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Doubt it. The average joe doesn't even know how to jailbreak a phone, let alone even know what a jailbroken phone is or the point of even doing it for that matter.
Be honest about it dude, You Know many jailbreakers aren't buying many apps, if jailbreakers were well known for buying apps then these companies wouldn't going through such lengths to stop piracy from jailbreakers.

Many 'Average Joes' know about Jailbreaking. Not many do it, but some do. Most people that Jailbreak use it to BUY apps from Cydia, as well as the App Store.

You're right but on a PC or Mac game companies are now requiring online gameplay only so the activation code can be verified or the other course is they are going the Steam route.

You realise that people still play 'online activation' games for free, right? It's more difficult, but not impossible in the slightest.
 
Of course they reversed the incredibly stupid decision.

This may be an unpopular post, but I support SE in their attempt to reduce piracy. Yes, it was using a blunt object to try to accomplish a very specific objective. But I have to sympathize with companies who put time, money and effort into a product just to see huge numbers of people steal it.

Here are my thoughts as to why they weren't totally wrong:

1. We don't know the number of people who have pirated SE games, but SE may be able to see how many activations, or server pings or whatever. There are precedents where developers sold a small number of copies and yet had thousands of users attaching to their servers to play. So, it's not improbable that this is a serious problem for a high profile game.

2. They really said that the reason that they are reversing is that they didn't do a good job of explaining that this would happen BEFORE purchasing. If there is plenty of warning given to customers, then only jailbreakers that were also stupid would be hurt. Yes, they might lose some (again difficult to quantify) customers, but it would be because those customers valued what they get from jailbreaking more than they wanted to play the game. Much less of a backlash than you would get if someone paid money and then couldn't play the game.

3. I am aware that many jailbreakers have no intention of stealing software and that if very clever you can steal on non-jailbroken devices, but the anecdotal evidence says that there are substantial numbers of jailbreakers who are also pirating apps. It's like the porpoises and the tuna. It's really sad that some porpoises get caught in tuna nets, but let's be honest, the ratio of tuna to porpoises is pretty large.

Anyway, I feel bad that in order to not alienate some customers, a company has to allow its product to be stolen by many others. Hopefully, they can find a more elegant way to only block those who don't have a legitimate right to play.

Uh, you do realize this didn't stop pirating customers, right? It didn't disable the game itself or anything.

Their efforts would be far more useful into other ways of detecting actual pirated copies rather than blocking jailbreaks as many other applications have done.

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That's hardly the same thing. Do you really think a pirate is going go through all the trouble to get a dev account when they can just jailbreak?

"just jailbreak"...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

It's 10x easier to get a developers account and resign apps than it is to jailbreak, which is not always available...
 
Well if the app touches their servers in any way pirated copies increase server load with no payment. The pirated copies are stealing limited resources from the company.

Excuse my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious how applications verify their legitimacy.

iTunes accounts are linked/activated on each device. Each device has a UUID. Purchased applications can only be installed on devices registered with the iTunes Store account. Additionally, simple cross-checks to determine if a device's UUID is registered to use said paid app would deter a good amount of server overload as approval would be denied. Cracked app's that don't call home to official servers would not run. I'm unfamiliar with the workings of pirated iOS applications, I don't know how a pirated app is obtained/cracked/used but if verifying its legitimacy is pivotal I would imagine it being very difficult to pirate.

I'm certain there is always a way around this procedure (assuming this is anywhere near accurate), but I doubt there are enough pirated app's running around checks that it is resulting in severe loses for developers and businesses.
 
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I laugh at all the people who say things along the line of 'this is a disgrace, I was gonna buy the game now but they are discriminating against me now I won't ' it's such a sad state of affairs to be in a place where people just assume they have the right to play games that other people have spent time developing for free. I agree that there are jail breakers who do it for non illegal reasons but did u not hear about that MMO that was removed because it couldn't keep it's servers going.
I'm not saying I don't know what the answer is but I don't think people should blaming them for trying to explore ways to curb pirating!
 
huh? How do you figure? Hell, I have *more* paid software on my phone because of the jailbreak, as I have several very handy tools and tweaks from Cydia and not available from Apple's app store that I've paid for

I'm not saying that you don't pay for everything. All the people I know with jailbroken devices have at least one pirated program even though they didn't jailbreak their devices in order to run pirated apps. Their justification is that they are trying it out or, even more common, that they would never purchase the app in any case so it doesn't matter that they pirated it.
 
I wonder why these developers opt to go for jailbreakers in the first place, why not just check for wether or not the app is pirated? Such code shouldn't be to difficult at all.
 
Don't blame the employees for it. They are just told what to do so they can keep their jobs.

then blame the employees that told the employees to implement the anti-jailbreak.

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I was under the impression that one was innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around

"I can" does not mean "I did"

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Yeah well PCs and Macs can download and play games illegally. That doesn't stop people making games for them! To assume that all jailbreakers are pirates is completely wrong.

Ugh, google: Ubisoft, Assassin's creed DRM
Anyways...
All I said was, "jailbroken iPhones CAN download games illegally". I didn't say they did.
 
Ugh, google: Ubisoft, Assassin's creed DRM

And despite steam's success with drm (when it's actually used by an external publisher), dross like this is still created. When EA, ubisoft, adobe etc. continue to push their ridiculous solutions, it is quite simply themselves and the paying customer that loses out.

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, business models are the most effective way of reducing piracy. Any app can be and all high profile, locked down atrocities are quickly cracked - legitate customers wonder why they bothered and trudge through whatever system, limitations and quirks they're presented with while cracked copies are unencumbered.
 
That's dumb. Jailbreak is legal.

But it's NOT SUPPORTED by Apple, so they have no reason to apologize either. Now they were a little heavy handed to add code to post a message about it. It's nice of them to patch the error message out, but I see no reason to give refunds as the app works on intended devices... But heading off the bad press is good.

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I was under the impression that one was innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around

They are a private business, they can sell their game or lock their game to/from whomever they please. If they don't want it to work on jail broken devices its their right.

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I would have actually purchased this game had the company not discriminated against me as some who has jail broken I his iPhone. Jail breaking and illegally downloading apps aren't synonymous and only idiots think so...

Somebody's Excel graph tells differently. This isn't a court.. This is purely actuarial. Just like insurance companies charge more for red cars... They don't care WHY, just that the probability of spending money is fractionally greater. Same thing here.
 
All four of you are on this site.

All iOS pirates are jailbreakers, but not all jailbreakers are pirates.

By definition, someone who breaks out of jail is not honourable and does not belong in our society. Pirates steal software, jail breakers have ALL at one time or another tried software that they were not entitled to. No exceptions unless they haven't yet had time to illegally download it.
 
jailbroken iphones can download and play the game illegally.

Aww, that's so cute, you think that anyone that actually wanted to pirate this game couldn't get around that! :)

By definition, someone who breaks out of jail is not honourable and does not belong in our society. Pirates steal software, jail breakers have ALL at one time or another tried software that they were not entitled to. No exceptions unless they haven't yet had time to illegally download it.

You sir, are a liar. I have never once pirated software with iOS and never plan to.

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Anyone who thinks that blocking jailbreakers does anything except hurt paying customers and make pirates laugh, has to be mentally challenged, there is no other explantation.
 
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By definition, someone who breaks out of jail is not honourable and does not belong in our society. Pirates steal software, jail breakers have ALL at one time or another tried software that they were not entitled to. No exceptions unless they haven't yet had time to illegally download it.

Ahh, crass blanket statements. Truly the recourse of the intellectually astute. Your logic stuns me, sir.

Listen. I've jailbroken my iDevices twice now, and I've yet to download a single app illegally. It wasn't even an issue of time or know-how. I knew exactly how to add the Installious repository to Cydia. I just didn't do it because I didn't want to steal a bunch of $1 to $20 apps.

jailbroken iphones can download and play the game illegally.

You've got a Mac, correct? Then there's absolutely nothing stopping you from going out right now, grabbing a copy of something you want to play off ThePirateBay, and installing it.

Are you a thief? You must be, because you're using an OS that can download and play games illegally.
 
So on conclusion, if you want an app to become popular do something ridiculous to get on Macrumors and then fix it for 2 front page news stories on said app.
 
Blows my mind how people equate jailbreaking with stealing, I have bought many apps in Cydia with my old 3gs, I currently use a jailbroken 4s on 6.1.2 to unlock and use the carrier of my choice. I paid full price for the thing and I will use it on what network I chose...I don't steal apps, I just want to use MY phone how I want.
 
By definition, someone who breaks out of jail is not honourable and does not belong in our society. Pirates steal software, jail breakers have ALL at one time or another tried software that they were not entitled to. No exceptions unless they haven't yet had time to illegally download it.

Pure BS.
 
Somebody's Excel graph tells differently. This isn't a court.. This is purely actuarial. Just like insurance companies charge more for red cars... They don't care WHY, just that the probability of spending money is fractionally greater. Same thing here.
Except that is incorrect. Red cars are not charged more, or pulled over more by police (a related assumption).

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By definition, someone who breaks out of jail is not honourable and does not belong in our society. Pirates steal software, jail breakers have ALL at one time or another tried software that they were not entitled to. No exceptions unless they haven't yet had time to illegally download it.

Completely false. Do you also make generalized statements about people with different skin color? Don't believe everything you think.
 
Good decision. I've never jail broken any of my devices (yet) but that was probably one of the dumbest anti piracy measures I've ever seen put into practice.

Yes they may have deterred an extremely small number of users from jailbreaking in fear of other developers adopting the same practice and yes it would have stopped pirates from playing the game (as it's meant to be) illegally. However the likelyhood that this would've encouraged jailbreakers (legitimate and pirates alike) to undo and restore their devices, is very slim considering the game is like a drop in an ocean.

Then of course they would have been loosing out on consumers with jailbroken devices who would have purchased the game through legitimate means. Where as the pirates would have just moved on to the next paid game they can get for free as they weren't going to buy the game anyway.
 
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