DMann said:Would Face Time sex fall into this category?
Did you lose complete signal and drop calls with this first cell phone? That's what people are dealing with here. It's not mass hysteria. People are rightfully upset their new iPhone 4 isn't working properly.
Did you lose complete signal and drop calls with this first cell phone? That's what people are dealing with here. It's not mass hysteria. People are rightfully upset their new iPhone 4 isn't working properly.
Are you having issues with your phone? Don't you think you'd be upset if you kept dropping calls with your new $300 phone?
I think we can stop with the signal loss videos for now... I've been able to reproduce the issue with my friends iPhone 4 (no bumper) sitting next to my iPhone 4 (with bumper). It's real, and all the videos out there prove it.
So, assuming we all stipulate there is "some" issue, I think we have to wait for Apple to "fix" anything on their end, or just continue to swap out phones for irate users, or give them free bumpers.
For those that say they can't reproduce the issue, you are lucky, so count your blessings. Either you have a good phone, live in a strong coverage area, or hold your phone using glass-only. Whichever it is, it works for you, so leave well enough alone and pity the poor souls who are having difficulties.
Anyone who tries to point out that other phones do in fact experience this are immediately branded as fanboys. It’s amazing how people are so eager to buy any controversy that involves Apple that they loose all sense of reason or balance.
And some iPhones only lock to that frequency? Come on![]()
Nah, I think this is what mass hysteria looks like:This is what mass hysteria looks like.
Smash the thing or throw it away, then go to any place and buy one for $300. Then it is a $300 phone otherwise, it is a $1000 phone with at least 12 months commitment of paying at least $50 or more each month.
In the UK, if you buy the handset only, it's around $800 (£500). That is the unsubsidised price of your "$300 phone". THEN you can find a decent network that supports micro SIM.
You obviously don't know much about cellular technology.In AT&T's case, some locations are only serviced by the 850 frequency band. Some locations are serviced by only the 1900 frequency band. And some locations are serviced by both. As stated, my theory is that only one of these frequency bands is affected by the hardware flaw. Hence why some users are not affected. And in that test, there are many various reasons why one of the phones locked on to the 1900 band, and the other locked onto the 850 band.
Nah, I think this is what mass hysteria looks like:
"Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance..."
What a crock.
I've got a Samsung Intensity and I can put it up to my ear and cover the entire thing with my hand with no signal loss (I do that sometimes when I'm driving, as I live in a hands-free city.)
My wife's Droid is the same way. I can hold it however I want.
Hey, Apple: Maybe it's your garbage phone + the worst cell phone network in America that's causing this issue. It's weird though... You wouldn't think that something so "revolutionary" would have such issues...
the guy who posted the video just left a comment saying both phones now show the signal loss symptom.
arn
the guy who posted the video just left a comment saying both phones now show the signal loss symptom.
arn
My thoughts: The chances of a software fix are good, but part of me thinks that his response may be just one of his essays on why he's 'right'. Think the 'flash' essay. He'll probably write a long essay about attenuation and how every phone suffers from signal loss and how 'hold it differently' is the right thing to do. Credit or bumpers may be offered, but an apology/recall, is out of the question.
I still stand by this.
There will no doubt be an iOS 4.0.1 update aimed at trying to fix the issue. Whether or not it does, only time will tell. But as for Steve's official response? If he actually does respond, it will probably be an essay like the one explained above. There is likely no chance that Apple will say that the phone suffers from any inherent flaw.
Further backing my theory. Now both of his phones are locked onto the affected frequency band caused by the hardware flaw.
Did you lose complete signal and drop calls with this first cell phone? That's what people are dealing with here. It's not mass hysteria. People are rightfully upset their new iPhone 4 isn't working properly.
And you still haven't! Tell you what... reproduce the results under a cell tower and I will eat my words.
1) I realize that its not right that you should HAVE to do this to get your phone to work, but are you guys really that broke that you can't afford a case?
2) Sure, having to buy one more thing isn't right and Apple really dropped the ball, but if buying a $15-$25 accessory will make your superphone work, then isn't it worth it?
No one seems to want to try real science. (sigh) I must revert to screaming. I apologize in advance.
Find a cell tower. Stand underneath it with your iPhone 4. Make a call, and then reproduce the effect that drops the call.
Smash the thing or throw it away, then go to any place and buy one for $300. Then it is a $300 phone otherwise, it is a $1000 phone with at least 12 months commitment of paying at least $50 or more each month.
In the UK, if you buy the handset only, it's around $800 (£500). That is the unsubsidised price of your "$300 phone". THEN you can find a decent network that supports micro SIM.