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Steve Jobs Defends New iTunes 10 Icon Against Criticism
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Yep, this would be in line with the level of quality of Aperture's design:
Oh well, one supposes that we need some way of distinguishing the free apps from the 'paid for' apps.
I replaced all my icons, and honestly, of all the Application icons I have, Adobe CS5 icons are the WORST (which is rather ironic)
I totally agree with you on the part of vertical stoplight buttons. They are hideous and too tiny.I don't consider the zoom buttons to be part of the UI, they are part of the chrome. Both close and minimise buttons are superfluous in single-window apps (as is the titlebar), quitting and hiding the app do exactly the same thing as closing or minimising.
And the zoom button is not often used, and if you use it often enough, you'll probably have a keyboard shortcut mapped to it anyway.
But I discovered another layout oddity. Notice the gap between the checkboxes and the actual podcasts? And why are the checkboxes further left than the disclosure triangles. That looks weird.
(My theory is that the new layout has been designed mainly with the checkboxes hidden and that they have been added again as an afterthought.)
But for the hiding part... I can't agree. I like the ability to hide an app so it doesn't take up a space in the Dock while keeping the app running. I use it everyday to clean up my desktop mess. It's a personal opinion, however Hide is really a big feature I like over Windows.
[above] that's more like it.
...could't care less...I'm such a stickler for that kind of thing, and what do you know...?
You could? How much less could you care?
...could't care less...I'm such a stickler for that kind of thing, and what do you know...?
Worst icon
Worst icon ever. Apple display a remarkable lack of taste sometimes (garage band faux-wooden surround, hideous iPhone notes styling, etc), and this icon is the latest example - it replaces a subtle hint at the origins of the program (ripping CDs) with a garish blended mess. Really offensive.
My pet theory is that Jobs is good at recognising good design but not a good designer - sometimes he tries to get involved himself and ruins products in the process, but no one dares object. Can't think of any explanation for the rare design mistakes Apple make other than meddling from people who should know better - no designer with any self-respect would produce a logo like that.
Worst icon ever. Apple display a remarkable lack of taste sometimes (garage band faux-wooden surround, hideous iPhone notes styling, etc), and this icon is the latest example - it replaces a subtle hint at the origins of the program (ripping CDs) with a garish blended mess. Really offensive.
My pet theory is that Jobs is good at recognising good design but not a good designer - sometimes he tries to get involved himself and ruins products in the process, but no one dares object. Can't think of any explanation for the rare design mistakes Apple make other than meddling from people who should know better - no designer with any self-respect would produce a logo like that.
Burn to disc
I'm not reading all 24 pages to see if this was posted but...
In addition to removing the CD from the icon, the Burn To Disc button has vanished from the iTunes interface. I still burn to disc, I just have to do it via the menubar now.
I'm not reading all 24 pages to see if this was posted but...
In addition to removing the CD from the icon, the Burn To Disc button has vanished from the iTunes interface. I still burn to disc, I just have to do it via the menubar now.
Think the new iTunes logo is hard to look at?
How about this x-ray of an abused child's broken limb?
I realize we are all on a Mac-centric website, but for crying out loud, given everything terrible that exists in the world today, perhaps we should all exude a little perspective and be grateful that we are fortunate enough to bitch about freaking digital artwork.
I'm not sure why this is necessary... Just because people choose to talk about UI design doesn't mean we need all these value judgments. This thread is just recreation. I like talking about design. That doesn't mean I don't care about serious things as well. I mean, you don't go out on the jogging trail or the golf course and shout value judgments at people while they're enjoying some free time. So why do it here?
I can see your point and I have reflected on those things too such as the name iTunes, but I think the name iTunes is to a much greater extent the branding that people associate with. I was fine with the old icon, I can understand the arguments for both sides of the CD but I think the new icon is sexy too.
Now I'm not sure how I feel about the traffic lights being vertical. I don't think it is bad really, but I'm not use to it and it is not consistent with the rest of the OS at all. I find it interesting because we can often look to iTunes as a precursor of what is coming as far as design for the rest of the OS. I like the refinements they made with icons like the iPad instead of buttons, those are much cleaner. The blue mono colored icons I am up in the air about but it also seems more iOS like. Whatever happens, if Apple wants to make the traffic lights vertical, then they need to make it consistent in Mac OS X 10.7. I'm not sure how well that would work though, for example in copy dialogue pop ups the is just a straight horizontal menu bar on the window. How are they going to change the traffic lights to vertical on those?
I guess we will see what happens, but I can definitely see more iOS styling coming to Mac OS X in 10.7, whenever that is! I think Apple's top priority right now is the iOS platform.
NO KIDDING! My goodness I don't even wanna know how many emails a day Steve gets!
And yet he responds. It is very nice of him!Is it just me, or does the music-note look like it's not centered in the blue circle?
Looks to me like it's more towards the bottom-left corner.
It is fine, but the Ping icon in the iTunes app on iOS is cut off on the right side and it is bugging me!
Looks kind of like an updated version of the Columbia Magic Notes logo - which dates back even further than CDs
no. People really shouldnt get so worked up over a silly what? bitmap image on the screen? Plus the icon does what its susposto do. and thats launch the program. Not stand there and all all pretty.
So your saying people don't have any talent unless they go to a 4 year school? Thats kind of rude.
You need to take reading comprehension 101.
& I agree with him. It looks like it was made by someone with little/no experience.
Still, the border is too thick and the note too small to stand out IMO. I like the iOS app-esque one with lens flare that someone posted before...
You don't need experience to go to school. Remember a lot of people have self taught them selves and they still go to learn more as well as get a degree.
An icon means a whole lot than just launching the program. It represents a brand, a product. If the icon was just a dot would you accept it?
Try not to change the topic.
Sure why not? Do I care what the icon looks like? I mean what if Apple kept the CD but changed the color? Perhaps went back to the old pink, purple or even green. Would you throw a fit then?
and I'm just responding to the guy talking above about experience/no experience. Read a little of the posts before making such comments.
Sure why not? Do I care what the icon looks like? I mean what if Apple kept the CD but changed the color? Perhaps went back to the old pink, purple or even green. Would you throw a fit then?
and I'm just responding to the guy talking above about experience/no experience. Read a little of the posts before making such comments.
another reference to the icons
http://theappleblog.com/2009/07/21/a-closer-look-at-apples-icons/
I agree with Jobs.
What an epic way to signal Digital overtaking overpriced packaging!
'Life is a series of transformations'
What an epic way to signal Digital overtaking overpriced packaging!
'Life is a series of transformations'
The new icon is over saturated and totally out of place when compared with rest of the OS X 10.6 icons. Its ´80 all over again... Can you say too colorful and child like with lack of finesse.