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Steve Jobs at Apple Town Hall Meeting, Google, Adobe, Next iPhone, 2010 Macs and More

Absolutely correct.

puffnstuff said:
Honestly I don't know why people want blu-ray in their notebooks so badly

With video streaming and downloading what is the point?

I rather they just remove the optical and use the space for something else
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I think you're absolutely correct. I hardly ever use my super drive for anything! I'd rather have an external super drive and have the extra space in my macbook be filled with more hard disk space or something..
 
tatonka said:
No .. it is not about having them open at the same time .. it is about being able to switch forth and back quickly .. preserving the current state and with out having to go through a hole boot up process again.
I am listening to a podcast while playing NFS. I want to scrub forward through the advertisments. That means leave the game, fire up the ipod app, find the right spot .. then the games lost its state and has to restart (including the current progress being lost).
Or how about listening to Pandora/Last.fm instead of the ipod app? How about having the navigation app continuing on to catch what I do while changing the taking a call. How about having a messenger running or a skype call while checking the internet?

There are many ways multi tasking would be useful and I have missed more than once. Again .. how about giving the choice to me .. if i want to drain my battery why not let me do it? I am old enough, I don't want or need daddy to look after me anymore.

T.
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This isn't Apple being selfish, it's Apple looking out for the best user experience in every application.

iPhone applications have to run in available memory - they're sandboxed from the OS, and there is no scratch disk.

This is basically a "you can't have your cake and eat it" situation. You can either have the best applications for this form factor, or you can have the multi-tasking how-long-till-everything-crawls-then-stops instability that Symbian users have been experiencing for years.

Personally I'd rather have good apps that are able to use all the available memory without worrying about cannibalisation. If you need multi-tasking, then sure, you need something else.
 
Easy buddy. Seems like someone's CEO is on the offensive after his new product has gotten torched. How about we don't build up everyone's expectations again? Just do what you normally do. Stay hush hush and then deliver a good product. It's worked in the past and should work again.
 
jonathanb said:
Great way to back up files, if nothing else.
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You could buy 2 hard drives for the cost of the player and media, so I'd hope no-one would use it for that purpose alone.

As for iPhone 4 or HD or 4G or whatever the hell it's going to be called, I've got £300 ready and waiting, now that you've said it'll be A+ I'm expecting a lot now.
 
levitynyc said:
Jobs is right about flash. Whenever a browser crashes on my Macbook, its because of flash.

Steve was surprisingly open here. I'm surprised. I can't wait to see what they have up their sleeve this year.

My favorite thing about the Droids is that users always claim they are either as good, or better than an iPhone, and can't name one thing it does better.
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Everything SJ said is DAMN CORRECT and I fully endorse his views...good to see him pissed off again.

- Blu-Ray is a ridiculous mess with little marginal value attached and hasn't deserved a place in the Mac product line yet;
- the iPhone and the iPad will blow the competition out of the water;
- can't wait to see the new Macs, especially portables;
- and Flash needs no comments. For those defending that CPU-hungry crap: "Welcome to the 90s".

FLASH IS DEAD. AND SO IS ADOBE.
 
Sounds like sour grapes on Apple's part:

"On Google: We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says."

Why wait - Apple should implement its own BluRay software - video playback and writing. I have a BR camcorder - but cannot create HD movies.
 
puffnstuff said:
Honestly I don't know why people want blu-ray in their notebooks so badly

With video streaming and downloading what is the point?

I rather they just remove the optical and use the space for something else
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Pure geekdom is why. I enjoy BluRay greatly, but not on my 13" or even 20" screens. Utterly pointless.

I occasionally rent a BluRay disc and watch it from my PS3->HDTV. It doesn't make any sense to watch BluRay over another much much much more convenient format, on a Mac.

I'm glad he openly stated that BluRay is not coming to Macs this year. Very happy.
 
HaXoR7Om said:
Lol. Apple may have paid Xerox to learn about their GUI they had developed but theres no doubt that Apple took advantage and made millions in the long run for the thousands that Xerox got paid. It was a very poor management decision on Xerox's side and the poor developers got screwed over after making something they never got full credit for. The developers knew this would be disastrous but they had no say in it.
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BS, Sir.

Apple legally obtained the information and Xerox's management made bad decisions due to narrow-minded strategies...why the hell should Apple be blamed for that? Microsoft, on the other hand...
 
puffnstuff said:
Honestly I don't know why people want blu-ray in their notebooks so badly

With video streaming and downloading what is the point?
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Because you can't stream whilst your on the move.
Because downloading movies will swallow most, if not all of the average ADSL accounts monthly bandwidth allowance
Because downloaded movies are nowhere near the quality of blu-ray
Because people want to buy a movie ONCE and use it on their laptop AND their TV
Because I want to backup 50gb onto optical media in one go
Because I want to author BR masters on the go.
Need any more reasons?

Job's latest 'software is a mess' argument is even more lame than the 'world of hurt' argument.

It's pathetic.

HTML5 may be replacing flash eventually. But not yet. Not now. A friend of mine was just employed as a flash developer. Flash is still huge, and will continue to be for some time to come. The web, now, today, uses a HUGE amount of flash. Pretending you have the 'best' web experience without it, is just lying.
 
pmz said:
Pure geekdom is why. I enjoy BluRay greatly, but not on my 13" or even 20" screens. Utterly pointless.

I occasionally rent a BluRay disc and watch it from my PS3->HDTV. It doesn't make any sense to watch BluRay over another much much much more convenient format, on a Mac.

I'm glad he openly stated that BluRay is not coming to Macs this year. Very happy.
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Depends if you only have a copy of a film on Bluray or not.
 
BRLawyer said:
Everything SJ said is DAMN CORRECT and I fully endorse his views...good to see him pissed off again.

- Blu-Ray is a ridiculous mess with little marginal value attached and hasn't deserved a place in the Mac product line yet;
- the iPhone and the iPad will blow the competition out of the water;
- can't wait to see the new Macs, especially portables;
- and Flash needs no comments. For those defending that CPU-hungry crap: "Welcome to the 90s".

FLASH IS DEAD. AND SO IS ADOBE.
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Not to mention the A+ iPhone update coming. Can't believe he said that. There's gonna a flurry around here of people asking, "How would YOU rate the new iPhone???!"

LOL Apple and your insane ability to make buyers interested in you.

When Phil Schiller showed us the Apple Store in Jan 2009 and said, "can you imagine any other logo up there?"

No I really can't.
 
BRLawyer said:
Blu-Ray is a ridiculous mess with little marginal value attached and hasn't deserved a place in the Mac product line yet;
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I said this a couple pages back, and I'll say it again: Professionals need Blu-Ray support.

We don't all use our computers just for playing games and watching DVDs.

"Pro" means something in other industries, the we put up with the premium prices because we expect them to be representative of pro-level features.

To pay upwards of £3k for a high-end media workstation, and not have the option to write to the de-facto standard in high definition movie media is beyond a joke, it's an insult.

I'm with Steve on all his other points - don't forget this was an internal pep-talk, to gear up the staff for the next battle for hearts and minds in the expanding consumer arena; not a press release (as much as it was eventually destined to be). But even Steve Jobs sometimes misses the importance of his "other" customers needs (glossy screens vs matte on the last count), much to our chagrin.
 
djellison said:
Pretending you have the 'best' web experience without it, is just lying.
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Someone stating that they personally have the best web experience without it may be 100% truthful. And at the same time, 100% irrelevant to the issue of the supposed 'average' user that the iPad is aimed at, who may take a different view.
 
AAPLaday said:
Depends if you only have a copy of a film on Bluray or not.
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If I'm renting the BluRay disc, I don't "have" that either.

Same as if I downloaded a HiDef Rental from Apple.

Same as if I used my FIOS OnDemand to watch an HD movie.

Those are all options that don't involve keeping anything.
 
fat phil said:
I said this a couple pages back, and I'll say it again: Professionals need Blu-Ray support.

We don't all use our computers just for playing games and watching DVDs.

"Pro" means something in other industries, the we put up with the premium prices because we expect them to be representative of pro-level features.

To pay upwards of £3k for a high-end media workstation, and not have the option to write to the de-facto standard in high definition movie media is beyond a joke, it's an insult.

I'm with Steve on all his other points - don't forget this was an internal pep-talk, to gear up the staff for the next battle for hearts and minds in the expanding consumer arena. But even Steve Jobs sometimes misses the importance of his "other" customers needs (glossy screens vs matte on the last count), much to our chagrin.
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You sir are 100% right...

But you see, it is very hard to explain some simple facts to the masses in this forums who obviously don't need anything else but Fart Aps, HTML sites and Steve The Profit to satisfy all their digital dreams :D

Seriously - Apple is giving up on Pro market and moving ever further towards casual... With this fact in mind it wouldn't surprise me at all if I am forced to switch to Windows in few years time...

I truly wish to stick with Mac but things are getting increasingly difficult :(
 
pmz said:
If I'm renting the BluRay disc, I don't "have" that either.

Same as if I downloaded a HiDef Rental from Apple.

Same as if I used my FIOS OnDemand to watch an HD movie.

Those are all options that don't involve keeping anything.
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No but you have the option to view the Bluray on a tv and then you can view it again later on a laptop in bed. If you downloaded a HD film from Apple then your not getting Bluray quality anyway. Why be restricted on how you can view the film which you rented?
 
MacRumors said:
- Apple will deliver aggressive updates to iPhone that Android/Google won't be able to keep up with
- iPad is up there with the iPhone and Mac as the most important products Jobs has been a part of
- Next iPhone coming is an A+ update
- New Macs for 2010 are going to take Apple to the next level
- Blu-Ray software is a mess, and Apple will wait until sales really start to take off before implementing it.
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Brilliant news for the iPhone and iPad I say but sad on the Blu-ray front :( really having a 27" iMac with HD screen is useless without a way to play the HD content you own on Blu-ray (or HD DVD) on it, I don't care about Blu-ray on a laptop as personally I see no benefits other than for a data back-up :)

Oh well at least I have Digital Copies of the Blu-ray's to play back on my Mac's until Apple do something :)
 
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Adobe Flash CS5 (as well as Photoshop CS5) was presented on a Mac.

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