Exactly. Imagine a smaller developer that can't afford to absorb the 30% loss in revenue for EVERY payment feature in their app. They are faced with creating a cut-down app that excludes any payment features or simply not developing for the platform at all. With that, why are some developers/companies exempt from the 30%? Because they are large enough to negotiate with Apple. Same cannot be said for smaller developers. So Apple's argument of wanting to create a "level playing field" for developers is absolute crap. The App Store polices are significantly outdated (created in a time where subscriptions and cloud services were really in their infancy) and NEED review and updating.
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Spotify Sides With Epic Games in Battle Against Apple's App Store Fees
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Exactly. Imagine a smaller developer that can't afford to absorb the 30% loss in revenue for EVERY payment feature in their app. They are faced with creating a cut-down app that excludes any payment features or simply not developing for the platform at all. With that, why are some developers/companies exempt from the 30%? Because they are large enough to negotiate with Apple. Same cannot be said for smaller developers. So Apple's argument of wanting to create a "level playing field" for developers is absolute crap. The App Store polices are significantly outdated (created in a time where subscriptions and cloud services were really in their infancy) and NEED review and updating.
Splotify will not let me offer my content at a fair price. I expect to be able to offer my material and be reimbursed $19.99 a play. It's my choice how much I get paid on their platform. If they don't charge enough to cover my costs that's their fault.
Canceled my Spotify subscription. They had the right to say whatever about their business with Apple but now they're siding with some Chinese company that's suing Apple.
You mean:
Manufacturer advertising on the retail packaging a sale of 50% off retail price if you buy it directly from the manufacturer instead at Walmart where you did see the product. And when Walmart takes the product off the shelves, Manufacturer suing Walmart.
unless the developer always makes the Apple version 30% more expensive, similar to what Epic literally just did today.
No one is stoping people from jailbreaking their phones. Apple is just not going to be responsible for it. Thats all.
Walmart wouldn't sell if the package had ads undercutting them... It would be removed from the store
didn’t others do that before? I think Spotify used to be more expensive if you subscribed from the iPhone directly?
Who should determine the margins a store owner charges if not the store owner?
Maybe US government should plan that a 13% margin is fair and force Apple to change that instead of 30%? Why not have US government also design the UX for the store or technology for the dev tools? Surely something beneficial for all parties will come from that...
Then apps will be damaging for the phone its better to have a safe app store
The problem is not Apple forcing their rules on their store. The problem is that they prevent any other method from getting an app on a device you own and justifying it with security claims.
Who says an alternative App Store isn’t safe by default?
Who says no one needs a ******* app?
Who says no one should pay via crypto on their phone?
Who says I shouldn’t be able to use a device I bought to its full potential?
Who says it’s okay to censor some telegram groups or other in app contents bc they don’t fit the device manufacturers values which they force upon u?
Apple does.
It’s just about power and control. And they have way too much. Epics move is brilliant and I hope it changes something.
Who says an alternative App Store isn’t safe by default?
Who says no one needs a ******* app?
Who says no one should pay via crypto on their phone?
Who says I shouldn’t be able to use a device I bought to its full potential?
Who says it’s okay to censor some telegram groups or other in app contents bc they don’t fit the device manufacturers values which they force upon u?
Apple does.
It’s just about power and control. And they have way too much. Epics move is brilliant and I hope it changes something.
Apple should have took a time-out right after the senate hearings in a show of good will. That alone would have gone a long way in cooling things off. Escalating things doesn't sound like a good plan.
A time out right now sounds like a good time also. Any show of good PR on Apple’s part would be good call.
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Anyone vaguely recall a protracted legal battle with a company called Samsung? Then one with anoher called Qualcomm?
And these were ones where people had some sympathy towards Apple. Not so much here.
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Apple, go to the corner and think about this. Seriously. Take a time out.
A time out right now sounds like a good time also. Any show of good PR on Apple’s part would be good call.
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Anyone vaguely recall a protracted legal battle with a company called Samsung? Then one with anoher called Qualcomm?
And these were ones where people had some sympathy towards Apple. Not so much here.
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Apple, go to the corner and think about this. Seriously. Take a time out.
Im sorry but fortnite are money takers they have ruined so many kids with that game and use it to make people go broke they are just in it for the money, good on apple for standing its ground, if they dont play by the rules then go away
my chrome, adobe, native instruments, steam, firefox, EA origin, battlenet, microsoft office, alfred, logitech, setapp, and epic games launcher updater/background services would like to have a word with you.
good luck selecting the 8GB ram option for the iPhone...oh wait...
Then by an android and you will be fine, if you dont like apples way just leave
Thats the lie Apple keeps telling you. How can an app be damaging to a device by default? Maybe it’s just a feature Apple doesn’t want u to have. Like a clipboard manager.
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it’s a brilliant device and I like their ecosystem. As a power user I just want more freedom.
I originally thought apple was in the wrong here, but as I thought about it I realized the scenario. Apple is providing a space & clientele for these businesses. Spotify and Epic want to be able to put their services in this space without paying a lease. It's like a masseuse going into a resort and saying "I'm going to do massages for your resort guests in your lobby that people will pay for, but you don't get anything for it."
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This was all pre-planned. Epic has been planning on this for last two weeks. They finally decided to pull the trigger and take the chance. They're standing upppp now.
But every single iPhone buyer is fully aware that if they buy an iPhone, they have to purchase apps through the Apple App Store. If a consumers doesn't like that, they can purchase a different phone from a different manufacturer. Apple doesn't even come close to have a monopoly on smart phone marketshare.
If you don't like a platform rules, then don't put your apps/games on there. It very simple.
I'm not defending Apple, but just because some internet distribution and payment models were not regulated either by laws or by a private company in the 90s and everything seemed to be "free", doesn't mean that today you are entitled to use someone else's privately run and regulated infrastructure (that it's clearly designed to fit their business practices) so you can make money for yourself and pay whatever you think it's fair for you to pay to the owner. Sorry, but the real world doesn't work like this. Most complains and alliances by these so-called partner developers are clearly an attempt to negatively affect the public perception of the owner's infrastructure. Just shut up, get your product out of said network and affect their business practices with facts if your product is really that good.
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