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Apple creates an integrated product made possible by their control over hardware and software. They price their product according to what they believe it's worth, and the implication is that you buy into their ecosystem knowing fully well what you are getting yourself into.

I don't walk into a Japanese restaurant and complain that it doesn't serve French cuisine. If you want what Apple won't give you, then maybe you are the problem, not Apple.
 
I am a low level restaurant employee, and if I used my managers to subordinate my coworkers to my will, they would tell me to grow up, and remind me that I must work with everyone. It’s amazing to see Spotify use the EU commission as its tool to get their way. Spotify is acting like a disrespectful child, and the EU commission has fed this whiny monster. It is my wish that Apple hold its breath, and show EU Inc. how to get along.
 
These are updates! not new apps, I am pretty sure this is Spotify being a spoiled ass.... If there are 4K apps that submitted updates on day 1, you really think they can properly vet them in under a day?

Also, why does it seem like it is ONLY Spotify and Epic that have been constantly complaining?

Do you really think apps are reviewed by a real person unless something is actually being flagged by „AI“ beforehand and it warrants a second look? Most of the time it’s just an automatic process.
 
I wish the people on here who complain nonstop about this, or who say Apple has been terrible since the 1980’s… would just jump to Android or Windows already.

You’ll never be happy with Apple.

You can like the product but not its maker. I like my work but I hate the CEO, doesn’t mean I wouldn’t use my product
 
Meanwhile I submitted an app update late before I went to bed on March 13 and when I woke up on March 14, I released it.
 
I seems to me like every company hopes that the new EU rules will open up the market and make them a ton of money. I, for one, doubt that the users will be so tech savvy and, quite the opposite, will get scared by the "jungle" of third party app stores, sideloading, links for purchases outside the App Store that they will voluntarily stay inside Apple's App Store. Too much choice creates insecurity. And, in the end, all these companies that operate outside the App Store will be pressured by the investors to come back to it. It seems to me the EU is listening to all the companies a lot and less to the users. Look at what happened with GDPR with every site opening with a pop-up. 90% of users blindly click "accept" to everything just because that screen is a pain. 5% of users have some browser plug-in installed that does the job for them, and 5% of users use basically only the Apps for everything and never see such a screen.

Imagine a future where I have to click on a link, go to a browser and give all my information to Spotify just to subscribe. Then I'll have to go to a separate App Store to download Word, Power Point and excel, and then go to a website to side load a utility.

And then, from time to time, I'll have to update everything. Opening up 2 App stores, 2 websites...
You can be sure people will use the same password for everything and then, once it gets stolen from the weakest link in the chain your information is no longer secure.

To sum up: I think these rules will only add confusion for users and, in the end, they will choose to stay on the beaten path (at least 80% of them) and, maybe, instead of Spotify which is no longer on the App Store, they will download Tidal, or Apple Music or something else that will be heavily promoted because Apple doesn't have an incentive to promote apps that don't generate revenue whatsoever.
 
so when Spotify doesn’t have to pay what they call the Apple Tax, will they lower the price of subscription? Or pocket the money…?
 
Wow, so Spotify can bring quick updates? Who would have thought… I’m still waiting for airplay 2, high def and Spotify on my HomePod… it’s been many, many years now.
I love the shade. This is exactly how I feel. It’s unreal how long we’ve been wanting Spotify on freaking HomePod. It’s such a joke. And they tease hifi plans 3-4 years ago and nothing. I’m guessing when Apple did it for free it ruffled their feathers. There’s no other excuse I can fathom. Music is a huge part of my day to day life and when they are your streamer of choice, it’d be nice to have 2018 features in 2024.
 
Wow, so Spotify can bring quick updates? Who would have thought… I’m still waiting for airplay 2, high def and Spotify on my HomePod… it’s been many, many years now.
I don’t think Spotify are going to waste their money on that.
I would give up the ghost 👻 on that
 
so when Spotify doesn’t have to pay what they call the Apple Tax, will they lower the price of subscription? Or pocket the money…?
It depends on how you look at it IF
Spotify still used in app purchase then it would be dearer because of the additional fee.
 
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so when Spotify doesn’t have to pay what they call the Apple Tax, will they lower the price of subscription? Or pocket the money…?

Spotify hasn’t paid the Apple tax for years.

The question everyone should be asking of them is - when are they going to update their app to support features like lossless audio, better watch support, airplay 2 and the Vision Pro?

Or is this somehow all Apple’s fault again?
 
Anyway, I turned my Paid account into a Free one. Bye A$12.99 to them.

They havent delivered the high res music option the promised two years ago.
Great. That‘s how competition should work, doesn‘t it?
Thank god there‘s more than one or two music streaming services to choose from.
That a governing body made a set of rules that does not seem to affect EU businesses. But sure benefits them through tearing down US tech companies.
Epic Games are an American company - any they are also affected. So are Netflix or Amazon with their Kindle app.
And on top, imagine Apple approves "quickly" and then finds out app violates something and rejects it ... these are new rules and I think Apple is doing due diligence
They’re putting in some text and a link.

Some text and a link aren’t dangerous and they aren’t aren’t rocket science.

Unless you make it one, because you‘re maliciously searching for details, interpretations or loopholes that allow you denial of approval (though of course we both don‘t know the full content and scope of their update).
 
Apple are probably still trying to find where the native HomePod support is Spotify previously promised and everything else! 🤣
You won’t get HomePod support as not a lot of people own one so probably not worth the resources to implement
 
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These are updates! not new apps, I am pretty sure this is Spotify being a spoiled ass.... If there are 4K apps that submitted updates on day 1, you really think they can properly vet them in under a day?

Also, why does it seem like it is ONLY Spotify and Epic that have been constantly complaining?
Because they both are bigger companies that’s why you hear more about them
 
Let’s eliminate the abstractions so we can better see what’s real. Those legacy platforms (Windows Mobile, Palm OS, Symbian, and BlackBerry) don’t exist anymore because the iPhone was superior and buyers chose the iPhone. This created an iPhone market that was attractive to both developers and service providers like Spotify. The combined movement of buyers, developers and service providers from the legacy platforms to the iPhone killed the legacy platforms and benefitted iPhone users, developers and service providers like Spotify.
I think your missing a company out there big fella it’s called android
 
Is this the way it is going to be — each week, another article starting with “Spotify complains”? I would suggest this be modified to “Spotify whines about”.

Did the EU stipulate how long Apple gets to review an app or app update before it is allowed into the App Store? No. The law just went into effect about a week ago.
Did Apple not say themselves they approve app updates within 24 hours
 
Or better yet. If their product is so good, stop offering it on Apple devices and get your user base to switch to Android.

Edit: now I know people have a right to their own opinion and I would love to know why some are angry at my statement. Personally, if Spotify or Epic think they are the bees knees (etc) and their products are so great, I am not suggesting they make their own hardware, but instead take the fight to Apple’s hardware sales/money and not offer their great products on a platform that they feel is “mean” to them. If I bought my iPhone for how awesome Spotify is and they stopped offering an App because of big “bad” Apple, I would probably trade my iPhone in for whatever supports my favorite music streaming service.

(Personally I won’t touch Spotify.)
So stop crying to mommy and bring back the good old, after school playground beat downs.
In face of such a choice most would realise that switching to android for a music app is not worth it. That’s why Spotify is f@@@@@.
 
I love the shade. This is exactly how I feel. It’s unreal how long we’ve been wanting Spotify on freaking HomePod. It’s such a joke. And they tease hifi plans 3-4 years ago and nothing. I’m guessing when Apple did it for free it ruffled their feathers. There’s no other excuse I can fathom. Music is a huge part of my day to day life and when they are your streamer of choice, it’d be nice to have 2018 features in 2024.
It’s in Apple’s interest to support the HomePod & airplay 2
 
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