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Steve Jobs Defends New iTunes 10 Icon Against Criticism

Ok, since people seem to only want to criticize the people who came up with the original icons, and many of the other items we all know and love...

I'll be the first to say in this thread...

He freaking responded in the middle of everything else that was going on. That's pretty incredible.
 
AceFernalld said:
Is it just me, or does the music-note look like it's not centered in the blue circle? :confused:

Looks to me like it's more towards the bottom-left corner.
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I agree, it does not look balanced. Counting pixels, it might be right but it does not look good.
 
If they were going to go a new route, why not use something that matches the iOS Music or iTunes Store icon? The new icon reminds me of the Windows Vista logo.
 

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The best iTunes icon of all was the one before iTunes 7 - it had green note and more subtle CD. I still miss it…

Talking about this:

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TitoC said:
As a graphic designer for over 20 years. I concur: that new logo sucks! It looks like someone created that in about 2 minutes. Let see, "Take generic 2 tone aqua color circle, add musical note . . . . and . . . . there you go! Instant logo. Can I interest you in 20 animated gifs for your web site now?"

I much rather prefer something like this:
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I think that's the issue most people have, the new icon seems so... simple, just like the old one. And the story about digital downloads surpassing cd/dvd sales seems way too shallow to justify the update.

In the end, it's just an icon. But I must say, your take is very impressive. I like it!
 
I, for one, don't understand why people are complaining about the icon when there are perfecly good things to be complaining about INSIDE iTunes.

The icon is is fine. But removing all color from the side-bar is not fine. It seriously makes iTunes harder to use. Why is THAT not something generating front page stories on Macrumors?

An icon? Phhht. Big deal. Anyway, you're going to hurt his feelings.
 
New icon

The new itunes icon looks pretty awful to me. When displayed larger like in this MacRumors post, it looks OK...but shrink it down to dock size or dotting the "i" in Ping (good god, that's a whole other design fail) it looks amateurish. Primarily its the border that does it...it's so thin that it gets very weak at small sizes and makes the music note looked cramped...overall giving it a claustrophobic feel. The only way I got it to look OK on my dock was by placing it next to the Dashboard icon which has a similar border, but next to iPhoto, iCal, etc. it just looks out of place. I know it's just an icon, but as a graphic designer I cannot ignore the aesthetics of things.
 
So they moved on beyond CD's. They moved on beyond just music. Why wouldn't the logo demonstrate a wider array of media?
 
jaw04005 said:
If they were going to go a new route, why not use something that matches the iOS Music or iTunes Store icon? The new icon reminds me of the Windows Vista logo.
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Yes, because an orange square is sooooo much better than a blue circle. :rolleyes:
 
TitoC said:
I much rather prefer something like this:

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P.S. This icon was designed by Chris Carlozzi. He is a link to it.
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Even when the dock is at maximum size, your icon is about 10 times the actual size of an icon. Shrink it down to normal size, and your little icons within the icon become virtually invisible and completely pointless.

My take on the new icon? I can't think of anything I care less about. I only checked in to watch people complain just for the sake of complaining.
 
WickedRabbit said:
The fact that people are actually complaining about a logo is just sad to me. It's a freaking logo. I guess this really proves that some of those Mac user stereotypes about people caring more about 'pretty' than 'function' is actually pretty accurate.

Move along people.
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It's not a logo. It's an icon, and the reason people are complaining about it is because it looks very amateurish and not Apple's style at all. If you were to look at this icon for the first time ever and not know it was for iTunes, would you guess it was from Apple?
 
While I don't really like the vertical orientation of the close/min/max buttons, I believe they of did it more out of necessity than because they plan on changing that to the OSX standard. One of the biggest design changes in iTunes 10, for me, was the removal of the title bar of the app. I like the change, since the song name in the LCD screen sort of becomes the title of the app, and most apps do change the name of the window to reflect what is currently going on in the window.

Since the user still needs a place to click and drag the window around, they appear to have moved the player controls, mediaview switcher, search box, etc. upwards so that they are not vertically centered, which gives the user a large clickable area below them to drag the window around. Since these controls were moved upward and there was no longer a titlebar, the close/min/max controls had to be made vertical to fit.
 
The icon is different. People don't like different. Different feels bad, it takes people out of their comfort zones. The icon seems bad because it is different. That perspective will change over time.

I'd be quite interested to find out what someone who hadn't seen either icon before would think.
 
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