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Steve Jobs Had a Liver Transplant Two Months Ago

kas23 said:
Oh my gosh. This is such a shock. I have taken care of many patients who have had liver transplants. According to current transplant guidelines, you have to be as sick as a dog (read: will die within about 1 week without transplant) to receive one. This pretty much means that all those rumors of him "on his death bed" were likely true. This is really the only way to get a liver; its not solely first-come, first-serve.

I hope this puts to rest that Steve will not be doing any Keynotes anymore. Sure, he will be able to live his life, but will likely no longer be able to do anything as strenuous. He very well may come back to Apple though, but I doubt he'll be running the show. The long term affects of the immunosuppressants he will be on for the rest of his life will be very draining. I wish him the best health possible.
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This is an accurate scenario. A doctor friend of mine had a liver transplant. He had been a very active and vibrant guy, even raced 1000hp race cars around the country. He never could regain that level of health and pretty much had to shut it down.

It will be difficult for a large corporation to function with a guy who is not able to work all the time at the helm and in fact will create a "who is in charge" situation on and off for periods of time.

The SEC thing is real and one cannot put personal notions of privacy above the law. It is part of corporate life, a life one chooses. Apple could be spanked.

On a positive note, there was a professional basketball player who had a transplant and played effectively for a couple of years. That is a lot more strenuous than an office job, obviously, so perhaps there is hope for a decent result.
 
sounds about right, that was about the time a friend of mines mom was contacted to do home health care for him because she was one of Christopher Reeves nurses
 
carlgo said:
The SEC thing is real and one cannot put personal notions of privacy above the law. It is part of corporate life, a life one chooses. Apple could be spanked.
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This medical privacy issue came to a head in the Tarasoff case, where medical information is not fully private if it involves safety or another or a very public entity, such as, let's say, a CEO like Steve Jobs. It's a high standard of disclosure that Steve, President Obama, and other high profile people have to endure in their "public" position which either involves the safety of others, or the substantial amounts of money (property/investments) of others.

If the Secretary of the Treasury has a major medical issue, be sure you will hear about it whether you want to or not. Even if it's a very private part, and let's say it's a President with colon issues, it is the legal duty of the press to disclose information. When said President went in to doc for colon related issues, and was under anethesia for some time, the Vice President was commander in chief for that time. It's something the American people had to know. Sure, the stand up comedians had a field day on this one, but disclosure of colon polyps near the anus was something that was clearly outlined in the press. What if the President had inoperable cancer? What if he died in the operation(s)? If a President is not acting in full health, or a CEO of a fairly large company is not in full health, disclosure is the rule of the day.

It's a part of the high profile job Steve took on, and this is the apparently callous part of the press when it comes to his cancer recovery. It sometimes seems that the press and SEC forgets Steve is also a person with a family and friends. I wish Steve could recover without the press hounding him or speculating endlessly, but with the precedent of disclosure, things won't change much unless the Supreme Court overturns precedent setting cases that involve medical disclosure.
 
applecultvictim said:
emaja there's a time a place for everything, perhaps this is not the time and place for you to say this.
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Part of me thinks Steve Jobs would be gagging at the sweet sentiments (we love you steve type stuff). He's a pretty stoic, arrogant, live by his own rules guy. I'm not sure he loves you all back as much as he likes selling you his fantastical toys. (I have family in California who knew him when he was younger, but even if I hadn't heard those stories of him, I think I would still come to the same conclusion. And I'm not saying he's bad, just kind of someone who doesn't give a **** about others, and wouldn't care if others gave a **** about him.)
 
On a lighter side...

Steve just need another upgrade. Now we have Steve Jobs Ver.3.0
upgrade notes:
ver1. original
ver2. removed bad coding in pancreatic system that caused cancer overrun routines.
ver3. upgraded to a better liver.

Steve, Hope you get well soon and stick around for many many more years.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Just because you can what makes you think you should?
 
swingerofbirch said:
Part of me thinks Steve Jobs would be gagging at the sweet sentiments (we love you steve type stuff). He's a pretty stoic, arrogant, live by his own rules guy. I'm not sure he loves you all back as much as he likes selling you his fantastical toys. (I have family in California who knew him when he was younger, but even if I hadn't heard those stories of him, I think I would still come to the same conclusion. And I'm not saying he's bad, just kind of someone who doesn't give a **** about others, and wouldn't care if others gave a **** about him.)
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I live in the area and also know people who know him. Yes, what you say is probably true, but he's still a human being fighting cancer. Cancer does not care if you a nice guy or a battle toughened CEO.
 
armoguy94 said:
Why don't people ever do alternative, natural treatment to cancer? That's never in the mainstream... but it's all natural and works even better, and doesn't damage your body.
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Steve Jobs did this for the first 9 months of his pancreatic tumor diagnosis.
It didn't work-- and the tumor had a 9 month head start before he had the surgery to remove the pancreas.
 
Unique Visuals said:
Steve just need another upgrade. Now we have Steve Jobs Ver.3.0
upgrade notes:
ver1. original
ver2. removed bad coding in pancreatic system that caused cancer overrun routines.
ver3. upgraded to a better liver.
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I was thinking along these lines too. I laughed out loud at the thought that a man who sells closed systems with no user upgrades possible had one heck of an upgrade done on himself.

I really do wish him the best and hope his family is strong along with him. They will all need the support of each other.
 
I feel bad because my first reaction was my Apple stock is screwed come monday... in reality my first concern should be and is that I hope he is doing okay and that he can stay healthy and happy for a long time going forward, not for Apple, not for me, but for he and his family.
 
Oktobernv said:
Doctor says: Liver transplant = 5 yrs to live on ave

Go out fighting Steve!

Sh*t.... :(
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You misread. The story says that at five years post transplant 75% of recipients are still alive - not that that's only how long they live, nor that they're necessarily or even likely on their last legs at that point.

Studies of longer-term survival are less frequently funded and done, so five year survival rates are the general gold standards by which extreme (if now more common) treatments for life-threatening conditions are measured.
 
Dear Steve, I love what you have done for Apple. It will be a very wonderful thing if you decide to devote any more of your precious time to this company in the future.

Otherwise, I hope you'll thrive dedicating your time to family, friends, travel, fast cars - whatever you love. In good health. For many, many, many years to come.

Thanks Steve.
Stay hungry. Stay foolish.
 
marksman said:
I feel bad because my first reaction was my Apple stock is screwed come monday... in reality my first concern should be and is that I hope he is doing okay and that he can stay healthy and happy for a long time going forward, not for Apple, not for me, but for he and his family.
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Apple stock, for years, has been so volatile, that I have never considered buying it. People who have suggested buying Apple stock are the same ones I know here who never thought dot.com would stop it's steady rise, or ones who though there was no real estate bubble.

I support Apple by buying their stuff, but I have never met anyone who has made out well on their stock long term. It makes for a horrid financial investment, but makes a fun company to watch if your money is not involved. Their sheer unpredictability is their strongest and weakest part of that company. No company that I can think of hits as many home runs or strikes out as boldly as Apple. Swing with full force at every pitch and let fate let the chips fall where they may. ;)
 
Oh yah, Steve, a "simple hormone imbalance" is what we were told.

Now it's a freaking liver transplant.

Gee, that's honest.
 
I'm getting sick of all the lies and deceit. Steve is the CEO of a publicly traded company. He has the obligation and the duty to the company, the board, shareholders, and customers to some extent. Regardless of how we/he wants it, that's how it has to be. If Steve wants privacy, he has to step down from his public company.

I'm not being mean, and I wish all the best for Steve. I probably admire him more than any other person in the industry. I want what's best for him, and Apple Computer. I just bought a 15" MBP yesterday and I want to be buying Macs that Steve envisions for years to come.

We all know Steve sets the direction for Apple. I want to have confidence in this company with Steve at the helm. I don't want to wake up one day and find it's been run by some clowns, and they are using Steve as some phantom leader. I want him to continue running the company.

For full disclosure, I own 1 share of Apple stock, which I bought from one of those one-share companies, as I really like the certificate. I collect them. So my words here have nothing to do with any monetary benefit. I just want the company to succeed and I want Steve to recover.

I know I'll probably get some nasty responses, but my words are written with the best of intent and good will towards Steve and his recovery. It's just that no man is bigger than the company and there needs to be transparency in this entire matter.

Bryan
 
Um, I haven't read the thread yet, but has anyone actually...you know... confirmed this? This wouldn't be the first time the WSJ has had a story about Steve having severe medical problems that turned out to be false (anyone remember the "deathbed" stories?).

Also, it's his own private matter when he's on medical leave, thats what its for, he owes no one any information.
 
He probably has a really slow-growing tumor, but it is malignant. So eventually it will probably completely metastasize and become uncontrollable by transforming into something aggressive. I would liken it to stage IV breast cancer like Elizabeth Edwards...it's manageable, but at this stage no longer curable. In very blunt terms, I would guess that he will succumb to this disease, but not for another 10 years. He has a rare tumor that there isn't alot of data about, so his treatments are more experimental by definition. Also, in 10 years who knows, there may be far better treatments by then.
 
NT1440 said:
Also, it's his own private matter when he's on medical leave, thats what its for, he owes no one any information.
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The "medical leave" cover has changed so many times, I can't count how many times we were lied to. Taking a medical leave is one thing, lying about it is another.
 
unagimiyagi said:
Also, in 10 years who knows, there may be far better treatments by then.
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He'll have the best of doctors so I'm sure he'll be afforded every chance to make a full recovery, if not halt/slow down the progression of the disease.
 
Two points. One personal and the other regarding Apple.

1. I wish Steve a speedy and complete recovery.

2. Apple's board of directors should resign and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating their fiduciary obligation to Apple's shareholders for failure to disclose a critical issue regarding the CEO of the company.
 
Man, what a shock that things were this serious. I thought he just needed to take some medicine and let his body recover from stress. Even though he hates publicity, he probably should have been a bit more forthcoming on this, for his shareholders' sake.

I'm really glad that the operation went well, and wish him all the best. Hopefully his transition back to Apple will go well and he will be able to resume full responsibilities eventually.

By the way, it looks like lots of prejudiced people assume that he pushed his way to the top of the donor list. But the waiting list in Tennessee is just 48 days, as someone pointed out earlier in the thread:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7888162&page=1
 
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