Steve Jobs Had a Liver Transplant Two Months Ago

[flopticalcube]

Cancer is a real bitch of a disease both for the patient and the family. You grieve when you get the diagnosis, grieve when they operate, grieve when they're on chemo, grieve when it returns. It takes little bits of you out at a time as you slowly watch them die. After watching my mother go through it I would hope I quietly die in my sleep. All my sympathies to those who have families with loved ones suffering from this disease.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

One can only imagine how destroyed his liver was from treatment.

I hope he gets well. He's a strong guy!

 

[hindmost]

You are aware that people only have one liver?

Donations from living family members are somewhat uncommon.

Wrong lad. You should 'Google' for information if you have not a clue what you are talking about.
quote: Living donation. The special characteristics of the human liver make living donation unique. While each of us has only one liver, it is a large, segmented organ that regenerates, allowing a surgeon to remove a portion yet have both the recipient and donor with complete livers within a matter of a few months. unquote

Like my original post said, if either Steve's daughter or sister gave a little of their own livers, Steve has a very good shot of being OK. Why? Because close relatives have a better chance of being a good match. Often though, total strangers match also. However, if a relative offers.....there is NO line to jump. It's a done deal.

 

[applecultvictim]

Part of me thinks Steve Jobs would be gagging at the sweet sentiments (we love you steve type stuff). He's a pretty stoic, arrogant, live by his own rules guy. I'm not sure he loves you all back as much as he likes selling you his fantastical toys. (I have family in California who knew him when he was younger, but even if I hadn't heard those stories of him, I think I would still come to the same conclusion. And I'm not saying he's bad, just kind of someone who doesn't give a **** about others, and wouldn't care if others gave a **** about him.)

That's possibly true, or even, completely true. But I am more so enamored of what the man stands for than what he is since I don't know him. Plus, if you heard the commencement speech from Steve he was really moved by how the doctors cried for him when they found out about his cancer. No one is immune to support when at their darkest hours.

 

[Romanesq]

hey....

I'm getting sick of all the lies and deceit. Steve is the CEO of a publicly traded company. He has the obligation and the duty to the company, the board, shareholders, and customers to some extent. Regardless of how we/he wants it, that's how it has to be. If Steve wants privacy, he has to step down from his public company.

I'm not being mean, and I wish all the best for Steve. I probably admire him more than any other person in the industry. I want what's best for him, and Apple Computer. I just bought a 15" MBP yesterday and I want to be buying Macs that Steve envisions for years to come.

We all know Steve sets the direction for Apple. I want to have confidence in this company with Steve at the helm. I don't want to wake up one day and find it's been run by some clowns, and they are using Steve as some phantom leader. I want him to continue running the company.

For full disclosure, I own 1 share of Apple stock, which I bought from one of those one-share companies, as I really like the certificate. I collect them. So my words here have nothing to do with any monetary benefit. I just want the company to succeed and I want Steve to recover.

I know I'll probably get some nasty responses, but my words are written with the best of intent and good will towards Steve and his recovery. It's just that no man is bigger than the company and there needs to be transparency in this entire matter.

Bryan

Well we all owned Fannie and Freddie. I've yet to see an indictment let alone anyone get called out for it.

Yeah I had Apple stock too at one point. You know what, tough beans. It's a balancing act between obligations to stockholders and privacy. If there is an imbalance sue.

You know, there wouldn't even be a discussion today about Apple stock if Steve hadn't taken the reigns at Apple again.

What did he take? $1 a year?
And how much did Jamie "the wall" Gorelick suck out of Fannie & Freddie?
(Look it up?)

Okay have a good day bro. In life what is most important is life.

 

[deconstruct60]

He is still CEO. He took a leave of absence and Tim Cook is merely acting CEO. He should have still disclosed this earlier. I am sure the SEC will look into this.

Technically, Jobs should have stepped down from signing off on the financial reports. No way he is legally responsible for the audit (and other responsibilities related to filings) and not going to work. Jobs has relinquished signing authority and responsibilities. He can easily get them back.

That said Jobs and Apple are walking a tight rope where they want walk both sides of the leave (gone, so a transition is already in effect, but still "working" ).
'The Company’s CEO has taken a medical leave of absence until the end of June and has been involved in major strategic decisions during his leave. '
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312509085781/d10q.htm

So on leave, but still consulting. As much as that is normal board member communications, that is fine (he is mostly out of the loop. Which in turn means that folks should stay mostly out of his personal business. ). However, the medical leave as fig leaf so that he could still be a workaholic CEO and just duck reporting. That would be deceptive. However, just how warped do some folks think Jobs is?



You might have something if they knew he needed this transplant 10 months ago and deliberately misled the public with other fake medical problems. However, it is equally plausible that he wasn't correctly diagnosed for the root cause problem until after took leave and/or they gave public (wrong) medical excuses to keep the stock price up.


Someone asked if that was a private plane ( same 10-q)
'The Company entered into a Reimbursement Agreement with its CEO, Steve Jobs, for the reimbursement of expenses incurred by Mr. Jobs in the operation of his private plane when used for Apple business. The Company did not recognize any expenses pursuant to the Reimbursement Agreement during the three months ended March 28, 2009 and recognized a total of $4,000 in expenses pursuant to the Reimbursement Agreement during the six months ended March 28, 2009. The Company recognized a total of $30,000 and $580,000 in expenses pursuant to the Reimbursement Agreement during the three- and six-month periods ended March 29, 2008, respectively.'

So since on medical leave, Jobs is paying for flying around in his plane. (Not being a homebody though http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/24/jobs_jet/) Apple bought him that plane (or the previous edition if replaced it. If he has been flying a lot, it is getting "middle age" at this point.), but it is technically his. The squirmy things that some companies do though is enter into these "Reimbursement" agreements where companies assumes the bulk of the upkeep and operating costs of the plane with junkets that are cast as business trips. This too doesn't seem to be abused in this case so not sure what solid case the SEC could build.

 

[m00ede00]

new product?

Perhaps now we'll see the new 'iLiver'

 

[CapDC]

Get Well Steve

I had a liver transplant myself 18 months ago (cancer related as well). Let's hope Steve's recovery goes as well as mine.

This should serve as a reminder to everyone to become an organ donor.

DONATE LIFE!

 

[Luap]

To everyone thinking about, or that is about to post a reply on this thread.

PLEASE READ IT ALL FIRST.

The amount of reposts and false information given to points that have already been more accurately addressed is ridiculous.

Thanks..

 

[brunt]

I suppose he can now legally park in a handicap space ... sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy to me.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/5057501/more-proof-of-steve-jobss-unique-parking-style

Thats Old School Jobs. Andy Hertzfeld talks about how Jobs liked to Park in the handicapped spot at apple back in the 80s during the days of the original mac project.
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.p...tOrder=Sort by Date&detail=medium&search=jobs

 

[jbernie]

I'd like to know what POS came out with this today on the iPhone release. What an ******. And who is this expert doctor coming out with this "common" for liver cancer after the rare pancreatic form? I hate everyone right now. Including many posting here.

you would like to know? It was Apple Inc. and Steve himself who off record souced this to the WSJ. Steve is coming back to work and could not continue to hide the transplant info so he and Apple strageically released it on 1) the day of a hugely successful product launch so good news would come with bad and 2) on a Friday evening to soften the stock blow after 2 days of thought before investors decide to act on Monday. This story comes straight from Jobs himself, I promise.

I might not agree 100% with how canyonblue stated it, but really it would be no surprise if Apple was the source. There was such a media focus on the iPhone release and all associated to it that the focus was not on Apple corp or Steve Jobs, if they are going to have to make an announcement or have this information reported/leaked, then Friday was the optimal time to have it happen.

I have no doubt that Apple & SJ would not like this information released but the way they have handled the whole situation has been for lack of a better word .. iffy... Apple has pushed SJ as the saviour... the one.. but conversely have tried to hide other issues, they love the worshipping but don't want the higher scrutiny that comes with it.

Why did some people rate this as Negative?
He is getting treatment, that is good and i hope he will be getting better
and wish him the best!

The positive/negative rating can indicate many things, positives could be that he had the op and might now improve, negative could relate to Apple keeping it hush hush or even just concern about stock prices, different people have different interpretations based on their unique interests.

 

[arkitect]

Thats Old School Jobs. Andy Hertzfeld talks about how Jobs liked to Park in the handicapped spot at apple back in the 80s during the days of the original mac project.
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.p...tOrder=Sort by Date&detail=medium&search=jobs

Uh huh… I guess way back in them old days "Old School Jobs" was also driving a 2009 Mercedes SL55?

Face it: the guy is… how shall we say… not so nice.

But heh, he oversees the production of nice phones.
Used to be computers. Nowadays? Not so much.

 

[gnasher729]

Oh my gosh. This is such a shock. I have taken care of many patients who have had liver transplants. According to current transplant guidelines, you have to be as sick as a dog (read: will die within about 1 week without transplant) to receive one. This pretty much means that all those rumors of him "on his death bed" were likely true. This is really the only way to get a liver; its not solely first-come, first-serve.

So explain to me: How does "will die within about 1 week without transplant" go together with average 300 days waiting time in the US / average 48 days in Tennessee? With what you say average time on the waiting list couldn't be more than 7 days, and then it is curtains.

 

[Mebsat]

2. Apple's board of directors should resign and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating their fiduciary obligation to Apple's shareholders for failure to disclose a critical issue regarding the CEO of the company.

Jobs is on a medical leave of absence. He had an operation during that leave of absence.

The directors failed their fiduciary responsibility how?
Do you really know what fiduciary duty is?
Did they pay for his secret liver transplant with company money?

The shareholders cannot harmed by an officer's medical leave. What you are saying doesn't actually make any sense.

Jobs has been coy and annoying regarding his medical problems in the past, and perhaps someone has evidence of disclosure violations in the past.
But once he's on medical leave, there is no argument to be made.

 

[gnasher729]

2. Apple's board of directors should resign and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating their fiduciary obligation to Apple's shareholders for failure to disclose a critical issue regarding the CEO of the company.

Are you on your usual Apple-hating trip again? It seems that Apple's board of directors decided that they have excellent replacements for Steve Jobs, so his illness would have no effect on Apple at all. And how many billions has Apple added to its bank account since Steve Jobs left? I think the directors were exactly right.

Now seriously tell us non-haters what has gone wrong for Apple (looking forward to the list), and in the unlikely case you find anything that isn't just your usual trolling, then you also need to explain why it would have been better with Steve Jobs present.

 

[applesith]

Feel better Steve!

 

[pprior]

1
The shareholders cannot harmed by an officer's medical leave. What you are saying doesn't actually make any sense.

That is an absolute falsehood.

Hypothetical Example:

1)Warren Buffet is diagnosed with terminal brain cancer
2)He is on "medical leave" to have tumor removed, but only for palliation of symptoms
3) Board says "he just had to have a toenail removed, that's all"
4) Shareholders therefore are not allowed to make decisions based on actual facts

Would you still argue your point as stated above?

The reality is that in the past we have seen LARGE swings in apple share price based on SJ health. So the board is well aware of that factor as it relates to share pricing. If they knowingly misled the public with statements like "it's a simple hormone imbalance" when indeed it was known to them that such was not the truth, well then they have completely failed at their fiduciary responsibility as board members (and yes, I'm quite familiar with those responsibilities) and there will be legal consequences eventually I'm quite sure, which further depress shareholder value.

I am an APL shareholder, and have at least on paper made good money, so take that for what it's worth. The issue I have is transparency. It's -MY- money, not the board, and they should allow me to make decisions based on facts, not obfuscation .

 

[Tallest Skil]

2. Apple's board of directors should resign and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating their fiduciary obligation to Apple's shareholders for failure to disclose a critical issue regarding the CEO of the company.

Except they disclosed the critical issue regarding the C.E.O. of the company, meaning that there is nothing with which to prosecute them.

 

[FJ218700]

I am an APL shareholder, and have at least on paper made good money, so take that for what it's worth. The issue I have is transparency. It's -MY- money, not the board, and they should allow me to make decisions based on facts, not obfuscation .

what does holding Atlas Pipeline Partners LP (NYSE) have to do with anything?

 

[scotty96LSC]

Steve rock on. Look forward to you getting back and providing more "outside the box"guidance.

 

[deconstruct60]

I'm getting sick of all the lies and deceit. Steve is the CEO of a publicly traded company.

Your presumption is that they had the diagnosis of uncorrectable bad liver and need for transplant 9-10 months ago. If he was diagnosed incorrectly (either got new doctors who are better and/or same doctors decided to run a broader spectrum of tests ) it could have been false (i.e., they had some other cause or no root cause identified). Not doing proteins wasn't the root cause of the problem, it is more a symptom.

I don't want to wake up one day and find it's been run by some clowns, and they are using Steve as some phantom leader. I want him to continue running the company.

A large company's CEO is a failure if he or she can't step out and the institution can't continue. Folks who keep perpetrating the mythos that Steve Jobs is the only possible person for the position is the rational behind the "have to know everything personal" track. Bull.

If Apple is a company that consists entirely of clowns except for Steve Jobs.... who is primarily responsible for that?? Steve Jobs.

It shouldn't have been a great debate about how much Jobs needed to disclose. It should have been more an issue that he was increasingly obviously in need of going out on medical leave and wasn't doing it. He possibly didn't have enough information to make good decisions. (never mind everyone else. ).

However, in Apple's specific case this is somewhat a monster that Jobs has himself built. The methodology of trying to extract as much "sales pitch juice" as possible out of holding secret information and creating the maximum media bonanza out of it. Can't be Mr. MegaHype and then slink away when it is yet another company associated juicy surprise. If condition the media and public to buzz off of the "latest Apple secret surprise".... this is what you get.

Couple that with the stoking the cult of Steve by being the primary singular face of the company at major media events. All the things that superficially reinforce that this is somehow a "one man" multibillion dollar show. ( "there are two-three folks who work a Apple who are extremely good, but the rest easily replaceable cogs in the machine. )

 

[EricBrian]

If he really did have a liver transplant then for his and Apple's sake, he should retire.

 

[gnasher729]

That is an absolute falsehood.

Hypothetical Example:

1)Warren Buffet is diagnosed with terminal brain cancer
2)He is on "medical leave" to have tumor removed, but only for palliation of symptoms
3) Board says "he just had to have a toenail removed, that's all"
4) Shareholders therefore are not allowed to make decisions based on actual facts

Would you still argue your point as stated above?

The reality is that in the past we have seen LARGE swings in apple share price based on SJ health.

Apple's board is not responsible for the stupidity of investors, they are responsible for the financial well-doing of Apple. If the board decides that they have adequate replacement for Jobs in place, which they apparently had, if we judge by the last months, then they are fine. Just because some stupid investor believes that Apple has no replacement for Jobs, that doesn't make it true.

And as you said yourself, it was the _story_ of Jobs' illness that caused the trouble, not his illness itself.

 

[theheadguy]

If he really did have a liver transplant then for his and Apple's sake, he should retire.

If anything this subject should be retired. good god this is getting old. if people were as concerned for their fellow man as they are for steve jobs the world would be a much, much better place. he's just another person and apple has performed extremely well without him. start cashing those retirement checks and just stay home steve.

 

[GoodWatch]

If anything this subject should be retired. good god this is getting old. if people were as concerned for their fellow man as they are for steve jobs the world would be a much, much better place. he's just another person and apple has performed extremely well without him. start cashing those retirement checks and just stay home steve.

Amen! For too many here SJ is 'The Second Coming'. I respect the man for his savvy but hundreds of thousands battle with cancer everyday, my wife including. And if a company's well-being evolves around just one person something's very wrong