Clearly it is mind boggling that people will find it amusing that Apple is having problem with its latest phone.
But also it is clear that you are asleep, contradicting yourself all over.
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Clearly it is mind boggling that people will find it amusing that Apple is having problem with its latest phone.
But also it is clear that you are asleep, contradicting yourself all over.
I didn't say that. It is certainly a major (not minOr) glitch. It is
not a great product if the glitch is not fixed. The glitch may or may not be fixed; we will soon know. I don't know that they have "always" resolved glitches. I will take your word on that.
What other phone drops 22db if you simply touch a single spot (we arent talking about covering the antenna)?
Once again, i dare you to explain why the evidence fails the scientific method. You've given no reason beyond multiple variables, which is no reason at all.
Translation of Apple statement on iPhone antenna reception: The phone works perfectly if you don't hold it!
Clearly you do not have one.
Translation = Envy or pure cockiness.
it's b1tching when it comes to knocking our true love apple isn't it
where are all these fanboy trolls coming from?
Thought people were squeezing their phones too hard until it happened to me today. Was holding phone lightly in left hand to upload a pic taken with phone and lost all 5 bars in 5 seconds. Was unable to upload photo. Switched hands and they immediately came back. Uploaded photo in 3 seconds.
Only, people can hold most cellphones in their hands normally and make & receive calls and transmit data.
If holding the phone naturally causes reception to cease, that is a PROBLEM. Regardless of whether or not other phones experience the same issue; it's still an issue, and apparently, a very severe one with the iPhone 4.
Just because "all" phones experience it, doesn't mean it's okay. Especially when it is uncomfortable or unnatural to workaround it.
If you had to hold the phone in some crazy, outlandish, unorthodox way to get the issue, I believe more people would probably be inclined to agree with you.
But you don't.
You simply have to hold it in a way that A LOT of people are used to and you see reception loss.
People are upset because it is affecting the way they normally interact with the device.
: We want fun!Bashing without a proof of what is really wrong is fun.
Who need your non amusing post?
Um, only if the degree of signal loss is not an important factor. The signal attenuation seen in many other phones, past and present, is minor compared to what I see with my iPhone4. I go from 4 bars to zero withing 30 seconds. Calls drop and pages don't load. When the hand is moved off the iPhone4 danger zone, full signal is restored nearly instantly. To dismiss this as "true of all cell phones" is to embrace denial.
Non issue for me
I just held an iPhone 4 in my hand covering the bottom left corner and I only lost one bar. I kept it there for a while. I don't know what these other people are doing to make the signal disappear or maybe it's only certain phones? For me though the signal issues was a non-issue! Besides I don't hold my phone covering the corner anyway. Who does?
Just use a case... geez!
I just held an iPhone 4 in my hand covering the bottom left corner and I only lost one bar. I kept it there for a while. I don't know what these other people are doing to make the signal disappear or maybe it's only certain phones? For me though the signal issues was a non-issue! Besides I don't hold my phone covering the corner anyway. Who does?
Just use a case... geez!
Wow, I thought that having a pair of scissors in his lips was extreme. I thought that anybody sticking his head between legs was a bit odd. But this guy sticking his own head with the scissors in his lips between hi own legs - that is like magical and revolutionary!
i do not find the situation amusing....... apple has a big problem here....... and millions of iphone4 owners have already spent a lot of money on it
apple should have done more "real world" testing with prototypes (not using non conductive cases or skins), apple's secrecy/paranoia is going to cost them a lot of money and more embarrassment..... they cannot (quickly) re- engineer/manufacture a phone with internal or better protected antennas
i do not think that coating the stainless bands will be a permanent solution for this current design either
Glitch
They have, since Ive been using Apple products.
But I still see it as minor as I really think people are going out of their way to make this happen. Also you can put a case/bumper or if you are like me and dont like cases a strip of the clear shield protector would insulate it as I tried this and had no signal loss. But as I said its not effecting me. Btw thanks for the chat without having to be offensive to each other!
They have, since Ive been using Apple products.
But I still see it as minor as I really think people are going out of their way to make this happen. Also you can put a case/bumper or if you are like me and dont like cases a strip of the clear shield protector would insulate it as I tried this and had no signal loss. But as I said its not effecting me. Btw thanks for the chat without having to be offensive to each other!
chill1n>>> Only, people can hold most cellphones in their hands normally and make & receive calls and transmit data.
If holding the phone naturally causes reception to cease, that is a PROBLEM. Regardless of whether or not other phones experience the same issue; it's still an issue, and apparently, a very severe one with the iPhone 4.
Just because "all" phones experience it, doesn't mean it's okay. Especially when it is uncomfortable or unnatural to workaround it.
If you had to hold the phone in some crazy, outlandish, unorthodox way to get the issue, I believe more people would probably be inclined to agree with you.
But you don't.
You simply have to hold it in a way that A LOT of people are used to and you see reception loss.
People are upset because it is affecting the way they normally interact with the device.
If holding the phone naturally causes reception to cease, that is a PROBLEM. Regardless of whether or not other phones experience the same issue; it's still an issue, and apparently, a very severe one with the iPhone 4.
Just because "all" phones experience it, doesn't mean it's okay. Especially when it is uncomfortable or unnatural to workaround it.
If you had to hold the phone in some crazy, outlandish, unorthodox way to get the issue, I believe more people would probably be inclined to agree with you.
But you don't.
You simply have to hold it in a way that A LOT of people are used to and you see reception loss.
People are upset because it is affecting the way they normally interact with the device.
Yeah well I was dumb..
Got my self an iPhone 4, after years of wanting an iPhone I FINALLy got it.
But, the reception is so deplorable, so useless that it's become an annoying thing to press dismiss on every time it drops the signal and I have to let it know it's ok.
The thing is, that it's a 24 month contract, an expensive phone and although the screen is amazing and so much about this phone is totally sci fi, the facts remain.
It barely holds the signal, no matter WHICH hand you hold it in or where you are. But to make matters worse, the battery lasts about a day with normal usage and by normal I mean no talk time or anything really heavy like watching a movie or listening to music.
So the major pains in my neck stem from horrible reception, despicable battery life and a moron woman at Apple Regent St. London who said I'm holding a square phone wrong. Then when she wanted to give me an alternative or their way of saying this will solve my problems... was to buy the bumper... for £25, that is expensive for a bandaid considering the fact that you are masking the fundamental flaw of this phone...
Also some things, smaller things like Smilies and delivery reports on sms's aren't to be found... dumb I know, but I do sms quiet a bit.
I wish Apple didn't do this... having been an apple user since 1991 I can say I've had my share of faulty machines from Apple, and it's getting old now. I wish they weren't so lame about it.
A bumper? I'm holding it wrong? Yeah that's why I spent so much on a phone that has poor reception and made my self a slave for Vodafone for 24 months.
I've booked a time at the genius bar, we'll see what their so called genius people do. I doubt they'll help, or they just look at you like it's your fault.
Hate this situation.
Got my self an iPhone 4, after years of wanting an iPhone I FINALLy got it.
But, the reception is so deplorable, so useless that it's become an annoying thing to press dismiss on every time it drops the signal and I have to let it know it's ok.
The thing is, that it's a 24 month contract, an expensive phone and although the screen is amazing and so much about this phone is totally sci fi, the facts remain.
It barely holds the signal, no matter WHICH hand you hold it in or where you are. But to make matters worse, the battery lasts about a day with normal usage and by normal I mean no talk time or anything really heavy like watching a movie or listening to music.
So the major pains in my neck stem from horrible reception, despicable battery life and a moron woman at Apple Regent St. London who said I'm holding a square phone wrong. Then when she wanted to give me an alternative or their way of saying this will solve my problems... was to buy the bumper... for £25, that is expensive for a bandaid considering the fact that you are masking the fundamental flaw of this phone...
Also some things, smaller things like Smilies and delivery reports on sms's aren't to be found... dumb I know, but I do sms quiet a bit.
I wish Apple didn't do this... having been an apple user since 1991 I can say I've had my share of faulty machines from Apple, and it's getting old now. I wish they weren't so lame about it.
A bumper? I'm holding it wrong? Yeah that's why I spent so much on a phone that has poor reception and made my self a slave for Vodafone for 24 months.
I've booked a time at the genius bar, we'll see what their so called genius people do. I doubt they'll help, or they just look at you like it's your fault.
Hate this situation.
They have, since Ive been using Apple products.
You're entitled to your opinion, but there are many of us that still have the issue even when the phone is still in a case. I'm not going out of my way to cause the issue. I'm simply trying to use the phone to make calls and surf the web just like I've done for years. I've called Apple Care numerous times and basically told to wait until they have an answer.
: He knows what's going on!? : It is the Internet, stupid. : Bugger, its where ignorance is actually knowledge.
Bashing without a proof of what is really wrong is fun.
Who need your non amusing post?
Oh, now I get how this works .:
Poor analogy. Would work better if the .357 failed to fire when she pulled the trigger.
Be patient, they will and you will be loving your iPhone 4 and all this will be forgotten about!
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This is ridiculous. Ok I'm Curious to know where chill1ns strange notions of logic take him from here.
Let's just say for arguments sake that we are sitting on the tower and get no call droppage. What will be the next experiment that u demand.
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This is ridiculous. Ok I'm Curious to know where chill1ns strange notions of logic take him from here.
Let's just say for arguments sake that we are sitting on the tower and get no call droppage. What will be the next experiment that u demand.
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