Sony Takes on iPhone's Growing Mobile Gaming Popularity in New Ad

[ant72]

I've owned a great many hand-held consoles; literally dozens. The iphone is for me the most fun gaming experiences I've had in a long time.

As a PSP owner, I can tell you that Sony's machine (however lovely) is dead on it's arse. Iphone has made mobile gaming fun. Imagine that, fun!

I know... crazy.

 

[0098386]

What makes something casual or hardcore is a matter of "SOFTWARE" not hardware. There is a Metal Gear Solid game for the iPhone BTW.

Lol yes. I have it on my iPod touch. The only similarities to the MG series is in name only. It's a "tap here" on-rail shooter with less depth than any other MG game. Even the 1980's MSX originals have more content and more story!
Peacewalker (to 100%) is an 80 hour game. It's even longer than MGS4, yet doesn't have lots of cutscenes. To compare the iPod version to that is incredible.

Anyway, I don't have the time to be a hardcore gamer and even if I did, I would not want to be one because I view hard core gamers as losers at "real life". Games are way to fill in the time.

Nope. Games can be a distraction, games can be sport, games can be just fun, games can be a form of socialising.

Never say never. There are things you can do with touch devices that you can't do with traditional portable gaming devices. How about drawing your passing routes with your finger, or tapping your receiver of choice in Madden 2011?

And vice versa. There's no way a Monster Hunter game could ever make it to iOS. Never. Heck its barely manageable on the PSP! You'd also never get games that require instant, 1ms control with motion and gesture based controls.

Both systems have their genres that make full use of their controls. And then there's the DS with both buttons and a touchscreen - a win win.

That's more of a testament to how crappy the PSP's library is than anything else

That was relevant in 2004/2005. Get a new rhetoric.

I've owned a great many hand-held consoles; literally dozens. The iphone is for me the most fun gaming experiences I've had in a long time.

As a PSP owner, I can tell you that Sony's machine (however lovely) is dead on it's arse. Iphone has made mobile gaming fun. Imagine that, fun!

I know... crazy.

PSP games are fun. I've sunk 50 hours into Peacewalker so far, 80 hours into MHFU, 30 hours each into Popolocrois, LocoRoco 1+2, FFVII, Gran Turismo...
As a game player I'm only interested in gameplay (that's why I play GB games from time to time). If them games aren't fun why would I put so much time into them?

Also dayyumm. I thought this thread was dead. Funny to see the Think Different crowd in full swing.

 

[Žalgiris]

In my opinion, all those games qualify as hardcore gaming. How many hours did a typical Diablo 2 fan spend on the computer?

Don't know. I personally play only single player mode, never played on battle.net. I made it through Diablo II in 8 hours.

 

[Žalgiris]

PSP games are fun. I've sunk 50 hours into Peacewalker so far, 80 hours into MHFU, 30 hours each into Popolocrois, LocoRoco 1+2, FFVII, Gran Turismo...
As a game player I'm only interested in gameplay (that's why I play GB games from time to time). If them games aren't fun why would I put so much time into them?

Also dayyumm. I thought this thread was dead. Funny to see the Think Different crowd in full swing.

Happy to know how much time you have wasted.

 

[pondosinatra]

The difference, though:

Jesus. How fat is America?

 

[pondosinatra]

Oh yes, tattoos show such sophistication!

Hmmm the cutter chick is kinda cute. Anyone have her #?

 

[notabadname]

Kind of funny that it brags about games for only $9.99, when the vast majority of good games on the iPhone are half that, and of course many even free. Not to mention, my game will pause automatically if my "Grandma" chooses to text or call me.

I will take my all-in-one device, any day. Even better, I pay for one copy of the game and I can put it on 5 different devices so we can all play. Sorry Sony, you missed the opportunity with the "Walkman" and digital music, and you are a little dated in the world of hand-held gaming.

 

[LagunaSol]

Even better, I pay for one copy of the game and I can put it on 5 different devices so we can all play.

And there's one of the huge advantages of this mobile platform: buy once, the whole family enjoys - on their own devices.

 

[diamond.g]

And there's one of the huge advantages of this mobile platform: buy once, the whole family enjoys - on their own devices.

Is it limited to 5 devices? I would think that developers would rather people pay for each copy of the game. Especially when you get games like FF7-FF13...

 

[madmax_2069]

So another ridiculously small niche.

I really think that what I refer to as casual gaming is the future of gaming, market wise.

Its much bigger then you think

But you have to be fair and compare both ways.
There are WAY more games I'd rather play on a touch that can't begin to be ported to any Sony hardware.

The sad thing is that many games that are on the iPhone/iPod touch have been ported over from other systems, granted some are original but not all. And a few iPhone games get ported over to the PSP or other hand held system.

you are saying cant be ported over to any SONY system, i think you do not know what you said. you mean to tell me that the PS3 cant run anything the iPhone can, oh please. but i imagine you was mainly pointing towards the PSP more so then the PS3 (or even a computer).

As an owner of an iPhone 4, iPad, PSP Slim and PS3... Sony is losing. I would prefer to play on my iPhone over the PSP any day, except for car racing games which absolutely suck on the iPhone!!!

Sony, the iPhone beats you because:
1) Games are cheaper (generally)
2) Higher resolution than your Minis!
3) There is usually a free trial or lite version to test out first
4) Installation of games is faster and easier
5) iPhone touch screen is better for some games (ie. Fieldrunners)
6) I can do other stuff on my phone - the phone is the killer app which means that I always carry it with me! (not to mention the good web browser, iPod, email etc)

I wish someone would bring out a keypad accessory for the iPhone (so I can have real buttons when this improves game play)

Good luck Sony.

lets see here.

1. Granted some are but not all, some minis on PSN are around $4 (that's pocket change)
2. I give you that, even more so with the iPhone 4
3. Ever hear of a demo ?
4. same can be said about the PSP, just download and play. (just need to be around a wifi network with internet access )
5. Granted some games are better for touchscreen, but the same can be said about physical buttons.
6. The Phone is the only killer App because the iPhone is PHONE, but lets not forget that you can use a VOIP client to make calls as well on the PSP as well as the iPod touch (but you need to be around wifi for either to work). (Skype on the PSP has this feature already).

 

[0098386]

I will take my all-in-one device, any day. Even better, I pay for one copy of the game and I can put it on 5 different devices so we can all play. Sorry Sony, you missed the opportunity with the "Walkman" and digital music, and you are a little dated in the world of hand-held gaming.

You can do the same on the PSP. Buy anything off the PSN store and you can access it on up to 5 devices. Me and my girlfriend do this with our individual PSPs and PS3.
Dated? Why are there no games on the App store that look as good as Gran Turismo, MHF Unite or MGS: PeaceWalker. hmm? Why aren't there fully fleshed out RPGs like the PSP (and DS) have had since 2004-2005? The tech of an iPhone is very good - this is not reflected in the quality of software.

The amount of fanboyness and FUD in this thread is outstanding.

 

[madmax_2069]

The amount of fanboyness and FUD in this thread is outstanding.

Yeah, when these Apple vs (device here) topics fanboys crawl out of the woodwork (from both sides).

I try to be level headed in these topics but i get made out as a fanboy more so then being level headed.

Most fanboys state opinion as facts (it might be fact to them but its still a opinion towards everyone else). very few actually state fact as fact, those i can agree with.

You can do the same on the PSP. Buy anything off the PSN store and you can access it on up to 5 devices. Me and my girlfriend do this with our individual PSPs and PS3.

Don't forget about the ad-hoc game sharing

 

[Žalgiris]

The amount of fanboyness and FUD in this thread is outstanding.

And sizeable amount comes from guess who? oh yes YOU!

 

[0098386]

And sizeable amount comes from guess who? oh yes YOU!

Where? Quote my FUD and prove why I was wrong.
This should be fun. I'm a bit disheartened that you want to keep trolling this thread after I tried to move it to private messages instead.

 

[Liquorpuki]

I've owned a great many hand-held consoles; literally dozens. The iphone is for me the most fun gaming experiences I've had in a long time.

As a PSP owner, I can tell you that Sony's machine (however lovely) is dead on it's arse. Iphone has made mobile gaming fun. Imagine that, fun!

I know... crazy.

Wondering what games exactly are you playing that are so fun.

iphone games are:
- the same physics game with a different skin
- the same dash game with a different skin
- the same line drawing game with a different skin
- the same tower defense game with a different skin
- Bejeweled with a different skin
- a crappy port of a console game which reduces 8 buttons to 2
- something by Gameloft, which looks better than anything above, but is mediocre compared to any flagship game that ever existed on the PSP or DS

 

[Savor]

Sony and Nintendo just need get their PSP and DS/GameBoy platform in the cell phone market already!

The latest Final Fantasy and Tekken would kick ass on a PSP phone. Nintendo is wasting their time trying to sell "3D" when it should consider adding a phone capability.

Understand Apple fanboys, the PSP was Sony's first handheld gaming system. How are we to judge their portable gaming expertise with ONE device? The PSP Go is not a true successor but a variation/experiment of it sans UMD. The Xbox 360 fared better than the OG Xbox, did it? It was being sold at a higher price point (the market is price-sensitive) and against a company who is the king of portable gaming. Nintendo basically sold 100M with a device that had touchscreen and Nintendo 64 hardware for 5-6 years! Rehashing Mario and Zelda to games to us over and over. The DS also originally had GBA backward compatibility too, something PSP did not have. Yet, PSP still sold more than a GameCube and Xbox combined and still alive after more than five years that something the GCN and Xbox did not do. If memory is a concern, Nintendo and Sony can still distribute games in high capacity disks and sell it at retail stores.

As both a casual and hardcore gamer, I would love to see a portable video gaming get completely married to a cell phone the way Apple married an iPod and phone.

Instead of targeting mainly casual gamers with 99 cent puzzle games, half-assed Korean RPGs, and tilt-controlled racing games, I want to see legit franchises into the cell phone and have it done at a much grander scale. Sony and Nintendo should try to beat Apple at something Apple is NOT good at. Apple can OWN making fancy UIs. Nintendo can stick to their forte and craft and kick Apple's ass on how to do great gaming. I would rather go to Miyamoto than Jobs or Ives if I wanted to make a game. Making great games and having legit 3rd party support from Namco, Square Enix, and Sega to back you up every step of the way, that will work for Sony and Nintendo. Hardcore gaming is still untapped in the cell phone market.

Think about it. The most popular games in the App Store would be mini-games in the PlayStation store. Generic crap for 99 cents. The games can be addicting, cheap, and easily distributed, but not inspiring. One of the most anticipated games coming to the App Store is Final Fantasy Tactics, a port from the PSP which was a remake of the original 1997 PS1 game. That game wasn't even the best game on PSP! But its controls and pace is PERFECT for iPhone. But I want mobile gaming to reach ALL demographics and many different gaming genres, not just casual gamers.

Get me a remake of Final Fantasy VII or give me a legit Mario Kart or NBA Jam game without needing a ROM or cheap imitation of it, and I'm sold! Video games and cell phones finally married together in a big way just like the iPod and phone did.

The PlayStation brand and Nintendo franchises is just TOO strong NOT to have its own cell phone dedicated to them.

 

[0098386]

Get me a remake of Final Fantasy VII or give me a legit Mario Kart or NBA Jam game without needing a ROM or cheap imitation of it, and I'm sold! Video games and cell phones finally married together in a big way just like the iPod and phone did.

The PlayStation brand and Nintendo franchises is just TOO strong NOT to have its own cell phone dedicated to them.

I'd argue otherwise.
The problem is people like many of these devices. Gamers like me want games from Sony and their exclusive studios, and games from Nintendo and their exclusive studios. If both Nintendo and Sony decide to make their next generation handhelds phone only then why would anyone buy more than 1? It just means people won't own multiple devices, and since Nintendo sells the most - the other manufacturers wouldn't get a look in.

Surely you can see the problem with that.

Now if they make a regular version and a phone version... that would work. Phones have their own host of problems, subscriptions, compatibility issues (they'd have to release an update every year like the iPhone, therefore alienating early adopters. Look at both the DS, the best selling game device ever and it's 6 years old. All brand new DS games will run on the first sold DS consoles).

What I think is the future is a system like the iPad with optional mobile data, messaging and Skype. But not the phone route. Not for a dedicated games console.

 

[Liquorpuki]

Nintendo is wasting their time trying to sell "3D" when it should consider adding a phone capability.

I think Nintendo made a good move by going 3D. If it added phone capabilities, it would've just drawn direct iphone comparisons that would've highlighted everything the iphone is better at (touchscreen, form factor, app store volume, non-gaming apps, etc), overshadowing the only thing the DS is better at (games).

But given the 3D works well, and from early previews it does, Nintendo has now just created a new market for themselves. Anyone who wants to game in 3D for the first time has no choice but to buy a 3DS, just like anyone who wanted to swing a controller and have an avatar respond had to buy a wii.

 

[kernkraft]

ijustine, ifindyou irritating

Hmmm the cutter chick is kinda cute. Anyone have her #?

It's ijustine. You'll find her on YouTube, you'll find her on Apple launches; she's a self-appointed Apple ambassador. She's the kind who hovers around cameras every time she sees one (check out Brian Tong's videos on Cnet). By the way, her tattoo is fake. Have a look at the tone of real tattoos. It's a calculated move to have her profile raised.

I remember her video when she got around three or four iPhones. I wanted to slap her really badly and I'm not violent. It wasn't that I wanted so many iPhones (I've had one already), but just the way that she acted showed narcism at an unparalleled level without having any point.

Anyway, one day you'll see her in a regional news programme where she will act like she's the lost daughter of Steve Jobs or the biggest insider ever.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Happy to know how much time you have wasted.

Are you talking about video games or arguing on forums?

 

[Žalgiris]

I'm a bit disheartened that you want to keep trolling this thread after I tried to move it to private messages instead.

Yeah about that... Next time it gets posted right here.

 

[0098386]

Yeah about that... Next time it gets posted right here.

How mature.
Besides that PM was a copy of a reply for this thread until I thought "you know, theres only 1 real troll spreading FUD lets take it away from the public eye".

I'll post it here;

1. Why do you think I wasted time playing better games?
1.5 Why does me playing high quality games on an older, non-Apple device offend you?
2. Are you a fanboy who cannot be involved in discussion? Already answered by the looks of it.

I'm still waiting on you to quote my FUD, respond with some figures and facts maybe?

 

[OGDaniel]

What moron is in charge of advertising over there? They should just do their own thing and let it be. There's no competing with the App Store ultimately.

 

[Minimoose 360]

I hate Marcus.

 

[TorontoLRT]

That kid is an obnoxious brat.