More often it is either blocking or not blocking an app based on where a person is at. Now it is having different versions of the same appsThey always needed to comply with different rules for each country's App Store.
More often it is either blocking or not blocking an app based on where a person is at. Now it is having different versions of the same appsThey always needed to comply with different rules for each country's App Store.
If you're consistently undermining the law like Apple did with the DMA (see how many times Apple had to backpedal on their anti-competitive "implementations") and with other laws in the past (just look at how Apple ignored the Netherlands' laws and had to pay Tinder monthly fines for continuing to deny them their rights), don't act surprised when you end up being called a gatekeeper and people looking where the dirt under your fingernails comes from.Why would they do more than the absolute minimum to comply with rules. Do you pay more taxes than you owe or do you pay the minimum amount that you are legally required to do so?
They can charge fees if they want. I don't think though, that they can selectively charge apps published outside of the App Store. The Commission will likely demand from Apple to charge the same fee to App Store apps. That would off course be problematic for Apple, because it would mean that the "shelves" of the Apple App Store would empty quite quickly.For those saying this is malicious compliance, please show me where in the DMA it says Apple can't charge for access to its platform. (Hint: it isn't in there)
Spotify is able to release it on other App stores now for the EUHow about they just release the .ipa on their own web site, without waiting for Apple's permission?
Oh yeah, that's because Apple is illegally preventing it from working if they do that. Seems to me talking to the government that's going to fine Apple for their bad behavior is the right thing to do here.
They don't have to, and that's the point. Spotify is entitled to its rights, that includes rights in the App Store as well.Spotify is able to release it on other App stores now for the EU
It's Apple, an update from Spotify is most likely their nr 1 priority, as soon as they got it they most likely took out their magnifying glasses.Spotify is sounding like a whiner. It’s only 9 days.
Apple's lawyer team is probably working overtime to find a reason to block this update ...It's Apple, an update from Spotify is most likely their nr 1 priority, as soon as they got it they most likely took out their magnifying glasses.
No, this is done intentionally, if there was something wrong with the update they could have notify Spotify by now.
Maybe Apple should also make their own country where they can sell their stuff. How about that?Time for all these pointless music services to just do their own thing. Make a phone that people want or just sell records through a catalog stamp system. If you want to be on a phone, just make it. Or just make it work in a browser.
I’ll never give a dime to Spotify, although I hear they control the European market. Time for Apple to start attacking.
"Can we legally delay the update for as long as we want?" - "Paralegal, go and find out!"Apple's lawyer team is probably working overtime to find a reason to block this update ...
Exactly!Time for all these pointless music services to just do their own thing. Make a phone that people want or just sell records through a catalog stamp system. If you want to be on a phone, just make it. Or just make it work in a browser.
I’ll never give a dime to Spotify, although I hear they control the European market. Time for Apple to start attacking.
The app's developer can expect for Apple to follow laws.Exactly!
The app cannot dictate how the platform works, this is crazy!!
They can charge fees if they want. I don't think though, that they can selectively charge apps published outside of the App Store. The Commission will likely demand from Apple to charge the same fee to App Store apps. That would off course be problematic for Apple, because it would mean that the "shelves" of the Apple App Store would empty quite quickly.
Which is pointless anyway.Apple's lawyer team is probably working overtime to find a reason to block this update ...
Because they are a music streaming company.Why doesn’t Spotify make their own phone?
And you think apple doesn't immediately jump on Spotify's update and treats it like any other update they forget about form any other company? Have you seen how salty Apple is with the hole Spotify situation? You think this is not intentional?These are updates! not new apps, I am pretty sure this is Spotify being a spoiled ass.... If there are 4K apps that submitted updates on day 1, you really think they can properly vet them in under a day?
Also, why does it seem like it is ONLY Spotify and Epic that have been constantly complaining?
I can't agree with this. Spotify and Epic are acting like the children. They want everything for free completely forgetting the cost of running the platforms they provide their products on.
Microsoft doesn't give us Azure cloud services for free, Amazon doesn't give us AWS for free, why is Apple expected to host a massive platform for free? Their cut is small despite what people try and claim and on par with industry standard (Google is 30% too but never takes heat).
Three points:What's your basis for saying they can't have a different charging logic/mechanism for apps published outside the App Store?
so you've seen their code?They’re putting in some text and a link.
Some text and a link aren’t dangerous and they aren’t aren’t rocket science.
Unless you make it one, because you‘re maliciously searching for details, interpretations or loopholes that allow you denial of approval (though of course we both don‘t know the full content and scope of their update).
Your right that’s why Spotify PAY Apple the developer fee $99 a year.The premise is simple. If I build a city that has the basic infrastructure to where people choose to live there and you want to open a store to sell to them; you owe rent and have to pay tax. That’s how it works.
Correction. A smartphone of sufficient sophistication was essential. Yes Apple was the first to bring such a device to the market, but things were already trending that way. Look at the music-centric Motorola Rokr from 2005. Look at smartphones from 2006. Jobs had the ability to bring a very capable device to market, but if you think that if the iPhone had never existed, that we'd all still be using flip phones in 2024, I think that's an absolutely laughable assumption and would bring into question the validity of any of your other arguments.Bingo. So the iPhone was essential to Spotify‘s development and success.
That hardly covers all of the bandwidth and storage needed by Apple for the App Store.Your right that’s why Spotify PAY Apple the developer fee $99 a year.