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i'm in the same boat. i love my 1st Gen iPhone and don't want to move on unless there is a real reason to. while Jobs is grading the next gen iPhone, i'll grade the previous gens based on year they came out with the OS it ran:

iPhone 2G OS 1.0 (6/2007): A
iPhone 3G OS 2.0 (7/2008): A+
iPhone 3G OS 3.0 (6/2009): C+

anyone else agree/disagree?


Completely disagree. Had the original iPhone. Now use the 3gs. It is much better. How can you say the original was better when it had more limited software and was noticeably slower? When I go back and use the original now it seems clunky and slow.
 
Thats what it needs, consistency. I know that if a window doesnt require itself from being stretched to full screen it only maximizes as much as it needs to, but seriously, i need organization, I *HATE* having a mess of windows all at various sizes at various positions. Its clutter and an eyesore, especially for someone who uses his mac for WORK.

It should be the same function for all applications across the board:

click once to maximize to FULL screen and align it as full screen. click second time to go back to previous state. Microsoft got it right, why cant Apple?

Anyway, for now I use Right Zoom, its a small background application that fixes the problem for most applications:

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/30591

Cheer up, in the iPad, all apps are always maximized :mad:
 
My personal view about it:

--Flash--
This "thing" has been the subject of so many discussions. Major problem I see is that it is THE major instability plugin for every browser around. Ok, good programers, good program. You're right there. But try to have your PHONE crashing or halting because of a flash and you'll understand why they are not supporting it.

Whenever there is a risk to change the main focus of the device, they will NOT implement it. In a computer you can kill the browser, in an iPhone or even the iPad, I wonder how many people know how to force an application to quit.

Some said already: it is a proprietary technology. Adobe does what it wants with it, and that would mean saying they should do whatever they want with the internet and pricing for you to write to it.

Flash is a great thing, but I particularly hate it, and would like to see it gone. I already use ClickToFlash and it is awesome to be able to browse the web without that ****. If you want to play Farmville great, but honestly, you don't need flash to use the web.

I access the web for information, not to watch and wait the damn menu do all its twirls until I can finally access what I want.

--Blue-Ray--
Agreed on the "messy" part. The day I stopped buying blue-rays was when I bought one and couldn't use it. Apparently, my Samsung player is not "ready" for the messy java menu implementation on that particular disc.

Oh, did I forget to mention that some discs take about 2 minutes to load?

Blue-Ray was the best way to put a good technology to waste. The media is great, the software and the way they decided to make the menus and all the "piracy protection" crap is where it is messy. I think this was the best way to punish those who actually buy and try to use the players and discs, because the pirates, well, they are enjoying their "downloaded" movies without that crap.

One last thing on this, if you need blue-rays to back up stuff, great! However, sorry to say, a very, VERY small portion of the market wont justify the sales lost due to the price increase for the blue-ray drive.

--iPad--
When I watched the movie about it, I felt in love for it. Not because its greatness in this or that. Screw it. But because for the first time in YEARS, I can have a small device, capable of connecting with keyboards if needed to compose a huge message or text, and I would be able to have my multi-media content with me.

Have you ever tried to watch a movie while on a plane? Unless you go business, sorry to say, it is a mess. Even with a 13" laptop, you can't do it well.

Then when I arrive, I can just take my bluetooth keyboard and start typing a huge mail. I will probably use that thing more than any other device, because I want my DATA with me, contacts, calendar, mail, and when not going business, I can enjoy a movie on a great screen.

Five years ago I had a 17" laptop. Two years ago, it became a 13", and now, it will be an iPad. Games? Sure, that is why I have an iMac 27" i7.

Only thing I miss on the iPad would be a GPS support, because using it as a navigator would be terrific! But maybe I'm missing the target, and that would be better for the iPhone anyway.

--Conclusion--
Flash? Oh yeah, sure, if you want to delay your access to information, have your devices unstable and risking to pay absurds amounts of money for proprietary technology.

Blue-Ray? As a media, great, as a movie container for players, a disgrace. Most HD movies would fit in a DVD, and they just put it on Blue-Ray to avoid "piracy". Grats! You're scaring your customers!

Thought of the day: I wonder when people will complain they can't encode an HD movie with AC3 on their phones.
 
right, this have to be kept in consideration for real evaluation, but we still need some concrete data.

More Windows or Mac users in adobe sells?

Nowadays and since CS3 probably Windows users. Historically, MOST DEFINITELY Mac users.

Photoshop and DTP were the killer apps for Macs.

As someone said, Adobe need to remember who made them the company they are. That was another company that begins with the letter A.
 
Flash runs apps, circumventing the app store.

That's a bit of a stretch in my opinion and here's why:

1) 100% of these Flash apps that are out on the internet are designed to work on a keyboard and a mouse. So they wouldn't even work properly on an iPhone unless they are redesigned and made to be touch sensitive. So even if Flash was on the iPhone that silly little web game would most likely not work properly to begin with. Then you would have the problems that sometimes users navigate to a flash app that works and sometimes they navigate to one that doesn't work, which makes for an awful user experience in my good.

2) As for the notion that it would cut into the App Store. Personally I don't buy that for one minute. The App Store and that fact that it's one interface is exactly why these small developers have been so successful in selling apps for the iPhone. You remove that store front and all these 2-3 companies making apps and games would be lost and buried by the bigger guys like Electronic Arts that have a name and reputation. The App Store has it's problems but in my opinion it's given small developers the chance of a lifetime.
 
LOL!

Three days now i am writing in 4 different posts saying that Apple did get the message of the epic failure and it seems that i am write.

I will continue to be against iPad because this is what it deserves.

Please dont believe the paid rumors, or the paid-by-Apple articles of NY Times, Engadget, Gizmodo etc. For instance, did they have right on what they had written in their articles until the presentation of the iPad? NO!!!

So i do not believe them until now! NOthing its going to change for a long time. Until i see, i do not believe anything! Got that Apple? In Greece we have a phrase saying: From what you hear you must believe nothing, and of those you see the half!

So thanks for the nice sad story, but what the heck, it seems that antagonism from Adobe make Apple run. Who are the lazy anyway?
 
60-90 days, not just 12 months

Dear Mr. Jobs! I propose something. If that Flash is so bad that Macs keep crashing, then you either fix your Macs or sit down with Adobe and help them fix their software. Trust me, I can decide, whether I, as a potential iPad user want to use Flash or not. And I DO! If I don't, I will just switch it off. Give me that option, swallow your incredibly stupid and consumer-stabbing pride and get that BLOODY Flash on that freaking giant iPod Touch of yours. While you are at it, put a camera on it as well, the thing is obviously a joke without a function that these days even the most basic mobile devices have. So far, this launch is not going really well.

60-90 days until shipping and the thing is already dated and intentionally limited? God, you really need to get out more and see what's out of Cupertino.









Tech moves fast in the mobile industry and a 12 month refresh can leave them behind.


Three months until the launch is long time in mobile internet. Without camera, Flash and multitasking, this iPad will leave Apple behind. The 12 months update cycle will be just a further kick.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

Love his style!!! Saying exactly what it is
 
I disgaree, it's bastardized and makes no sense as it's a double negative. Someone once said "don't correct people as it lets one know the uneducated from the educated"

bottom line, you're right i just effing hate it

"Inconsistent" is a word isn't it?

My god could you be more anal about it? what's next when britney spears calls an article of clothing "hot" you will correct saying she actually means room temperature? Or correct Randy Jackson when he says "1 million percent yes" that he can't possibly go higher than 100%?

I'm sure if you just step back you'll see he's just saying its going to be excellent... regardless of how he phrased it i think everyone gets the point.
 
For 2 years Eric Schmidt sat on the board of directors and all the while he was taking notes on the iPhone and upcoming improvements. He would then send that info to the Google labs teams and they sat in there and tried to duplicate the functions and ascetics of it. While he was stealing info from Apple he was kissing Job's ass.

It's time Schmidt got what's coming to him.

Can you list EXACTLY what OS functions and asthetics that Google stole with Android OS?

Was it the widget system? The notification slidedown menu? The application drawer? SMS app? Phone dialer?

As someone who has owned an iPhone and Android OS devices I can't see anything that is vastly similar to iPhone OS.

I've asked you before with no reply. Hopefully you will respond this time.
 
That's a bit of a stretch in my opinion and here's why:

1) 100% of these Flash apps that are out on the internet are designed to work on a keyboard and a mouse. So they wouldn't even work properly on an iPhone unless they are redesigned and made to be touch sensitive.

2) As for the notion that it would cut into the App Store. Personally I don't buy that for one minute. The App Store and that fact that it's one interface is exactly why these small

Flash would allow unregulated apps to run on the phone - and that is why it is not supported.

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Apple would no longer have a dictatorship
Part of me -- well, most of me -- thinks Apple is purposely keeping Flash off of the iPhone. Flash isn't just a simple plug-in for playing animations -- it's a full-fledged application environment. If Flash were allowed on the iPhone, you could circumvent the App Store to sell your videos and games. The App Store would be made redundant. Why on Earth would Apple ever cede its chokehold on iPhone commerce to Adobe?


http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadgets/article/2009-06/curious-case-flash-iphone

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Apps could be redesigned and distributed for free.

Perhaps even real apps would be pirated and given away free on flash sites.

To ensure developer loyalty - its apples responsibility to protect the investment made by app developers.
 
This is what competition is about, and I absolutely like it. Both companies are capable to develop astonishing products, and beating the other will only make them better.

There are a lot of things that Apple could improve, and it's time do so. I love Jobs' honesty and I'm really looking forward to see some great improvements and innovations soon.
 
Yeah, backing up is the only reason why i'd want one right now, but other than that, i dont see the point in spending 200 dollars on the burner, and then like 10-20 bucks per disc. 50gb is a lot of data. I'd probably make two copies of each disc *just in case* its like putting all your eggs into one basket. To lose 50gb of stuff from a single disc would probably make me cry.

Thanks in advance about the search! :)

Optical media really isn't a good way of backing up anyway, and a jump from 5GB to 40GB isn't really keeping up anyway (it's very slow, and fairly unreliable). Getting something like a Drobo, or an external hard drive enclosure to use SATA drives effectively as 'removable drives' seems like a much better solution. Having a bunch of 500GB SATA drives probably would be far cheaper than the same capacity of BluRay, and I suspect smaller capacities are even cheaper. OK, not very practical for posting to other people - but nowadays most things can be sent over the internet.

DVD has long since been inadequate for backup capacity (a few years ago I was backing up onto dozens and dozens of DVD's and it took hours) that I've moved on and reaped the benefits of avoiding optical media for backup. I wont be going back just because they've upped the capacity.
 
Nowadays and since CS3 probably Windows users. Historically, MOST DEFINITELY Mac users.

Photoshop and DTP were the killer apps for Macs.

As someone said, Adobe need to remember who made them the company they are. That was another company that begins with the letter A.

True. But you have to remember that back in the day Mac was superior to PC in hardware and software. PCs have closed the gap today and Mac Pros do not offer anything that is so much drastically better performance and stability wise. Adobe sees the shift form OS X to Windows when it comes to their CS software and they are just acknowledging it.

What I fear is that there is some bad blood between Apple and Adobe and that is why we don't see better support from Adobe. Maybe they are ditching Apple for Windows but maybe Apple is putting restrictions on Adobe, who knows, but one thing is for sure Apple does not have competing software to pair Adobe and they will never have. CS5 might give Windows even more advantage, we'll see.

There is a quite discussion in Mac Pro section about Apple leaving professional market in the dust for more consumer oriented. It hurts but that is the reality.
 
Looking forward to the notebook mac refresh, I'm really surprised they don't have Core i3/i5/i7 options right now. Hopefully it will be soon!
 
Nowadays and since CS3 probably Windows users. Historically, MOST DEFINITELY Mac users.

As someone said, Adobe need to remember who made them the company they are. That was another company that begins with the letter A.

Yes, and Apple should remember what sort of consumers made it to what it is today. Sadly, many of us agree that creatives are regularly kicked in the back by Apple.


True. But you have to remember that back in the day Mac was superior to PC in hardware and software. PCs have closed the gap today and Mac Pros do not offer anything that is so much drastically better performance and stability wise. Adobe sees the shift form OS X to Windows when it comes to their CS software and they are just acknowledging it.

There is a quite discussion in Mac Pro section about Apple leaving professional market in the dust for more consumer oriented. It hurts but that is the reality.

Did Jobs really called them lazy? Anyway, Jobs probably upset more people than anybody else in IT. One day, Apple customers have to start paying the price for this megalomaniac emperor.
 
Would like to see new a new MBP model with built-in 3G and a data plan comparable to the iPad 3G data plan. Wider 16:10 screen, glass keyboard keys would be great. I hate these plastic keys as they get shiny from prolonged use. This makes the keys look filthy over time.
 
Here we go again... Some dude thinking that it is all about the "marketshare", about "numbers of units" (which is changing in Apple's favor as we speak). I guess you read spec lists and listen to the pundits, too?

It is not about numbers of units and "market share". Have you read the other statistics? That miniscule percentage of mobile devices that Apple accounts for? They account for 50+ percent of ALL mobile browsing, the world over. In some countries, like UK I think, Apple devices account for some 70% of mobile browsing!

It is about usability and quality of experience. It is Apple that is single-handedly accounting for people really wanting to use a mobile device to browse the web in the first place. Users of devices made by other manufacturers don't really bother any more unless they have to; they won't be browsing the web for fun -- which is when Flash is more likely encountered.

The increasing and disproportionately large use of Apple mobile devices to browse the web, for people who do so with any regularity or to any significant degree, shows Apple's increasing "marketshare" of "the act of browsing" if not actual instances of the Apple browser itself. This is certainly is significant to website producers, regardless that record numbers of Apple desktops and laptops are being sold each quarter.

Keep up your career as a follower of the numbers and the pundits. This is exactly why Nokia et al are being left in the dust. 1.7 Billion schmillion. Let's count the billions of web pages served and see what percentage of them are served to Apple or Firefox browsers -- you might be surprised.

Did you even read the post?
If it comes to "the internet" of course it is gonna be about the number of page visits from a certain platform. If that number is high the webmaster better makes sure his website works fine .. otherwise, he will not bother.
So yes there will be some pages that will change their appearance due to many mobile safari visits .. however thinking that Apple is singlehandedly killing flash is ridiculous given the market share it has.

And last time I checked flash worked fine on my mac and steve can not tell me what to do here .. so I don't quite get the point of mentioning the desktop/laptop variants.
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I could name one. Multitasking.

It does the one multitasking function 90% of people actually use - iTunes keeps playing when you browse or play apps, and even better - it knows when to STOP multitasking - ie when the phone rings.

Can't think of another multitasking situation I really need....
 
Honestly I don't know why people want blu-ray in their notebooks so badly

With video streaming and downloading what is the point?
Firstly video streaming and downloading are at inferior resolutions with phenomenal amounts of compression, even a DVD looks better any day - let alone the massive jump in detail from Blu-ray (sure there are those that whinge it is little different, but they are the same people that whinged DVD was no better than VHS back in the late nineties). Plus what about extras and commentaries?

Secondly many of us now live in a HD world - at least half our collections now Blu-ray, blu-ray players, HD televisions, HD displays, and HD computers (anything other than Apple that is). We've always been able to play our DVDs on anything we wished (including Apple products by paying a premium for a build-to-order SuperDrive), but now we're in a situation where half our movie collection's can't be played on our Macs anymore... despite them being the bees knees of audio and video?!

Thirdly for years now Apple have provided us the tools to create high definition videos and productions with Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro, yet refuse to provide a way to actually publish said works (aside from their HD on DVD approach, which of course works on nothing but Macs).

Apple should renamed their SuperDrive, since it is actually a very very very SupersededDrive - just call it a DVD Drive. Then provide a BTO for a Blu-ray drive - charge whatever premium they like but the option should at least be there. We tolerate a lot of Apple, or Steve Jobs, preferences shoved down our throats - they have their own tastes, opinions, and directions and we live with that. But cutting us off from a technology that is taking off far quicker than even DVD, which itself formerly had earned the crown of fastest growing consumer electronics product in history, is becoming painfully ridiculous...

Especially when Steve Job's original excuse was licensing issues - yet now that the BDA have sorted out those licensing issues the excuse has become software issues... pull the other one, more like let's stretch it out as long as possible in the hopes that iTunes might dominate...
 
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