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I don't understand the people that say the Apple Watch is more business appropriate then the Sport. When I look at the dumbwatch my coworkers have there is a pretty good split between SS and black. Personally I believe the black looks better, it's more subdued and not as flashy. That's what I like about the sport, less flash not drawing attention to my wrist as opposed to the conversation or work that is occurring.

If they offered the Sport with Saphire, it would be a question for me. A silver sport would be tons better then the flashy stainless steel. But I guess to each his own.
 
I'm not seeking to "prove" anything. I have a hypothesis that I am supporting with the best available data and reasoning at my disposal.

Other than Apple buzz marketing, neither you nor I have any idea about the specific numerical property values of Ion-X. So, in the absense of that, I'm using the best available data of similar products, with the stated caveat that they are not identical.

If you're argument is I can't do that, well I disagree. If I want to compare the properties of two things — say, the Young's modulus of gelatin and saltine crackers, I can make some broad characterization that serve as a reasonable starting point for a hypothesis. Yes, there are different brands of gelatin and crackers out there and they'll have different moduli, but there will be a range of property values that can still be reasonably established. There's a whole field of materials research dealing with evaluating and classifying properties. Properties within a family have ranges but tend to group together. They make very pretty bubble plots.

Now, I'm open to the idea that this new glass apple is using (which may very well be an existing familiar product that they are branding with this new moniker) could be a very good glass in terms of toughness. Maybe it's even the best, toughest glass on the market. But even still, the hurdle in property magnitude that would have to be crossed to reach the toughness of sapphire is pretty big.

The testing you mention of sapphire's brittleness, at least the ones I've seen, reference studies done by Corning (the manufacturer of Gorilla Glass). Corning itself focuses mostly on the advantages of its lower weight and lower cost. Their strength of materials results...are a little less clear, and are definitely stated with a little less bravado. I'm not saying the tests are invalid, but I'm also going to point out that Corning is not an independent, impartial party in this discussion. Their results have been filtered through various levels of corporate hierarchy before they were churned out as a marketing document. Again, they could be spot on, but this is not a peer-reviewed study. There's generally a lot of hand-waving and misdirection (coincidentally, Apple does this as well as any other company out there). It's basic entrepreneural strategy — you amplify and magnify the strengths, and you soft pedal and obscure the weaknesses.

Corning exec is quoted: "What would people say if someone invented a cover that was about half the weight, used 99 percent less energy to make, provided brighter displays, and cost less than a tenth of sapphire? I think they’d say that sapphire was in real trouble."

Okay, so those are the real advantages of glass. The ones the leading glass manufacturer used as the "elevator speech" talking points.

Now what do they have to say about the durability of the material? From the same Corning press release: " In one of our commonly accepted strength tests, sapphire breaks more easily than Gorilla Glass after the same simulated use. Additionally, sapphire’s cost and environmental hit are huge issues."

There's a big change in surety there. In "one test" of simulated usage, with conditions defined by the biggest glass producer out there, they were able to get the sapphire to break first. Huh. That's interesting. Also, a shift in focus back to the other established advantages of glass, which they are confident about and don't want you to forget about.

I can tell you that when you're doing a testing protocol, you can almost always find at least one run, or one specific condition, where you can get the result that's "desirable." Industries use this kind of behavior all the time. It is much closer aligned to what the marketing department needs.

So, with all that said, who's right? I don't know. My point wasn't to prove right or wrong, it was to provide the best evidence I have for my hypothesis. Take it or leave it. I guess maybe somewhere down the line, there will be some data about incidence rates of Apple Watch faces shattering, and the debate can be revisited!

And hey, if it means anything, I will probably buy the Sport edition! I'm betting it wouldn't fare a drop as well, but I'm willing to bet with my dollars that it will hold up just fine if it's cared for.

Boy was that is a really long post. But I enjoyed it. So thank you for taking the time to write it.
 
Apple Watch Vs Apple Watch Sport: I can't decide

Ok



Aluminium is a light silver which doesn't go with any of the metal straps as they are all made of stainless steel



The Stainless steel goes with every strap including the sports bands



Stainless steel looks duller and shinier - more classy



Also, somewhat unreported, is that the sports watch connects to the strap horizontally whereas the stainless steel watch connects pointing down which is a better grip and more comfortable for most people



Best Rgds


Ok thanks for the help. I really would like to get the SS, but man $700 is a ton to spend on a watch. I also don't want to get the Sport and then wish for the next year or more that I had spent the extra and gone with the SS.

I thought I was going to skip the Apple watch all together because I have been using and Nexus 6 and moto 360, but I miss my 6+ too much. Now if I want an AW I will be waiting until June.


Does the leather loop look good with the Sport?
 
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Ok thanks for the help. I really would like to get the SS, but man $700 is a ton to spend on a watch. I also don't want to get the Sport and then wish for the next year or more that I had spent the extra and gone with the SS.

I thought I was going to skip the Apple watch all together because I have been using and Nexus 6 and moto 360, but I miss my 6+ too much. Now if I want an AW I will be waiting until June.


Does the leather loop look good with the Sport?

yeah decisions decisions

I was going to skip the watch but stupidly I went into an Apple store and they are quite beautiful to look at

I think the coloured leather loops looks ok with the silver sport, and also the black leather loop and black classic strap look good with the black sport, but the other sport combinations don't look so great IMHO

I strongly recommend you go into a store and have a look if you can, as it completely changed my mind about what to buy.
 
Practical? Sport.

Those of you that have tried the SS and sport. Which one seems more practical? I am thinking I getting one, but I don't know if the SS is worth the premium you have to pay.

I've ordered a Sport with white band (still waiting) but I've also ordered the click watch band adapter and plan to get a nice stainless steel band for dressing it up when I want to: http://www.allwatchbands.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MB5207SC22 I chose this band because all of my other jewelry is yellow gold, and I think this will help the watch "transition" between the color that it actually is (silver) and the rest of my jewelry. That is assuming that anyone is really looking that closely, for any amount of time more than about 3 seconds :D

Practical? For me, yes, because this is a first generation product. I know I'll likely get an upgrade in a couple of years, and I'll save the outlay for now and get the SS version then.
 
I've ordered a Sport with white band (still waiting) but I've also ordered the click watch band adapter and plan to get a nice stainless steel band for dressing it up when I want to: .

have you seen a watch sport in an apple shop with a stainless steel band ? It really doesn't go
 
yeah decisions decisions

I was going to skip the watch but stupidly I went into an Apple store and they are quite beautiful to look at

I think the coloured leather loops looks ok with the silver sport, and also the black leather loop and black classic strap look good with the black sport, but the other sport combinations don't look so great IMHO

I strongly recommend you go into a store and have a look if you can, as it completely changed my mind about what to buy.


Oh ok thanks for the help. The problem is the Apple Store is over an hour from me, so it takes a weekend day free to make the trip. I really want to SS silver with blue leather loop. Also with the blue chronograph watchface. Man that just looks awesome to me. I tried to recreate it with my Moto 360. Don't think it looks too bad.

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Oh ok thanks for the help. The problem is the Apple Store is over an hour from me, so it takes a weekend day free to make the trip. I really want to SS silver with blue leather loop. Also with the blue chronograph watchface. Man that just looks awesome to me.


The SS silver looks good with anything (which is its key advantage) so if you like the strap you will like the watch ;)
 
Well crap that mean $750.


Which colour leather loop were you thinking of buying ? The coloured one look good with the silver sport, not as good as with the stainless steel but still pretty good

And the black leather loop does look good with the back sport

If you plan to keep the watch for a year you could divide the extra cost by 12 to convert to a monthly cost - less frightening then :D
 
I originally ordered a Sport, then later ordered a SS. I lean towards matte and less showy things, so I was really surprised at my try-on how much nicer the SS looked. The sharp contrast from the screen makes the SS really stand out, relative to the brushed aluminum. But this is all subjective.

Less subjectively, the sapphire screen should resist scratches much better. Also, you are hosed if you nick your aluminum bodied watch. The SS can be re-polished.

The Sport just doesn't go with any of the Apple bands that have a metal connector.

Finally, when you go to sell your Apple Watch 12-24 months from now, it will be worth more. Probably not $200 more, but you'll get some of the $200 delta back.
 
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If you're truly making a pro con list, you should probably add something like

Apple Watch Sport 200+$ saved for Apple Watch 2.0 to buy next year.
 
Which colour leather loop were you thinking of buying ? The coloured one look good with the silver sport, not as good as with the stainless steel but still pretty good

And the black leather loop does look good with the back sport

If you plan to keep the watch for a year you could divide the extra cost by 12 to convert to a monthly cost - less frightening then :D


Well I am looking at the blue leather loop. It looks really good to me. The only issue is it does work well with everything like black or brown. Apple just does not give you much choice with leather loops to get with the watch.
 
There is a lot of stress about the price difference on these forums, and the fact the product might be refreshed every year. I personally don't think the situation is as drammatic as people are making it. When the next generation comes out, you only need to buy the body you want and the cheapest band available -- Apple would be insane if they changed the band clips each generation.

So the price difference is $200 at the current tiers... $350 for sport and $550 for SS. I get that everyone has a different budget, but if $350 is within your yearly discretional spending, what's another $200? One night when you stay home and cook for the wife instead of going to a nice restaurant?

Seems to me, if you can afford the watch at all, the only deciding factors should be preference, as the price is really not significantly different in the way so many people are implying (edition obviously excluded), nor is the yearly refresh.

Or am I missing the point somehow?
 
Ok



Aluminium is a light silver which doesn't go with any of the metal straps as they are all made of stainless steel



The Stainless steel goes with every strap including the sports bands



Stainless steel looks duller and shinier - more classy



Also, somewhat unreported, is that the sports watch connects to the strap horizontally whereas the stainless steel watch connects pointing down which is a better grip and more comfortable for most people



Best Rgds

How can SS be duller and shinier? Those two words are the opposite of each other.

Also the sport and SS watch cases are physically the same and connect in the same exact angle and manner.

To the OP: I happen to like the contrast of the SG sport with the SS bands
 
Oh ok thanks for the help. The problem is the Apple Store is over an hour from me, so it takes a weekend day free to make the trip. I really want to SS silver with blue leather loop. Also with the blue chronograph watchface. Man that just looks awesome to me. I tried to recreate it with my Moto 360. Don't think it looks too bad.

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what face is that on the moto?
 
I was second-guessing my Sport order until I went to Apple and tried them on. I liked the look of the SS, but I found I also liked the way the Sport looks. I don't think it looks cheap at all. But, of course, that's just my opinion. I have the next year or so to contemplate which version on AW2 I'll get, but for now I am very happy
 
I had no financial limitation so could purchase either the aluminium or SS.

I was originally not interested in the watch. However when it got close to pre-order day I decided that I would go for an aluminium sport as it was a gen 1, cheapest entry level etc etc.

However, on launch day I decided that I was assuming that gen 1 would be superseded in a year. I decided that in my opinion, that gen 1 will not be superseded for a couple of years. However even if gen 2 does come next year, I still have to be happy with my purchase for the next year at least. With this in mind I bought the SS. The better quality case, the fact all bands match it, and that it has a sapphire screen justified the increased cost to me.
 
SS for me. I was debating for it too but since I figured $200 extra for a whole year of use means it's only 55 cents a day extra. 200/365= .55 so worth it.
 
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