument again.
Look, we're not talking about Nintendo systems where you get 1 or 2 good games a year.
On the Playstation and Xbox, game sales directly relate to the quality of the game. If a game is not good people will not buy it. Not very many people bought ICO, so therefore it is not a very good game by default.
YOU might like it, but that doesn't change the fact that nobody else does.
If a game does not sell well then it is not a good game. Simple.
With your argument then, you would be saying a movie such as Fight Club was not a good film because it did a terrible job in theaters. Yet the movie has one of the biggest cult followings since Blade Runner and made more than it's fair share of money back in VHS/DVD sales.
And don't be an ass. "doesn't change the fact that nobody else does." Where do you get this ****? Are your parents not paying enough attention to you? Girls ignoring you in school? TONS of people, including the critics loved those titles. Your argument thus far is totally fail.
Let me know when Gears of War 2 hits the PS3
Let the rest of us know when a game with such beautiful graphics, shoddy gameplay, terrible story line and plot, and redundant gameplay comes to the PS3 as well.
And why will LBP be a "good game"? Has anything Sony made recently turned out good? No? Thats right.
It's an innovative and a new start for games. It relies heavily upon it's community for the creation of it's world, not just developers. Try getting anything like that out of MS. You won't.
I did play them. I don't like Japanese games any more. I used when I was younger, but now they're just annoying, boring, and the artwork drives me nuts because anime looks like a 5 year old drew it.
Oh, and the sales PROVE that the games were bad. People not buying the game = bad game. If you can't accept that fact you shouldn't be playing video games or arguing in this forum.
See a few paragraphs above. Sales mean **** for quality. Just because the Dodge Viper only sells a few amount of cars doesn't mean they aren't of extreme precision and craftsmanship.
Where are Sony's "AAA exclusives"? Thats right, they have none. Gran Turismo will get beaten by Forza 2 and 3. MGS will eventually make it to the Xbox360, seeing as how the sales of the PS3 version are plummeting and they need to recover development costs.
Obviously you don't read. MGS4 took the top selling game for the month of June, and pushed 200,000 more PS3's out store doors than 360's in June.
http://www.411mania.com/games/columns/80967
Also, if Hideo says "No Xbox 360" he means it.
Forza is garbage compared to GT. GT is used as a prototype and testing environment for several real world auto manufacturers. GT is also the most successful driving/racing-sim franchise in the world.
The strength of the Xbox360 comes in a variety of forms. One is that it will have 1,000 games available by the end of the year. The Playstation3 has what? A fraction of that? The Xbox360 already has countless AAA exclusive titles available that the PS3 has nothing to counter with, like Forza, the original Gears of War, Halo 3. The Xbox360 has almost full backwards compatibility with Xbox titles (just look at the list available at xbox.com) versus no backwards compatibility with PS2 titles on the PS3.
Yawn. Halo 3-garbage, over-polished (hey, look at that rock in the cave, it has saran wrap all over it!) and utterly under disappointing multi-player. Gears, just the same. Forza gets owned by GT every generation. Funny, cos every PS and PS2 titles I own has played without a hitch on the PS3. The Xbox 360 most certainly does not have "almost full backwards compatibility." Sorry. Your just wrong.
When you look at the Xbox360 now, you see a vast library of games. The Xbox360 is literally the Playstation/Playstation2 of this generation and the PS3 is the N64/Gamecube of this generation.
When I look at the 360, I see a flawed system (I owned THREE of them, all three failed due to ****** manufacturing and design), and something with very few titles that are even worth a damn. It also has a YEAR on the PS3. What does it not have? Native wireless, ability to install another OS, ability to natively run Folding@Home, native HD movie support, and a high-capacity of backward compatibility for two generations worth of games. Not to mention that there were more games on the PS1 than on the original Xbox, Xbox 360, N64, Gamecube, Wii, and all of Sega's consoles combined. (The total was near 8,000 titles... to be more accurate, 7,987 titles.)
You see high quality titles on the Xbox360 like Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza, PGR, and many others I'm too lazy to type. On the PS3 you see crap like Lair, Heavenly Sword, the snooze fest that is MGS 4 (I'm sorry, but MGS2 and 3 bored me to tears, and MGS4 spends roughly HALF the game watching!?).
Sorry, but MGS4 owns anything the 360 will every put out. Well, that's my opinion, but there isn't another game studio out there that can put the depth that the MGS series has into their games, so I won't worry about it.
The Xbox360 has other strengths too. Such as the ability to play your own music in ANY game, not just a select few. It has the largest on-demand library of HD video. The better online service, streaming Netflix, etc.
Yeah, XBL is better, but it also costs money, and it may not matter to you, but those of us who have rent and car payments, money is money. Why the hell would I want to play my music over most games? It's really quite pointless, and even when I have it wasn't in a game that had any kind of intensity to it. Netflix should never be streamed. Rent, rip, return as they say...
So far, Sony has failed to deliver on nearly every promise they have made. Not just with the PS3, but they never delivered on any of their promises with the PS2 either!
Its amazing people can even trust Sony when they've treated their customers worse than anyone else in the industry.
Examples please.
People always talk bad about Microsoft, but at least when they tell you they will do something they stand by their word and do it.
Yup, they promise they'll give you another shoddy console after your first one, two, or five burn out, but the return cycle time is about 3 weeks. And their tech support makes about 8 bucks an hour, which means you get **** service from people who don't know how to even set up their own home networks. SO AWESOME.
But anyway. The Xbox360 has more games than the PS2 did at this very same point in its life. It has far more than the PS3 does. That is a fact.
Unfortunately for you, the PS2 had about 10,000 titles. Try again in another 9,000 titles or so. Also, moot point, 360 has been out a year longer. Which means far longer time for development and release.
So, all in all your "facts" and hardcore attitude really just come out to be nothing more than crap. Try again when you have a more informed opinion. And BTW, I've been gaming for about 24 years now, so any argument you can try and come up with will more than likely be just as pitiful as the ones you've had in here already, which I've just quite obviously destroyed.
Alright guys, see ya again in 6 months. Don't let this kid think he's something big, cos he's nothin but a mis-informed and ignorant troll.
Shout outs to 2ny, MRU, Ragged, and the rest of the ol' boys.