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Well when I saw E3, I noticed a bit of a trade off between Sony and MS. I have never really cared much for Final Fantasy (I got FFX for the PS2, but just couldn't finish it because the sphere grid was too dang confusing), so the blow didn't really hit me as hard as it did this guy, haha.

(Don't get me wrong FFX was beautiful and addicting, I just couldn't beat it)


I DID in fact notice that BioShock is coming to the PS3, which is great, because it was a MS only game, and now the PS3 has it.

Based on how much I care about both games, I'd say it was a pretty square trade.
 
Bioshock wasn't a 360 exclusive though.

No one told Joe McDonagh that!

However, this is an Xbox 360 exclusive and it's coming out on PC. That's the way it is on Bioshock.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=166516

It was a 360 Exclusive, just as FFXIII was a PS3 exclusive. Now both are multi-platform. In fact they are similar in another way... FF would have been released on PC, just as Bioshock was.

Happy to correct you on that one Jimmi, now go watch more Hoff videos! :p
 
It's been out on Steam for an awfully long time :confused:

Don't PC's count in the exclusivity wars?
 
Ah I see. I always took "exclusivity" to mean "buy our system or you will never play this game rarrarrar". And then there's the iPhone Bioshock :rolleyes:
 
mgs4 and.... thats it. But thats still 1 more than what the 360 has, which is zero now that Mass Effect came out on PC. All the greatest games to come out this generation that I can think of are already multiplatform, with the exception of MGS4.
 
mgs4 and.... thats it. But thats still 1 more than what the 360 has

in your opinion. ;)

I have a lot of games that are only on the 360 which I consider to be AAA quality, and tbh a lot of us console owners simply don't give sh*t about what games come out on PC, as we prefer to game on a console for a number of reasons, including the fact it generally costs a lot less to buy a console than a decent graphics card on pc, which probably need updating again one year down the line in order to play a game baring any resemblance to the screen shots. At least with a console your set for a number of years without having that hassle. :)
 
in your opinion. ;)

I have a lot of games that are only on the 360 which I consider to be AAA quality, and tbh a lot of us console owners simply don't give sh*t about what games come out on PC, as we prefer to game on a console for a number of reasons, including the fact it generally costs a lot less to buy a console than a decent graphics card on pc, which probably need updating again one year down the line in order to play a game baring any resemblance to the screen shots. At least with a console your set for a number of years without having that hassle. :)

currently graphics card are so cheap it's not even funny any more .. last years 8800 GT for 89 euro ? no offense but that's only 20 euro more than the price of a single new game for a HD console


ignoring the fact that PC games are cheaper from the beginning and drop to lower budget prices in a shorter amount of time
 
Actually I think the only exclusive that 360 has going for it is Halo 3, which is either gonna show up on PC (dought it) or disappear. I will admit that Halo 3 wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
 
The 8800GT is easily capable of console quality graphics. If all you care about is having PC games look as good as they do on a 360 at 720p then an 8800gt is fine for as long as the 360 is around. The new high end cards are capable of exceeding a 360 by a huge margin, you dont have to upgrade all the time unless you care about having the highest quality settings in all the new games that come out (which look better than console games already, like Crysis)
 
Seems like the voice of reason must present himself again.

Sorry, but I did play it. Whether you want to believe so or otherwise.

I'm just one of those people that does not automatically like something because it comes from Japan. I like games that are GOOD.

The games were not liked "automatically because they were from Japan." They were LOVED because they were new, innovative, and different from the rest of the gaming world during the times they were released.

Apparently ICO wasn't aimed at anyone, considering it was a commercial flop.

I'd definitely take Halo or Grand Theft Auto over ICO any way. Why? because they're FUN.

ICO was boring, it honestly didn't look that good (sorry, but modern Japanese artwork/anime is terrible, so much so that even Japanese that are not otaku think so).

ICO and SotC were not mega-sellers because the advertising for them were not huge. They were developed by a small studio. Game critics rejoiced these titles, but in the end, when it comes down to it, unless your playing hundreds of commercials a day, or had a previous installment of the game which was mega-successful, you won't get a blockbuster. Take a marketing class, you might be surprised how much your teenage-angst apathetic crap attitude is so painfully wrong.

As well, neither of the titles sported Anime art or cinemas, so your entire argument there isn't just shot full of holes, it's ****ing dead. Your probably one of the many people without taste who worshipped DragonBall Z, while the many who knew quality anime regarded it as nothing but garbage.

Games are meant to be fun. Not boring.

Fun to some is going to a mall and shoplifting. Fun to others is laying in a hammock and reading a book. It comes down to individuality, which, unfortunately, it appears you have none. You get yours, recycled and remanufactured from 360 fanboy forums.



Here we go with that stupid argument again.

Look, we're not talking about Nintendo systems where you get 1 or 2 good games a year.

On the Playstation and Xbox, game sales directly relate to the quality of the game. If a game is not good people will not buy it. Not very many people bought ICO, so therefore it is not a very good game by default.

YOU might like it, but that doesn't change the fact that nobody else does.

If a game does not sell well then it is not a good game. Simple.

With your argument then, you would be saying a movie such as Fight Club was not a good film because it did a terrible job in theaters. Yet the movie has one of the biggest cult followings since Blade Runner and made more than it's fair share of money back in VHS/DVD sales.

And don't be an ass. "doesn't change the fact that nobody else does." Where do you get this ****? Are your parents not paying enough attention to you? Girls ignoring you in school? TONS of people, including the critics loved those titles. Your argument thus far is totally fail.

Let me know when Gears of War 2 hits the PS3 ;)
Let the rest of us know when a game with such beautiful graphics, shoddy gameplay, terrible story line and plot, and redundant gameplay comes to the PS3 as well.

And why will LBP be a "good game"? Has anything Sony made recently turned out good? No? Thats right.

It's an innovative and a new start for games. It relies heavily upon it's community for the creation of it's world, not just developers. Try getting anything like that out of MS. You won't.


I did play them. I don't like Japanese games any more. I used when I was younger, but now they're just annoying, boring, and the artwork drives me nuts because anime looks like a 5 year old drew it.

Oh, and the sales PROVE that the games were bad. People not buying the game = bad game. If you can't accept that fact you shouldn't be playing video games or arguing in this forum.

See a few paragraphs above. Sales mean **** for quality. Just because the Dodge Viper only sells a few amount of cars doesn't mean they aren't of extreme precision and craftsmanship.

Where are Sony's "AAA exclusives"? Thats right, they have none. Gran Turismo will get beaten by Forza 2 and 3. MGS will eventually make it to the Xbox360, seeing as how the sales of the PS3 version are plummeting and they need to recover development costs.

Obviously you don't read. MGS4 took the top selling game for the month of June, and pushed 200,000 more PS3's out store doors than 360's in June. http://www.411mania.com/games/columns/80967
Also, if Hideo says "No Xbox 360" he means it.

Forza is garbage compared to GT. GT is used as a prototype and testing environment for several real world auto manufacturers. GT is also the most successful driving/racing-sim franchise in the world.

The strength of the Xbox360 comes in a variety of forms. One is that it will have 1,000 games available by the end of the year. The Playstation3 has what? A fraction of that? The Xbox360 already has countless AAA exclusive titles available that the PS3 has nothing to counter with, like Forza, the original Gears of War, Halo 3. The Xbox360 has almost full backwards compatibility with Xbox titles (just look at the list available at xbox.com) versus no backwards compatibility with PS2 titles on the PS3.

Yawn. Halo 3-garbage, over-polished (hey, look at that rock in the cave, it has saran wrap all over it!) and utterly under disappointing multi-player. Gears, just the same. Forza gets owned by GT every generation. Funny, cos every PS and PS2 titles I own has played without a hitch on the PS3. The Xbox 360 most certainly does not have "almost full backwards compatibility." Sorry. Your just wrong.

When you look at the Xbox360 now, you see a vast library of games. The Xbox360 is literally the Playstation/Playstation2 of this generation and the PS3 is the N64/Gamecube of this generation.

When I look at the 360, I see a flawed system (I owned THREE of them, all three failed due to ****** manufacturing and design), and something with very few titles that are even worth a damn. It also has a YEAR on the PS3. What does it not have? Native wireless, ability to install another OS, ability to natively run Folding@Home, native HD movie support, and a high-capacity of backward compatibility for two generations worth of games. Not to mention that there were more games on the PS1 than on the original Xbox, Xbox 360, N64, Gamecube, Wii, and all of Sega's consoles combined. (The total was near 8,000 titles... to be more accurate, 7,987 titles.)

You see high quality titles on the Xbox360 like Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza, PGR, and many others I'm too lazy to type. On the PS3 you see crap like Lair, Heavenly Sword, the snooze fest that is MGS 4 (I'm sorry, but MGS2 and 3 bored me to tears, and MGS4 spends roughly HALF the game watching!?).
Sorry, but MGS4 owns anything the 360 will every put out. Well, that's my opinion, but there isn't another game studio out there that can put the depth that the MGS series has into their games, so I won't worry about it.

The Xbox360 has other strengths too. Such as the ability to play your own music in ANY game, not just a select few. It has the largest on-demand library of HD video. The better online service, streaming Netflix, etc.
Yeah, XBL is better, but it also costs money, and it may not matter to you, but those of us who have rent and car payments, money is money. Why the hell would I want to play my music over most games? It's really quite pointless, and even when I have it wasn't in a game that had any kind of intensity to it. Netflix should never be streamed. Rent, rip, return as they say...

So far, Sony has failed to deliver on nearly every promise they have made. Not just with the PS3, but they never delivered on any of their promises with the PS2 either!

Its amazing people can even trust Sony when they've treated their customers worse than anyone else in the industry.
Examples please.

People always talk bad about Microsoft, but at least when they tell you they will do something they stand by their word and do it.
Yup, they promise they'll give you another shoddy console after your first one, two, or five burn out, but the return cycle time is about 3 weeks. And their tech support makes about 8 bucks an hour, which means you get **** service from people who don't know how to even set up their own home networks. SO AWESOME. :rolleyes:

But anyway. The Xbox360 has more games than the PS2 did at this very same point in its life. It has far more than the PS3 does. That is a fact.

Unfortunately for you, the PS2 had about 10,000 titles. Try again in another 9,000 titles or so. Also, moot point, 360 has been out a year longer. Which means far longer time for development and release.

So, all in all your "facts" and hardcore attitude really just come out to be nothing more than crap. Try again when you have a more informed opinion. And BTW, I've been gaming for about 24 years now, so any argument you can try and come up with will more than likely be just as pitiful as the ones you've had in here already, which I've just quite obviously destroyed.

Alright guys, see ya again in 6 months. Don't let this kid think he's something big, cos he's nothin but a mis-informed and ignorant troll.

Shout outs to 2ny, MRU, Ragged, and the rest of the ol' boys.
 
EXACTLY!! LAST YEARS 8800GT ;)

And at €89 you seem to be able to get them much cheaper than me here

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=349120
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=345990
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=345990

For example...

http://www.alternate.at/html/productDetails.html?artno=JBXXLD

and the ati 3850 is currently priced at 75 euroes

http://www.alternate.at/html/productDetails.html?artno=JBXUM4

christ why are graphics cards so expensive in ireland compared to here ? and austria isn't even as cheap as germany
the normal price for the gt8800 is around 110-125 euro but at that i would rather get the ati 4850 for 135-145 euro

edit2: and it's this year gt8800 within the mac world ;)
 
TO ONIZUKA: holy giant-post-i-can-barely-skim-through, batman! but seriously, good post. you said everything that I would never had taken the time to type lol. :D

i am a bum
 
I can't believe I missed this thread.

On the original topic, I fear for the fact that supporting 2 platform will bring down the technical aspect of the game. They can't really go all out and milk the juice out of each console and expect the same to come out for the other. This is just bad news for FFXIII. I am really waiting eagerly for FFXIII but this is sort of a letdown for me.
 
I can't believe I missed this thread.

On the original topic, I fear for the fact that supporting 2 platform will bring down the technical aspect of the game. They can't really go all out and milk the juice out of each console and expect the same to come out for the other. This is just bad news for FFXIII. I am really waiting eagerly for FFXIII but this is sort of a letdown for me.

not to mention PS3 owners will have to wait until Squeenix gets around to porting the 360 version which ain't gonna happen until AFTER it releases in Japan.... ugh... *sigh* no world wide launch? come on...
 
^ Actually none of us know how far in development the 360 version actually is. It might not be that far behind its brethren.
 
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