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I read all the negative reviews for The Force Awakens which is expected. There will always be a backlash on anything. I didn't expect it to please everyone. No film could. Main issue is the fact it is simply a stupid remake. Kevin Smith even stated we don't need a third story about blowing up a Death Star as it was already done with ANH and ROTJ. I agree. We didn't need another story like that. But it is becoming such a oversimplification complaint about it.

Watching the trailers during the past year before it, I didn't expect it to be a NEW story. They tried doing it with the PT, and they didn't FEEL like Star Wars. Now when JJ wanted people to feel like it is a SW film like the OT, people complain? Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

The idea was to hinge with people's nostalgia. Except nostalgia can run its course. I know it felt a little too deja vu for me watching another Death Star blow up, but I already expected it. All deliberate. To recapture the magic the OT had especially Ep 4 and introduce it to a newer gen who never felt what others felt back in 1977. TFA is more of JJ's tribute and love letter to his fav SW film ever, A New Hope.

Some critics aren't pointing out the differences between TFA vs ANH/OT. They only want to point out the similarities and whine about that.

- Did ANH show the movie from a pilot and ex-Stormtrooper perspective? I don't recall Wedge having that many lines like Poe did.

- Did you ever see Darth Vader or any Sith freeze a laser beam in mid-air? Then unleash it when he walks away?

- Did you ever see how resourceful Luke and Anakin were with the little they had? Hell, I don't remember Rey being whiney as they were! She could fight for herself against multiple attackers that made the first black lead actor in SW look wimpy and clumsy by comparison.

- Did you ever see blood like that from a dying Stormtrooper smeared to Finn?

- Did you ever see a massacre of people in Jakku or a reaction shot when multiple planets are ready to blow up? I didn't see the Tusken Raiders (Sand People) get massacred in AOTC after Anakin announced it to Padmé. Only a beheading of one.

- Did you ever see a Stormtrooper have a weapon that can combat a lightsaber?

- Did you ever see a caring Stormtrooper, ever? Previous Stormtroopers never showed a guilty conscience.

- Did you ever see a Force Vision?

- Did you ever see a major character die who carried more emotional weight than when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gonn were killed? We barely knew those Jedis. Some have known Han for nearly 40 years and he was one of the highlights of the OT. We grew to love Han over many years and multiple films. Obi-Wan chose to give up and Qui-Gonn felt like an add-on character which created plot holes for the later episodes. Since when did Obi-Wan ever mention Qui-Gonn in TESB?

- Did you see a female fight a male during a lightsaber duel? Actually, I never seen a female character ever turning it on in any of the previous six films.

- Did you ever see an OUTDOOR lightsaber duel like that where trunks of trees were getting sliced? Everything has usually been indoors with the exception of Anakin v Obi-Wan in Mustanfar.

- Did you ever see a SW where one of the main characters to the series is missing and we didn't see him until the closing scene?

- Did ANH show us desert, snow/ice, and forest? It took the entire OT to show us all three terrains.

The Force Awakens is by no means a perfect film and isn't the best in the series. Most true SW fans know that. But saying it is just a stupid remake or is not creative enough is such an oversimplification. They showed enough NEW scenes and plot points to me.

If you want to criticize TFA's recycled story, then why not criticize The Avengers or the Batman films?

- Let's see, there is a scrawny villian who wants to take over Earth in The Avengers and he has an alien army. It took seconds for Hulk to beat him like a ragdoll. Puny god.

- Age of Ultron which was a bigger disappointment to most, there is this robot this time but multiplies itself and wants to blow up the world but a climax at the end was this floating, fictional city. Heroes save the day again! No kidding!

- In the Batman movies, there is this villian or two who wants to destroy Gotham and Batman will do everything to stop them!

In any comic-book film, there is always a villian that wants to take over or destroy a city, entire world, or galaxy. The hero triumphs at the end like usual. With Captain America: Civil War and Batman v Superman, we already know these films are wrestling matches. We know Cap and Iron Man will team up to fight Thanos in Infinity Wars and Superman & Batman will team up with Wonder Woman to form the Justice League. How predictable those movies will be and they haven't been released yet!

It is an insult to say Rey is another Luke and Kylo Ren is another Vader. Rey (Daisy Ridley) has already proven she is better than Luke, a whiney farmboy who needed Obi-Wan, Han, Leia, and Vader to save him. Kylo Ren could be a greater and more menacing and unpredictable villian Vader ever was.

But TFA gets criticized for its unimaginative, unambitious story when other higher reviewed movies and TV shows are just as guilty of recycling us the same stories too. The Force Awakens deserves every dollar it makes like its first line for "making things right." Both the OT & PT needed fixing. If only the haters can open their eyes more and actually point out the differences to see it is the perfect SW film offering a good balance of both old and new material to cater to both an old and new generation audience...

Did you ever see a Stormtrooper have a weapon that can combat a lightsaber?

It was equipped with the latest light saber guard. ;)

If you want to criticize TFA's recycled story, then why not criticize The Avengers or the Batman films?

A reboot is different than the continuation of a story. Reboots, like retelling the ST Khan story is to be expected. However, it is also expected to be freshened up, which it was IMO. This would like in the Second Harry Potter story/movie if he was back in school and had to repeat most of the things he did in the first book, avoid a 3 headed dog, play a giant game of chess, chase some keys, etc etc. that would never fly in a second book, but SWs fans are so needy and desperate after Episodes I-III, they'll snap up the story leftovers of a movie that some call blatantly repetitive, but admittedly restores the SWs vibe we loved. :D
 
This would like in the Second Harry Potter story/movie if he was back in school and had to repeat most of the things he did in the first book, avoid a 3 headed dog, play a giant game of chess, chase some keys, etc etc. that would never fly in a second book, but SWs fans are so needy and desperate after Episodes I-III, they'll snap up the story leftovers of a movie that some call blatantly repetitive, but admittedly restores the SWs vibe we loved. :D
Well, exactly. :(

It was good to see the old characters, but for the new ones, I give it a solid "meh."

Since there was no Jar-Jar, I won't even pretend i won't go see the next one.
 
TFA is even that good - we don't even discuss the movie anymore. Just merchandise and how much it's grossing. :D

That being said, I ponder over going to see it a second time, now in 3d. Heard that was done quite well, and I have yet to see a good 3d movie.

I watched in IMAX 3D and really enjoyed. I'd like to watch it again in standard, but just because I'd like to watch it more critically and less for the wow factor.
 
TFA is even that good - we don't even discuss the movie anymore. Just merchandise and how much it's grossing. :D

That being said, I ponder over going to see it a second time, now in 3d. Heard that was done quite well, and I have yet to see a good 3d movie.
I watched in IMAX 3D and really enjoyed. I'd like to watch it again in standard, but just because I'd like to watch it more critically and less for the wow factor.
I think the best 3D movie I happened to see was in IMAX and it was Gravity--it practically made it feel like I was in space throughout most of the movie (having fairly good seats probably played a role in all of it too).
 
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Now Rey is missing from the new Monopoly game. This is not economics.

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The problems of female characters being under-represented in geek merchandise is real. But when it’s a secondary character like Gamora or Black Widow, at least toy companies have an excuse. When the girl is not just the star of the movie, but of the whole franchise, that’s another story.

Looks like they are listening to the fans.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/6/10721788/rey-in-star-wars-monopoly-hasbro-adding
 
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Now Rey is missing from the new Monopoly game. This is not economics.

This was Hasbro's excuse for excluding Rey ...
"The Star Wars: Monopoly game was released in September, months before the movie's release," the statement reads. "Rey was not included to avoid revealing a key plot line that she takes on Kylo Ren and joins the Rebel Alliance."

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/5/107...-why-rey-was-excluded-from-star-wars-monopoly

Sure. That makes sense. :confused:
 
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This was Hasbro's excuse for excluding Rey ...


Sure. That makes sense. :confused:
You can maybe buy some of that for that particular game, even if it still makes more sense to include her than Finn. But her not being there in various other basic sets (like the 6-pack action figure set or the Millenium Falcon set), that doesn't have much of an explanation.
 
The Force Awakens is tied with Attack of the Clones for 2nd worst Star Wars film (Phantom Menace comes in last place)

Horrible film. A carload of us drove away after the movie, being not sure what exactly we had just watched, if not simply an extended parody trailer for a future movie. Just lame. Lack of creativity. Overly pandering in every direction. I thought Lucas had done a good job of making me never want to watch a Star Wars film again after he sh*t on the Boba Fett character story in AOTC, but Abrams somehow managed to sh*t on the whole universe.
 
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An accurate and comprehensive assessment.


This guy nails it.

Episode 7: Blatant Episode 4 Remake with bits of Episodes 5 & 6 sprinkled in for flavor, masquerading as a new entry in the SWs universe.

Shame! Do you SWs fans who love this movie have any self respect, at all? Lol. :D
 
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An accurate and comprehensive assessment.


This guy nails it.

Episode 7: Blatant Episode 4 Remake with bits of Episodes 5 & 6 sprinkled in for flavor, masquerading as a new entry in the SWs universe.

Shame! Do you SWs fans who love this movie have any self respect, at all? Lol. :D

Apparently the galaxy has been in a depression and the Empire/FO create these public works projects. :D

The whole deathstar/star killer base thing is the worst part of the movie.
 
I'm inclined to be slightly more generous in my appraisal of TFA at this point.

I have had an opportunity to view the rather atrocious Jurassic World recently, and as a result, I can now more clearly discern the difference between plot holes and PLOT HOLES. JW is an epic mess. The most upsetting feature of which are the emoting, acting dinosaurs. The anthropomorphized raptors are just absolutely unacceptable and totally destroy the audience's ability to suspend disbelief.

Oddly enough, JW is very entertaining. The producers have utilized every last gigabit available to add detail to the dinosaurs. The opening scene in particular, features alarmingly detailed and realistic CG. Yes, it still looks like CG but the level of detail has reached a new level.

I had criticized TFA for it's wooden acting and recycled script, but JW takes these defects to an entirely new level.

I had wanted to rate TFA as low as 7.5/10 after writing and reading this onslaught of criticisms. After the rather sobering viewing of JW, I believe a 8/10 rating for TFA is fair.
 
This guy nails it.

Episode 7: Blatant Episode 4 Remake with bits of Episodes 5 & 6 sprinkled in for flavor, masquerading as a new entry in the SWs universe.

Shame! Do you SWs fans who love this movie have any self respect, at all? Lol. :D
Yes we do...
The Force Awakens is tied with Attack of the Clones for 2nd worst Star Wars film (Phantom Menace comes in last place)

Horrible film. A carload of us drove away after the movie, being not sure what exactly we had just watched, if not simply an extended parody trailer for a future movie. Just lame. Lack of creativity. Overly pandering in every direction. I thought Lucas had done a good job of making me never want to watch a Star Wars film again after he sh*t on the Boba Fett character story in AOTC, but Abrams somehow managed to sh*t on the whole universe.

Haha no...BTW I think some of you don't understand what a reboot means.
 
An accurate and comprehensive assessment.


Some people really need to get out a little more.

Does it feel like a Star Wars film? Yes. Is the story similar to the original trilogy? Yes. Is it better than the prequels? Yes.

Roll on EP VII...
 
Does it feel like a Star Wars film? Yes. Is the story similar to the original trilogy? Yes. Is it better than the prequels? Yes.

Roll on EP VII...

I'm happy that you found The Force Awakens to be a satisfactory film.

But why do you feel the need to belittle those that don't agree with your opinion?

Some people really need to get out a little more.
 
Does anyone here really believe that wasn't a planned marketing maneuver? Purposely leave the Rey character out of toy lines, and then let J.J. get to make a big deal about how important her character actually is to the entire series. Sell exponentially more Rey toys, all while reinforcing the nu-StarWars® brand. Profit. Seems like the obvious smart promotional play to me.
 
Yes we do...


Haha no...BTW I think some of you don't understand what a reboot means.

For accuracy and honesty, any title except Episode 7 should have been used. If it helps to understand the point, substitute Chapter for Episode, then hold the director to the same standard as a book author. :)
 
Reboot. Pah!
Remake. Pah!

Humbug, I think of it as a remix - regardless the name. :D
And I confess in not having a problem with that per se (although one can easily see that Hollywood in general drowns in sequels, prequels, se-prequels or whatever they come up with to recycle and rehash old stuff that sells well and is already established.

Comparing SW to the other big hitters of the big screen makes it look like a true masterpiece as Jurrasic World, Avengers 2 and Fast and Furious 7 (haven't seen it, didn't watch a single entry but have a firm opinion on those) are utter trash in my opinion. The fact that these flics generate billions of dollars is just sad. Period.

That said, as a remix it isn't nearly as compelling as the originals were/are that it borrows from and brings nothing new to the table except flashy, up to date graphics. One strong point of the OT was the depiction of interpersonal relationships - this is something that JJ ABrams clearly isn't capable of reproducing (let alone re-inventing).
 
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