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Steve Jobs Defends New iTunes 10 Icon Against Criticism

macnerd93 said:
I'm sorry but if you knew about Apple icons you'd know they care ALOT about the icon detail even if its not visible all the time. If your using OS X 10.5 Leopard or 10.6 Snow Leopard go into Applications and view the text edit icon on its max size, that has the writing taken off Apple's famous 1997 Think Different commercial. The Apple pages icon is also impressive in the dock, the glass inkwell jar is transparent around the rim just like a real glass jar. I also love the Leopard icon for a PC on the network :D an UGLY CRT monitor with a BSOD on it LOL
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What are you talking about?

That little background detail is worthless on the icon the guy made, and it is not as good as the one apple has... I don't get your point.

Show me the Apple Icon that has a bunch of tiny faded out objects in it that can't be seen at all when in normal use.

Who cares what the text edit icon actually says? When it is in my dock I can tell it is a piece of paper with writing on it. You don't get the same effect with the icon in question here.
 
Used Reshacker to put the old icon back into itunese.exe 2 minutes after I installed it.
 
iSamurai said:
the stiffy disk is obsolete... yet it is almost the universal "save" icon
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Apple has not used the floppy disk icon as a save symbol for years in any of their apps. Apple uses a black dot in the red close button to indicate that a document has unsaved changes. It is mainly the usual laggards like MS which still use the floppy disk icon.

the ipod's scroll wheel is almost gone... yet it is used in all ipod icons even on the iphone
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The key word here is almost. And it has become so iconic that it is the generally accepted icon for MP3 players in all sort of contexts.

most cameras now are digital... yet camera phones still play that film rolling sound when a picture is taken...
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I take it you have not used a film camera for a very long time. The sound that camera phones (including the iPhone) simulate is the shutter opening and closing, not the film rewinding. And most better cameras (ie, those with decent-sized sensors) still have a mechanical shutter.
 
Apple didn't resurrect itself from near bankruptcy to a $200 billion company in 15 years by listening to someone that hates a logo and has one of the most recognizable logos on the planet.

In addition, that logo is the same one that's been used as the iTunes Store icon on the iPhone for the past 3 years.
 
I have to laugh at all of this. I just think it's funny how a new icon can cause so much controversy. To each his own. If you like it, keep it. If you don't, change it. Personally, I don't like it at all. Looks a little to "cartoony" for me, but that's my opinion. I kept my old icon that I've had forever...
 

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I like the new icon, I hate the interface look however. Especially the yellow playback bar (should have been upgraded a LONG time ago) and grayscale. Both look awful.

Not to mention the lack of a 64-bit Cocoa version. Pathetic.
 
Not a new logo. Look at iTunes for iOS.

Why didn't anyone freak out over the lack of the disk in the iOS version of iTunes? I see this logo update as just solidifying the cleaner direction they had already began to establish. But then again, this is the kind of thing I do for a living so I don't expect everyone to catch on.

Another level of detail is what is required to render the new icon can be created with css. Look at this example: http://graphicpeel.com/cssiosicons
 
Someone should print out these beautiful user icons (I vote for the purple one) and mail it DIRECTLY to Cupertino.

For a company that's known for elegant design and its design savvy users this iTunes 10 icon clearly dissapoints.
 
Wilson1313 said:
I, too, dislike the new styling. The new iTunes looks so dull with the b&w colors. Bring back the color! When listening to music, the light blue and white colors made all the different music easier to read. The icon I don't care about as much, although there was nothing wrong with the first one- don't fix what's not broken!
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I completely agree, the new itunes is absolutely hideous! the lack of the blue and white is the worst thing. I mean the ugly menu on the side would be fine if I still had my stripes. It's super ugly. They should've added support for the new mp3 players they made (which is why I assume they updated itunes) but leave the rest alone
icon is just meh, but eh interface is hideous
 
It's insulting

As a professional graphic designer who is not hired in the united states for various reasons. :mad:
To see this kind of amature logo/icon design by a major corporation .I continue to ask myself. How? The new Itunes logo is horrid and just like everything else now. Its bland, 'depth-less' and isn't even uniform with the other icons. The Mobile me icon sucks too. it's insulting when there are real artists out here who can do so much more. Yet, these companies (Apple, Hollywood, etc) continue to hire people who seem to lack vision or any kind of true abilty to put life into their creations. Everything is external and flat. Empty and lifeless. Its like they hire people who are 'qualified' but lack passion. I think the MBA's in upper managment are the same. Cardboard people who see life in terms of dollar signs.

Walter Disney at WED used artists who had absolutely no formal qualifications. The designer of the famous WDW/DL Monorail never went to engineering college nor had any training in it. However, he did have passion and motivation. Too bad people don't believe in that any more. Thus America suffers as a result. Too bad.
 
biggreydog said:
Steve is right. The old logo has a CD/DVD in it. How many people are still using them? It's not the future, it's yesterday.
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People who buy CD's are those who actually care about audio fidelity.

I'll be sticking with iTunes 9 for now due to the bland interface of the new one.
 
Is it me, or did they change the icon just so they could use it as the dot for the i in Ping?
 
I actually really like the icon, the thing I do not like at all about the new iTunes though is the black and white. The lack of color is really strange and boring in my opinion.
 
anthorumor said:
Someone should print out these beautiful user icons (I vote for the purple one) and mail it DIRECTLY to Cupertino.

For a company that's known for elegant design and its design savvy users this iTunes 10 icon clearly dissapoints.
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Why print? Save trees and e-mail Apple your self.

unixperience said:
I completely agree, the new itunes is absolutely hideous! the lack of the blue and white is the worst thing. I mean the ugly menu on the side would be fine if I still had my stripes. It's super ugly. They should've added support for the new mp3 players they made (which is why I assume they updated itunes) but leave the rest alone
icon is just meh, but eh interface is hideous
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Who says Apple is all about being blue? and stripes? I take you still use Cheetah or Panther? (or even OS 7/8 when ever the gray title bar was with the "stripes" and close/maxmize/mimimize square buttons on the left and right. As well as the window shade button)

and FYI, iTunes 10 DOES support the new ipods. The classic is the only one that is supported by 9
 
I myself find the icon hideous. Not that it matters to me, since my dock hides automatically. I'm a bit puzzled but that is all there is to it. All the whiners however, who complain about how their dock now looks different, are a bunch of spoiled brats and macfags who make me sick. This is my true opinion.
 
lighten up, people

the new icon looks cool. gotta love Uncle Steve's response; it was the most polite **** that i have ever seen. :D
 
ChrisGonzales90 said:
Why print? Save trees and e-mail Apple your self.
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For the same reason people still send out important invitations (wedding, etc) or other messages via mail.

It makes an impact, is personal and is something Steve (or someone in Apple at least) has to hold, manage and will stand out far greater than any digital medium (because looking at paper is effortless).

I'd do it, but I'll have to send it via international mail. Im sure someone who lives close by can easily do it for not even the price of one cup of coffee.
 
anthorumor said:
For the same reason people still send out important invitations (wedding, etc) or other messages via mail.

It makes an impact, is personal and is something Steve (or someone in Apple at least) has to hold, manage and will stand out far greater than any digital medium (because looking at paper is effortless).

I'd do it, but I'll have to send it via international mail. Im sure someone who lives close by can easily do it for not even the price of one cup of coffee.
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comparing weeding invites to general feedback on a tech product is worlds apart. Plus pay what? 42 cents?

if someone lives close by I'm sure they can just walk on to the campus them self. (if they can get past securty)

But most people will just go though the normal means and thats using the feedback site.

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What about having an icon of a generic iOS device home screen? Nothing in detial, just something that will let us know of iOS device. Yes, theres the shuffle and classic, but Apples main use for iTunes is the new iOS devices.
 
shanmugam said:
at least we are not complaining about stupid iPod nano :D
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Yet, my friend. Yet is the magical word. We're all busy complaining about the iTunes logo we didn't even had a chance to mail uncle Steve about the iPod Nano shortcomings...

Good thing tomorrow is another day. Does he read his mail on Saturday?
 
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