geeez, remind me never to use a magi mouse for gestures. That guy has to gesture 15 times to get anything to work right. Horrible.
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Spaces in Lion
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geeez, remind me never to use a magi mouse for gestures. That guy has to gesture 15 times to get anything to work right. Horrible.
Where are the spaces at the top of the screen?
I have a few spaces defined from my previous 10.6 install, and can use the trackpad gesture to move between them - so far so good. But when I go into Mission Control, I don't see the spaces at the top of the screen, nor do I see the clustered apps by space that I see in the video.
Any ideas why that is?
I have a few spaces defined from my previous 10.6 install, and can use the trackpad gesture to move between them - so far so good. But when I go into Mission Control, I don't see the spaces at the top of the screen, nor do I see the clustered apps by space that I see in the video.
Any ideas why that is?
I can't believe this, Spaces was the #1 feature that made me more productive in 10.6. I hate the new system. It's all great to use for my mother with being able to go anywhere with gestures and clicks, but for a developer mainly using the keyboard it's a damn nightmare.
The only thing I have found to be effective is to change my habit and start using CTRL+# to switch between spaces instead of using the arrow keys like before. Not perfect, but well, no other choice. I also hate that full-screen apps create a new space, I totally defeats the purpose.
Anyway, one thing that really freaks me out right now is the damn spaces animation! Does anyone know how to turn this off?? "defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-swoosh-animation-off -bool YES && killall Dock" from 10.6 doesn't seem to work for me.
The only thing I have found to be effective is to change my habit and start using CTRL+# to switch between spaces instead of using the arrow keys like before. Not perfect, but well, no other choice. I also hate that full-screen apps create a new space, I totally defeats the purpose.
Anyway, one thing that really freaks me out right now is the damn spaces animation! Does anyone know how to turn this off?? "defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-swoosh-animation-off -bool YES && killall Dock" from 10.6 doesn't seem to work for me.
You say there's no other choice but there TOTALLY is. DO NOT upgrade (or downgrade) to Lion. It is my intention to use Snow Leopard for as long as I can, until I'm forced to switch because one or more of my main applications that I use gets a major overhaul and the minimum requirement is Lion. Till that time, I'm sticking to Snow Leopard.
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I agree. The loss of the grid functionality is why I'm planning to stay with Snow Leopard. To me spaces and expose have both been downgraded in Lion.
CTRL 1 and CTRL 2 should do that. Check out your Mission Control Keyboard Shortcuts settings in Keyboard part of System Preferences.
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I don't have spaces activated for me in Lion GM. (All references to Desktop 2, etc. are missing from keyboard shortcuts). How do I enable them?
Edit: Ignore me. I figured it out.
To those similarly confused, Spaces are now created from the Mission Control screen (Click on the giant plus in the top right of the screen!)
Edit: Ignore me. I figured it out.
To those similarly confused, Spaces are now created from the Mission Control screen (Click on the giant plus in the top right of the screen!)
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I will definitely not downgrade to lion!!! I'll stick with Snow Leopard and I hope that many others will do the same thing! Spaces & Expose are great and mission control could be a nice addition to them, but not an alternative! I also don't understand why they stopped offering some utilities like isync and frontrow! Unless they offer better replacements.
Yep, I'll not be upgrading to 10.7 for long while, I'll probably dual boot the two for a few months and wait for a third party to release something like Spaces for Lion.
It's a real shame Apple got rid of Spaces, if they just made some tweeks ti fix the biggest issues I would of been the happiest person... now im just pissed
It's a real shame Apple got rid of Spaces, if they just made some tweeks ti fix the biggest issues I would of been the happiest person... now im just pissed
I think that we should not buy lion and at the same time we should complaint specially at their forums. We should give them the hint, that mac isn't iphone!!! If they want to integrate some of the iOS's advantages to mac, so be it, but they shouldn't kill anything good in the previous Mac OS X releases. Specially not spaces and expose!!! I can't imagine that even a single user did a complaint against spaces and expose. And for God's shake, even if someone don't like them, he can deactivate them very easily!!!! Jeeeezzzz!!!!
I think that we should not buy lion and at the same time we should complaint specially at their forums. We should give them the hint, that mac isn't iphone!!! If they want to integrate some of the iOS's advantages to mac, so be it, but they shouldn't kill anything good in the previous Mac OS X releases. Specially not spaces and expose!!! I can't imagine that even a single user did a complaint against spaces and expose. And for God's shake, even if someone don't like them, he can deactivate them very easily!!!! Jeeeezzzz!!!!
I'm with you I'm not planning to update to Lion any time soon.
1. The downgrading of expose and spaces. I currently use 9 spaces to separate what I'm currently doing, and having them arranged in a grid helps me move quickly from one space to another. Also, when I use expose, I want to see the entire window not only parts of them while the rest are hidden behind other windows.
2. Resume seems it could be problematic. When I open a program I what to be taken to a neutral spot, not where I was before. Also when closing, I want the program to ask me about saving so that I know that the saved file is what I want it to be.
It's sad really. When DP1 came out, I really was (foolishly) optimistic that it was just a rough first version... and that they would polish the new spaces so that it would be at least as powerful as 10.6 and 10.5. I thought, sure, they obviously want to so something new, but there's no way they would go backwards.
Then every subsequent DP was a little more disheartening. And now here we are... the GM seed and this is what they've settled on. Sad.
Then every subsequent DP was a little more disheartening. And now here we are... the GM seed and this is what they've settled on. Sad.
If someone would write a commercial virtual window manager similar to this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
R.I.P. Spaces, seems we hardly knew ye, but loved ye all the same.
there's a whole lot of things that are not ok with mission control, one being that even with a 15" screen if you have 3-4 similar finder windows in one desktop (which you're forced to since there is no easy desktop switching option, has anybody noticed that animation+redraw takes almost one second? having six desktops and having to go 1-to-5 with the keyboard takes time, and so does with the mouse, therefore having more than 3-4 desktops is inefficient) when you spawn mission control it's hard to tell which one is the actual window you want to open because they're too tiny to read the title bar and since you can't see the content (they're in a pile) you can't tell one from the other.
then obviously you can't move a window from a desktop which is not the one you're looking at to another one, which is pretty stupid. also the fact that exposé's replacement takes up a small part of the screen is kind of irrational. i think that the only reason anybody might like mission control is that it reminds of the inefficiency of using a touchscreen (there's a reason why keyboards and mice are still employed, imagine using final cut with your fingers, or even programming with a touchscreen), so "it's like using an ipad", but you're not using an ipad, you're using a pc on a wheelchair.
TL;DR, for who requested "a commercial application which reverts to the old behaviour", i'd like to remind that before leopard there was no spaces and there were third party apps for the virtual desktops. i used to have this one, and it did the trick (oh, and it was free).
then obviously you can't move a window from a desktop which is not the one you're looking at to another one, which is pretty stupid. also the fact that exposé's replacement takes up a small part of the screen is kind of irrational. i think that the only reason anybody might like mission control is that it reminds of the inefficiency of using a touchscreen (there's a reason why keyboards and mice are still employed, imagine using final cut with your fingers, or even programming with a touchscreen), so "it's like using an ipad", but you're not using an ipad, you're using a pc on a wheelchair.
TL;DR, for who requested "a commercial application which reverts to the old behaviour", i'd like to remind that before leopard there was no spaces and there were third party apps for the virtual desktops. i used to have this one, and it did the trick (oh, and it was free).
Let's hope that we will have programs like this for Lion! This is our only hope for now! Do you know if this program could work with Lion? Is it still downloadable for Mac?
Ok, so it's not only "let's bring the limited tablet interface to the desktop", it's now "let's turn desktop computers into laptops".
it doesn't because there have been big changes in the infrastructure. there might be similar ones at some point (i hope).
Well, there was Hyperspaces but they have now stopped active development due to incompatibilities with Lion.
Add this too... He will be missed.
For those who don't understand, here's what happened:
Compared to Leopard, with the same windows (I have my Dock swapped to the pre-Snow Leopard one)
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